BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped

I would be glad to oblige you if you could present any credible proof that the events as presented were false and that Dorner killed no one. All we're dealing with here is opinion, and so far, I tend to believe what I've witnessed the last few days. So far, apparently, you don't.

Nutmeg ... roasting alive was discontinued, as capitol punishment, when man became civilized.

I wonder if they still have the people listed on CJDs manifesto under watch. Because if he escaped, you know he's still going to go after them so they're going to want to make sure those people are still protected if he did.

wait what??!!!

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THANKS!! I appreciate your time to answer that for me....

He just didn't want to be taken alive, I guess.

Has anyone wondered where mom was while this was happening?

"Gile said she later went to Dorner’s home in La Palma.
About 10 minutes after she arrived there, she saw the woman from the restaurant, who neighbors identified as Dorner’s mother, pull into the driveway and go in the house."
[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/13/2013 02:44 PM

And for every single person that heralded the intentional burning of this person, just how do you feel now about the decision to burn someone that you were so sure was in that cabin?

That even the actors who started the fire could not confirm the identity of the person inside and decided to move forward with their plan should be no less than appalling.

We'll see how much cheering takes place when this happens on your street - hopefully your friends or relatives will not be inside when the decision is made to burn them down and sift through the ashes later to determination of identity.

My point was the guarantees of the Constitution being ignored and the repercussions of shredding the document. I am not arguing the case of Dorner except to point out the obvious and that is to say the man did not get what the Constitution guarantees all of us. You obviously don't care about the rule of law and would be the cheering section for burning people at the stake because someone said they were a witch or warlock. Perhaps you will one day be in a situation without due process of law. Have fun then.

Of course, as usual, his driver's license survived the inferno so there could be a positive ID.

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

On Wednesday, an Associated Press source confirmed that Dorner’s California driver’s license was found inside the burned cabin with the body.

"Tend to believe"

Beyond reasonable doubt


Sure, those sound the same to me.... not

I don't know if it's my eyes, but that looks like it says "confrimed" ...which would mean it is a misspelled photoshop.

The LA cops called this "Operation torch bad guy." They did not want him (Dorner) to say anything that may implicate them for their secrets. They never intended to give him due process.

WHAT?!

Your eyes are correct

LOL! Confrimed! And the person who created the hoax thought they were so smart! Too funny!

Which initially translates to, "Yes I have no proof", which is fine. I don't either. fwiw, I'm on your side in regard the Constitution being abrogated but that's another topic.

I'm not sure the Constitution would guarantee anyone publicly defined as an outlaw, by his actions and by his own word, any sort of right. And, fwiw, there's a substantial amount of difference between public accusations of witchery and fairly well documented murder.

Don't get me wrong. I was on Dorner's side from the beginning. I was born and raised in LA, went through all the BS there, Rodney King, Watts Riots, OJ, etc, and knew some LAPD. He had, imo, a legitimate bitch and it's going to get ignored.

I hope you are never called for any jury duty, because you naively believe everything that you hear from cops and newsmedia.

Anyone find any connection to the dark knight movies yet?

It wasn't clear when a formal identification could be made of the charred remains found in the cabin near Big Bear Lake, about 100 miles east of Los Angeles, after a Tuesday shootout with police. Until then, "a lot of apprehension" remains in the ranks of the LAPD, Lt. Andy Neiman said.

[link to edition.cnn.com]

CNN is saying right now that the Term "Burners" may be a reference on the police audio to flash bang grenades and/or tear gas canisters.

I'm thinking it's more of a matter of too much air between the ears.

BIG BEAR LAKE — Investigators on Wednesday were in the process of identifying remains found in the charred cabin where fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner was believed to have been holed up.

An official told the Associated Press that a wallet and personal items, including a California driver’s license with Dorner’s name, were found with the body in the basement of the cabin.

At a briefing on Wednesday morning, Lt. Andy Neiman said that the LAPD has been back in a normal state of operations since late Wednesday.

He said that the department had not been on tactical alert since early Wednesday.

Neiman also said that “about a dozen or so” protective details of people named in Dorner’s manifesto will remain in place until the department and the families feel safe.

He emphasized that the investigation is not stopping just becasue the suspect is believed to be dead.

“We don’t just stop a murder case simply because we think the suspect in that case is no longer with us,” he said.

Neiman would not comment on the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department’s investigation of the remains.

He also said that the city attorneys involved will determine who, if anyone, gets the reward money, and that any decision on that matter could take some time.

If the body is identified as Dorner’s, the standoff would end a weeklong manhunt for the ex-LAPD officer and Navy reservist suspected in a string of shootings following his firing several years ago.



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I too hear people saying this and if it happened I must have missed the event watching live from a helicam and listening to multiple police scanners....

Interesting. The families are going to remain under protection until they feel safe? Shouldn't they feel safe the second they know CJD is dead? Does anybody have a reason why they wouldn't?

WHAT??????? Have you even READ the Bill of Rights?

Did you miss, specifically, the 4th - 8th amendments? They exist ENTIRELY to rule out punishment or incarceration based on false claims by guaranteeing the accused specific rights. These rights cover every single aspect of any investigatory procedures, as well as procedures through trial and sentencing. Later Amendments also address procedures that must be adhered to during incarceration.

If there were no application guaranteed those who had been, to use your words, "publicly defined as an outlaw...", then you can be accused just as easily of theft, murder, rape, child molestation, etc., demonized through the media, and summarily executed on the spot.

Is that the country you want to live in? Is this belief so rampant throughout our society that it has become the very reason no one will call evil as evil in fear they will no longer have any rights once they're accused of something?

The very fact that such statement(s) can be openly made really shine the light on the rotten roots of many problems within our country. I'm appalled I've even read such in regards to another fellow American citizen.

good lord. this funeral is STILL GOING ON....
ITS BEEN ON TV FOR ABOUT 4 HOURS NOW.
AND THEY STILL ARE NOT DONE.

and now they are going to PARADE THE HEARSE thru the entire city. another few hours of roadblocks, helicopters, armies of armed police "protecting each other" from the boogeyman.
so glad i'm not out in riverside right now.

Why is there no picture of the alleged ID? I am going to have to put my wallet in a charcoal grill one of these days and see if my drivers permit survives.