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Message Subject BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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I would be glad to oblige you if you could present any credible proof that the events as presented were false and that Dorner killed no one. All we're dealing with here is opinion, and so far, I tend to believe what I've witnessed the last few days. So far, apparently, you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


My point was the guarantees of the Constitution being ignored and the repercussions of shredding the document. I am not arguing the case of Dorner except to point out the obvious and that is to say the man did not get what the Constitution guarantees all of us. You obviously don't care about the rule of law and would be the cheering section for burning people at the stake because someone said they were a witch or warlock. Perhaps you will one day be in a situation without due process of law. Have fun then.
 Quoting: Miss Kitty



I'm not sure the Constitution would guarantee anyone publicly defined as an outlaw, by his actions and by his own word, any sort of right. And, fwiw, there's a substantial amount of difference between public accusations of witchery and fairly well documented murder.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


WHAT??????? Have you even READ the Bill of Rights?

Did you miss, specifically, the 4th - 8th amendments? They exist ENTIRELY to rule out punishment or incarceration based on false claims by guaranteeing the accused specific rights. These rights cover every single aspect of any investigatory procedures, as well as procedures through trial and sentencing. Later Amendments also address procedures that must be adhered to during incarceration.

If there were no application guaranteed those who had been, to use your words, "publicly defined as an outlaw...", then you can be accused just as easily of theft, murder, rape, child molestation, etc., demonized through the media, and summarily executed on the spot.

Is that the country you want to live in? Is this belief so rampant throughout our society that it has become the very reason no one will call evil as evil in fear they will no longer have any rights once they're accused of something?

The very fact that such statement(s) can be openly made really shine the light on the rotten roots of many problems within our country. I'm appalled I've even read such in regards to another fellow American citizen.
 Quoting: ClydeX


so you'd rather have 5 more cops give their life to drag him out alive? why would he be stocked up with all that ammo and still trying to shoot cops if he was innocent? wouldnt he at least attempt to say hey i didnt really kill all those cops i said i was going to kill before i killed them? police officers are armed for a reason.
 
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