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Iron. User ID: 34114997 United States 02/12/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me it would be situational...if they could pull their weight and contribute yes, but if they are dead weight I am not going to baby. 'Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views" - William F Buckley Jr |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me it would be situational...if they could pull their weight and contribute yes, but if they are dead weight I am not going to baby. Quoting: Iron. forgot to add... Blank result = FUCK THEM....they are on thier own!!!! “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Iron. User ID: 34114997 United States 02/12/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can only do this at the very start. after that you cant trust it anymore. like seriously you just shouldnt do it unless you truely know them or you feel as if they wouldnt be able to become a problem. Quoting: T-Man choose wisely! Yeah obviously it is going to be no more often than yes but i saying there are situations. 'Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views" - William F Buckley Jr |
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Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if I was to answer, this would be it. The signs are everywhere, and those that refuse to see them do so so they can continue to live in ignorance. Why help them later if they laugh at you now? could not have said it better myslelf AC!!!! “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if I was to answer, this would be it. The signs are everywhere, and those that refuse to see them do so so they can continue to live in ignorance. Why help them later if they laugh at you now? could not have said it better myslelf AC!!!! sorry Psyco 7..... “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts EXACTLY!!!!!! “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 02/12/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, you will need others to spread out the security watch, and also to haul/chop wood/ water/animals etc. Your comfort and chances of survival increase as you add the RIGHT people.. They could have needed skills or not as there will be plenty of unskilled labor to be performed around camp. I would also include their close family (wives, children, grandparents) as it would boost espre de corps and give them much more more skin in the game for protecting and improving the camp. And as a last resort, to enforce loyalty, people are not going to fuck around when their loved ones would be exposed. If you save just yourself.. whats the point??? Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 02/12/2013 04:35 PM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States 02/12/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, you will need others to spread out the security watch, and also to haul/chop wood/ water/animals etc. Your comfort and chances of survival increase as you add the RIGHT people.. They could have needed skills or not as there will be plenty of unskilled labor to be performed around camp. I would also include their close family (wives, children, grandparents) as it would boost espre de corps and give them much more more skin in the game for protecting and improving the camp. If you save just yourself.. whats the point??? Absolutely agree EV Historically, it is the tribe-sized group(s) that survive and are prosperous. It is essential that there is help when needed, and support when necessary. Our position is: "What tangible good or usable skill sets do you bring to the table?" While bringing both would be great, there must be at least one or the other. That being said; just because you're a doctor bringing useful medical skill sets, that doesn't mean you sit around on your backside until someone needs a band-aid. EVERYONE must contribute on a daily scale in order to prosperity begin to take root. Last Edited by ClydeX on 02/12/2013 04:47 PM Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, you will need others to spread out the security watch, and also to haul/chop wood/ water/animals etc. Your comfort and chances of survival increase as you add the RIGHT people.. They could have needed skills or not as there will be plenty of unskilled labor to be performed around camp. I would also include their close family (wives, children, grandparents) as it would boost espre de corps and give them much more more skin in the game for protecting and improving the camp. If you save just yourself.. whats the point??? Absolutely agree EV Historically, it is the tribe-sized group(s) that survive and are prosperous. It is essential that there is help when needed, and support when necessary. Our position is: "What tangible good or usable skill sets do you bring to the table?" While bringing both, there must be at least one or the other. That being said; just because you're a doctor bringing useful medical skill sets, that doesn't mean you sit around on your backside until someone needs a band-aid. EVERYONE must contribute on a daily scale in order to prosperity begin to take root. good words Clydex “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 33343893 United States 02/12/2013 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no. my community is very tight knit. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States 02/12/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, you will need others to spread out the security watch, and also to haul/chop wood/ water/animals etc. Your comfort and chances of survival increase as you add the RIGHT people.. They could have needed skills or not as there will be plenty of unskilled labor to be performed around camp. I would also include their close family (wives, children, grandparents) as it would boost espre de corps and give them much more more skin in the game for protecting and improving the camp. If you save just yourself.. whats the point??? Absolutely agree EV Historically, it is the tribe-sized group(s) that survive and are prosperous. It is essential that there is help when needed, and support when necessary. Our position is: "What tangible good or usable skill sets do you bring to the table?" While bringing both, there must be at least one or the other. That being said; just because you're a doctor bringing useful medical skill sets, that doesn't mean you sit around on your backside until someone needs a band-aid. EVERYONE must contribute on a daily scale in order to prosperity begin to take root. good words Clydex Thanks, I also meant "while bringing both would be great..." when referring to skill sets and tangible goods, and have corrected my error in my original post Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like "Fuck no...they are on thier own is in the lead" Not surprising... Unless you have A LOT to add....I would tell you to take a long hike alone. If you did not comply.... PoP....PoP “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 02/12/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stock for my neighbors, all of them, figure 30+ people & food for a month for each, not counting my personal stash. I can’t hold the neighborhood alone after all. I also talk to every one of my neighbors every quarter at least if not more, see how they are and their mentality. You don’t want to find out someone flipped their lid and it is a surprise if something bad happens. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Relativity (OP) User ID: 1533848 United States 02/12/2013 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stock for my neighbors, all of them, figure 30+ people & food for a month for each, not counting my personal stash. I can’t hold the neighborhood alone after all. Quoting: Chrit I also talk to every one of my neighbors every quarter at least if not more, see how they are and their mentality. You don’t want to find out someone flipped their lid and it is a surprise if something bad happens. unless they were in from the start....I would have to turn them away. Just the way it is.... “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 02/12/2013 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I stock for my neighbors, all of them, figure 30+ people & food for a month for each, not counting my personal stash. I can’t hold the neighborhood alone after all. Quoting: Chrit I also talk to every one of my neighbors every quarter at least if not more, see how they are and their mentality. You don’t want to find out someone flipped their lid and it is a surprise if something bad happens. unless they were in from the start....I would have to turn them away. Just the way it is.... Well yes, but I expect grown up sons to return home along with their kids to the parents homes. No one is getting in my house either way though, kinda why I make sure I can stock them where they sit currently. The last thing I can afford is empty houses next to me in a SHTF situation. People migrating? Not through our area and that is why I would need help... I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
phoenixe User ID: 33933790 Germany 02/12/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just family will be allowed.. i can´t safe everyone ;) all others: well, had time enough to take care for themselves..and maybe those others are lucky and have a family member who preps for them as well,too. not that far out of thought, maybe? |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 02/12/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, absolutely, I have a huge stockpile of stuff. I plan on putting as many people to work in my compound as possible. In a really free society you have no right to tell me I cant own indentured servants to work my crops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25276568 Just make sure its mutually profitable.. otherwise your "slaves" will eventually revolt and kill their new master. For myself, I would plan something close to "Jericho" with able bodied men being auto-enlisted in the ranger patrol, women and children at home working the ground. Sorry no women on ranger patrol, to much risk of kidnap and rape, sorry I don't want that fate for our women.. I would however be sure that EVERY member be trained in basic security and issued weapons as we capture them from the attacking forces. Daily work would be focused on food production, water sourcing and security. Later as we gathered enough trustworthy survivors and equipment; I would begin to expand to other locations in the area, rendering whatever aid we could to the locals, establishing lines of communication and trade and eliminating despots, thugs, crime lords and other assorted dipshits that make life unbearable for the locals along the way as we encounter them. Build respect and genuine goodwill (through direct action, not promises) among the surrounding population and you will expand your sphere of influence and intelligence network rapidly. Also of note: This would not be a democracy, I would take command until someone else comes along who can demonstrably do a better job, then they have command; I will keep a watchful eye and frag them the moment they turn away from whats best for the group... I reserve that unspoken right. Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 02/12/2013 05:17 PM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
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Thee Bob User ID: 28707337 Canada 02/12/2013 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DATA MINE In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act - George Orwell Rachel Maddow is HOT!!! - Seriously I'd hit it. A VOTE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015, WOULD BE THE MOST COWARDLY & IRRESPONSIBLE THING A CANADIAN CITIZEN COULD DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. GUN GRABBERS ARE THE COMMON ENEMY OF ALL PEOPLE. GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS. THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY. CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED. C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS. I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE. |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 28995425 United States 02/12/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed, but this is all purely hypothetical. Its not like this discussion is has not been taking place at lodges, gun clubs, police stations, fire departments, town halls, offices, other forums and coffee shops all over this nation right now as we speak. ... and it needs to be discussed now, regardless of consequence. "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
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