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Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?

 
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Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
I posted this in response to another person's questions, but I think it got lost and I think it is important enough to repeat. Unless someone has already posted this, but I don't remember reading it.
Just had a thought about Adam Lanza pounding on a door saying "let me in". Perhaps Adam Lanza did not have any weapons at all. Maybe he was trying to get help from someone at the school. Perhaps he was one of the people in the black car parked out front with all the doors open and was forced into the school with whoever was with him. They did the shooting, including shooting him at some point. That would explain why the school nurse said she saw the shooter and his mother was a kindergarten teacher there - it wasn't Adam that she saw!
And to add to that idea, they could have shot his mother, smashed his computer and kidnapped him and made him go to the school with them. There had to be more than just him there. Why were all the doors on the car open when the one Mom arrived at the door? Who was the other lady that was at the door with her looking in trying to figure out what was going on?
Stupid gag order. So it will be the end of March before we hear any kind of report, true or fabricated right?
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
Ever get the distinct feeling you are swimming in a swamp of slimy absurdities?

If the witness statement is changed from yelling to pleading,"Let me in" then the presumed gunman becomes a victim... but then again Adam did not follow any rational course of action... he never said why they all had to die... so not only was he a gutless coward, he was also one hell-of-a mean, evil man... to murder so many defenseless innocents requires a fortitude most uncommon, but this rail-thin nobody... who had never laid an eye, on any of those he was about to kill, in cold blood, just shut down his pea-sized conscience, lowered his weapon and killed them like he was some kind of demon on steroids.


Was he not bothered by the brutality unleashed? NO... not this guy he was pure glacier-ice blowing away kids with a weapon so powerful that it was over-kill to the extreme. Logically Adam 'the deranged-out-of-his-F'n-mind' Lanza was well placed to take a hostage or two and kill responding cops as well. He was already over the hill into hell's kitchen, so why just off himself like some kind of yellow-bellied pussy?

IN the swamp of absurdities nothing is at it appears...


The confrontational aspects of this horror story are all wrong. Nobody actually knows what Adam did in his spare time. To manifest this level of evil upon others requires escalation... this too is a gap which is filled in by the "Stories" floated by various anonymous authorities to ensure the perception that the mad man is indeed mad and capable of such a heinous atrocity... nobody can actually prove they knew his state of mind by direct witnessed accounts... he never drove around town or went to the bank? Or the store? Or half a dozen other routines which would have allowed people in this town to personally testify they knew him in some way? Just how long was he planning this trip down the road to ever-lasting damnation?

To just waltz into a school and slaughter other human beings requires a grudge... a long standing hatred boiling away until boom the last straw beaks and sets off the murderous rage... cold-blooded killers usually get paid to blow away rivals or targets. Detachment allows distance from the emotional triggers which naturally arise when one is faced with the repercussions. So this ghost of a man without pause or grievance made these kids and teachers pay with their lives for doing what? What could they have possible done to Adam Lanza to justify in his own mind such retribution? Did he hate the entire town?

Nobody just wakes up one morning and decides to blow away their mom and head over to a school and kill because the world sucks ass... and 1st graders need to die... even the random function here fails to explain the targets... He had to kill all of these kids to prove to the world he was one bad-ass, evil MF and now nobody well ever forget his name... ever again. If he didn't care about shooting some kids why was he not already killing people? Has he been killing people all over the country for the past three years? The motivations here are plausible for such behaviors but once again not one damn bit of evidence to actually give substance to the main proposition that Adman Lanza was already a cold-blooded killer. So how did he become one?


Why is Adam Lanza's human nature so different from the norm it defies explanation? Why was he so abnormally skinny? Is there a drug use here that made him never eat or sleep? Was he an "experiment" which was accidentally set loose? What really killed this guys heart? Whatever turned Adam into a heartless monster was not a damn gun... or game or any other form of mindless entertainment. A heartless man without a conscience sounds just like a zombie... without the flesh eating. Psychotropic drugs plus no sleep equals mindless lunatic. That might have been a successful explanation... if the rest of the story wasn't just as bonkers as Adam himself.

Que the Twilight Zone music... meet the inhabitants of this small idyllic little town of Sandy Hook... who are about to learn the face of evil is one of their own...
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Think about what you just said..........a man with 2 handguns, an AR-15, and hundreds of rounds knocks on a door and says let me in???? Why not just shoot your way in?

I was also thinking about another thing.......the police said it is fortunate Newtown cops got there fast enough to prevent him from shooting many many more. That makes no sense at all. Police were there in about 3 minutes but did not enter the school until 9:45. Why did he not keep shooting open doors and kill as many as possible until he was out of ammo?
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
It didn't make sense to me that he would kill himself after doing this - there were no witnesses to him killing himself. If that was Adam Lanza knocking on a door and saying "let me in", he did not have guns then. He supposedly just shot his way through the front doors of the school, I'm pretty sure he can shoot a doorknob out - even on the doors that were locked so that also makes no sense either.
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
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Anybody know whose door it was that Adam Lanza supposedly knocked on and asked to be let in? Was it heard over the school PA system?
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
He wasn't alone. He was the patsy, brought to that location to take the fall. That's why his brother's ID was on him (planted on the scene), and that's why his mother was killed and computer destroyed. And this is why everyone had to be killed. Not shot, but killed. This explains why everyone had at least 4 bullet wounds and up to 11 in them. They were systematically executed to prevent any witnesses from explaining that there were multiple shooters.
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You mean maybe some people were chasing Adam with guns and Adam ran into the school for help, the gun men followed him in and that's how the tragedy happened, also maybe he was running from them, the bad guys maybe came to Adams house threatening the mom asking for something about the computer, then Adam ran away .
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
You mean maybe some people were chasing Adam with guns and Adam ran into the school for help, the gun men followed him in and that's how the tragedy happened, also maybe he was running from them, the bad guys maybe came to Adams house threatening the mom asking for something about the computer, then Adam ran away .
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If you're asking me...

He didn't realize what was happening until the shots were fired. The reasons for him going with those individuals to the school were on the hard drive of his computer, conveniently destroyed.

My guess is that Adam was in contact with "people" regarding god knows what for probably up to a year. He may have thought they were online friends, or gamers, or whatever.
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How do we know "Adam Lanza" was in the school on 12/14/12? They claimed to have a body, but how was that body identified? DNA? Dental records? Surveillance video? No relatives were present to make an identification.
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
I posted this in response to another person's questions, but I think it got lost and I think it is important enough to repeat. Unless someone has already posted this, but I don't remember reading it.
Just had a thought about Adam Lanza pounding on a door saying "let me in". Perhaps Adam Lanza did not have any weapons at all. Maybe he was trying to get help from someone at the school. Perhaps he was one of the people in the black car parked out front with all the doors open and was forced into the school with whoever was with him. They did the shooting, including shooting him at some point. That would explain why the school nurse said she saw the shooter and his mother was a kindergarten teacher there - it wasn't Adam that she saw!
And to add to that idea, they could have shot his mother, smashed his computer and kidnapped him and made him go to the school with them. There had to be more than just him there. Why were all the doors on the car open when the one Mom arrived at the door? Who was the other lady that was at the door with her looking in trying to figure out what was going on?
Stupid gag order. So it will be the end of March before we hear any kind of report, true or fabricated right?
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still trying to figure out who shot Kennedy..... good luck
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
How do we know "Adam Lanza" was in the school on 12/14/12? They claimed to have a body, but how was that body identified? DNA? Dental records? Surveillance video? No relatives were present to make an identification.
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His father claimed his body didn't he? Was there an obituary written about him anywhere - where was he buried or most likely cremated?
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
Why would he bang on a door and say "let me in" when he supposedly just shot through the front door? Wouldn't he just shoot the door open like the front one?
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That is REALLY interesting. The teacher whose door he was banging on was Maryrose Kristopik, the music teacher. Some accounts say he was banging on her classroom door, some say banging on the closet door where she and her students were hiding.

Interestingly, I recall reading an article where they described him as "begging" to be let in. You may really be on to something.

PBS is running a show called "Raising Adam Lanza" next Tuesday. I don't have TV so I can't watch it. I would be interested to see what they say...especially since they said it was very difficult to get anyone to talk about him/his mother.
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That is REALLY interesting. The teacher whose door he was banging on was Maryrose Kristopik, the music teacher. Some accounts say he was banging on her classroom door, some say banging on the closet door where she and her students were hiding.

Interestingly, I recall reading an article where they described him as "begging" to be let in. You may really be on to something.

PBS is running a show called "Raising Adam Lanza" next Tuesday. I don't have TV so I can't watch it. I would be interested to see what they say...especially since they said it was very difficult to get anyone to talk about him/his mother.
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and it's maybe not Adam who have say this.
Cops, the custodian running through the hallway...
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Re: Sandy Hook - Whose door was Adam Lanza knocking on?
He wasn't alone. He was the patsy, brought to that location to take the fall. That's why his brother's ID was on him (planted on the scene), and that's why his mother was killed and computer destroyed. And this is why everyone had to be killed. Not shot, but killed. This explains why everyone had at least 4 bullet wounds and up to 11 in them. They were systematically executed to prevent any witnesses from explaining that there were multiple shooters.
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Yup. And also, what ever happened to the scott vollmer angle??

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