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Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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they'll have to raise prices which means I'll buy less stuff. As it is I almost always wait for a sale.

I did buy 4 boxes of CCI Mini Mags today at $8.99 a box. That's a good price in todays market.
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Exactly, you will sacrifice your lifestyle and learn to live with less so the politicians and banks can have more.

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02/13/2013 12:25 AM
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they'll have to raise prices which means I'll buy less stuff. As it is I almost always wait for a sale.

I did buy 4 boxes of CCI Mini Mags today at $8.99 a box. That's a good price in todays market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Exactly, you will sacrifice your lifestyle and learn to live with less so the politicians and banks can have more.

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This has been the trend lately. For quite some time now.
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02/13/2013 12:26 AM
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Paying property taxes after your kids are grown supported schools. Smarter children, less crime, higher property taxes.

Paying living wages after your summer house is paid for....

Eat The Rich, and Unpatriotic.

have to say it again.

EAT THE RICH.

siren2
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they'll have to raise prices which means I'll buy less stuff. As it is I almost always wait for a sale.

I did buy 4 boxes of CCI Mini Mags today at $8.99 a box. That's a good price in todays market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Exactly, you will sacrifice your lifestyle and learn to live with less so the politicians and banks can have more.

.
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so far I've dumped my cell phone contract and cable tv. that's a start....
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02/13/2013 12:28 AM
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Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
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Apparently you never made it to ECON 102!

It's called, COST PUSH INFLATION!

Dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34136939


Yes that is a factor. But it's not necessarily going to happen.

So if the franchise owner is making 20% profit what's it going to change if they only make a 19% profit? Answer is nothing.

So I only have to pay 1% more for my burger for the worker there to make 15% more income.

Call it a deal I'm all for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


You think the restaurant owner is going to sacrifice his profit margin to give his employees a mandatory raise?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Not going to happen. The cost of your purchase will rise, hence cost push inflation.
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02/13/2013 12:28 AM
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If this is true this is just miserable. If my company has to raise wages (at the same time vendors are tightening their prices, then bad things happen. This will squeeze any opportunity in emerging markets.

Basically this will lead to more exporting of jobs.

Eventually I assume that minimum wage laws will be repealed entirely and people will work for $2 an hour.
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02/13/2013 12:29 AM
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they'll have to raise prices which means I'll buy less stuff. As it is I almost always wait for a sale.

I did buy 4 boxes of CCI Mini Mags today at $8.99 a box. That's a good price in todays market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Exactly, you will sacrifice your lifestyle and learn to live with less so the politicians and banks can have more.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


so far I've dumped my cell phone contract and cable tv. that's a start....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


Here's a start. Pull all your money out of the banks, if you have any put it in a credit union. If you use a credit card pay the monthly balance off. Buy only essential items. Starve the beast.

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02/13/2013 12:29 AM
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I live in Hamilton and mnnimum wage became 10.25 two years ago
Last year Hamilton issued 1.5 billion in building permits
Raise of houses value I creased 7%

The cusp of a boom
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02/13/2013 12:30 AM
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You have to share the wealth to have successful economy people!!!!

If not then you have a greater gap between economic classes.

Extremely wealthy and high poverty w/ very little middle class. And that can be broken down into smaller communites as well as a larger scale.

They taught this concept in grade school for crying out loud. Do you remember?

To share your toys with your friends? You can't expect to have to many friends if you don't wish to share your toys.

Or do you really even care about the economy...? Be honest now.
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Yeah, the economy was sooooooooo great back when Russia "shared the wealth" huh? There were bread lines, people were poor, starving, etc.
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02/13/2013 12:30 AM
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So what if prices go up 24% on bread or whatever else. Do you buy bread every hour? I don't.
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02/13/2013 12:30 AM
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Humans that care about other Humans are for raising the min wage.


there are families barely making it right now, borderline homeless.
 Quoting: Sundara


It wasn't "livable" at $1.25. It is not "livable" at $7.25. It will not be "livable" at $1,000,000.

Your claim to superior morality is absurd.

Are you opposed to raising it to $1,000,000 an hour? Why? Everyone could retire. Even the most unskilled moron could buy the greatest health care in the world as long as he worked at McDonald's for an hour.

To be against that means that you are evil.
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12 an hour, relax...
i love you:)
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02/13/2013 12:31 AM
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Employers have no problems working people harder for less. Just means more money at the end of the day for them and their investors.

Business owners are not producers. It's the laborers who actually produce. They are actually the consumers. But in a more decietful way.

In order to make a profit, you have to sell for more than you have invested. Even if the person is willing to pay more it still is not "morally" right. It is decietful.
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If this is true this is just miserable. If my company has to raise wages (at the same time vendors are tightening their prices, then bad things happen. This will squeeze any opportunity in emerging markets.

Basically this will lead to more exporting of jobs.

Eventually I assume that minimum wage laws will be repealed entirely and people will work for $2 an hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34292281


Eventually they will destroy the dollar and $1,000,000 won't buy a gallon of gasoline. Then the real reset comes and then you'll be lucky if you earn a dime a day, real silver dime as FRN's won't even exist.

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02/13/2013 12:33 AM
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Paying property taxes after your kids are grown supported schools. Smarter children, less crime, higher property taxes.

Paying living wages after your summer house is paid for....

Eat The Rich, and Unpatriotic.

have to say it again.

EAT THE RICH.

siren2
 Quoting: Kybeam 27604421



the rich need to clam down and learn to share,



how did they get rich in the first place...


let me guess..


lol



it's all about fairness, equallity, love, joy, truth, compassion and righteousness.

:)
i love you:)
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02/13/2013 12:34 AM
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Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc.

An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on.

I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average.
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you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground..

 Quoting: Sundara


This has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with MATH. That is your fundamental flaw. You have no logic. Only emotion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34146475


emotions=spirit, yes i have emotions..

i'm working a min wage job to support my wife and two children, yes this is important.

do you care?
 Quoting: Sundara


So get a pot. Put your emotions in that pot. Heat it up to 210 degrees for about 10 minutes. Then serve it up to your family and have a feast of emotions.

Because that will get you about the same as raising the minimum wage will. In a year you'll be wondering why things are about the same or worse for you.

There is a surplus of unskilled labor. That surplus is likely to stay the same or get worse. You are trying to sell ice in the arctic. Guess what...people don't need much of it. And guess what...if you arbitrarily jack the price up because you aren't making enough....it won't make them buy more of it. It will make them buy less.
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I agree that it doesn't help businesses grow but you are the reason that government is always trying to step-in. Be a responsible business owner and pay your employees a decent wage OP. People can't have a decent life off of even $9.00 and you know it. And businesses that don't offer full time employees health care really shouldn't be in business. What does it say about you as a person; if you don't want to treat the people who bring in most of the money for you? I'm not accusing you per se but many business owners seem to be this way. A $1, $2, $3, $4 an hour raise for employees is not going to bankrupt a profitable business.

I'm sure you work hard. I'm sure you think you deserve whatever you take as your income. But how much money are you sucking out of the business for your own pockets? Too much? I don't think we need to legislate this behavior. Most people are pretty damn greedy and seem to have a lack of morals. That is why in the 1950's, the husband could earn enough money to support a family with the wife at home. Now, husband and wife have to work to have the same size house. It is because there is no sense of duty or responsibility to the community.
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Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc.

An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on.

I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


so don't buy stuff...


you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground..


so your theory is to keep a poor class?


lol


you shills lose this game,


just throw in the towel already so we can evolve...

please
 Quoting: Sundara


So don't buy stuff, you say?

Well what happens then?

The business that was forced to raise prices to cover the rise in minimum wage is no longer in business because people stopped "buying stuff" and then we are worse off. Even more unemployed, etc.

$7.25 and hour is better than $0.00 and hour and our economy and the PEOPLE can't afford a raise in this. When things start costing even more money and people stop buying, then businesses close down and those $7.25 and hour workers are now $0.00 and hour workers.

Geez, no wonder we are in the shape we are in. People can't comprehend simple economics. Did they stop teaching economics in high school or something?
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02/13/2013 12:35 AM
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Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


Apparently you never made it to ECON 102!

It's called, COST PUSH INFLATION!

Dipshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34136939


Yes that is a factor. But it's not necessarily going to happen.

So if the franchise owner is making 20% profit what's it going to change if they only make a 19% profit? Answer is nothing.

So I only have to pay 1% more for my burger for the worker there to make 15% more income.

Call it a deal I'm all for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


You think the restaurant owner is going to sacrifice his profit margin to give his employees a mandatory raise?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Not going to happen. The cost of your purchase will rise, hence cost push inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34136939


lol, oh freakin well...


his loss either way around it:)


LOLOLOLOL



rich folk are crying because us poor people want some money
i love you:)
Sundara

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Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc.

An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on.

I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


so don't buy stuff...


you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground..


so your theory is to keep a poor class?


lol


you shills lose this game,


just throw in the towel already so we can evolve...

please
 Quoting: Sundara


So don't buy stuff, you say?

Well what happens then?

The business that was forced to raise prices to cover the rise in minimum wage is no longer in business because people stopped "buying stuff" and then we are worse off. Even more unemployed, etc.

$7.25 and hour is better than $0.00 and hour and our economy and the PEOPLE can't afford a raise in this. When things start costing even more money and people stop buying, then businesses close down and those $7.25 and hour workers are now $0.00 and hour workers.

Geez, no wonder we are in the shape we are in. People can't comprehend simple economics. Did they stop teaching economics in high school or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487




LOL

ok, lets pay people $5 an hour...

happy now?

do you know how much rent is?

lets say rent is 700, add you utilities, food and gas...

you can't afford a family with that on min mage...


now what?
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02/13/2013 12:37 AM
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You have to share the wealth to have successful economy people!!!!

If not then you have a greater gap between economic classes.

Extremely wealthy and high poverty w/ very little middle class. And that can be broken down into smaller communites as well as a larger scale.

They taught this concept in grade school for crying out loud. Do you remember?

To share your toys with your friends? You can't expect to have to many friends if you don't wish to share your toys.

Or do you really even care about the economy...? Be honest now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33237816


Yeah, the economy was sooooooooo great back when Russia "shared the wealth" huh? There were bread lines, people were poor, starving, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


No, that is not what I'm referring to. I am not talking about more gov or a dictatorship. I'm talking about human decency, dignity and integrity. On a personal level.
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02/13/2013 12:37 AM
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It's called pandering.

The cheerleading idiots have no idea that forcing employers costs up w/ min wage and obamacare makes LESS jobs in a stagnate and declining economy.

This rhetoric is only for the stupid people and the MSM.
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this went through their minds the moment Obama said "minimum wage raised". not that....uhh, thinking crap you just said there.......I like money.
What if ?

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In 1968 minimum wage was $1.67 per hour,which translates to $10.27 per hour in 2011 dollars

We are behind the curve by $3-$3.5 dollars

"End of discussion theres nothing to complain about"
Dont worry about inflation
Dont worry about Mcdonald,Wendys Walmarts profit margins
Dont worry if your hours get cut
Dont worry about about anything

We are behing the curve by $3+ dollars
Minimum wage earner were do for a raise 5 years ago

Only a Rich Nazi fuck would be complaining about this
They say cream rises to the top
Sometimes shit floats to the top as well
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So what if prices go up 24% on bread or whatever else. Do you buy bread every hour? I don't.
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Prices go up on EVERYTHING. He didn't say raise the minimum wage for bread factory workers only.
Sundara

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In 1968 minimum wage was $1.67 per hour,which translates to $10.27 per hour in 2011 dollars

We are behind the curve by $3-$3.5 dollars

"End of discussion theres nothing to complain about"
Dont worry about inflation
Dont worry about Mcdonald,Wendys Walmarts profit margins
Dont worry if your hours get cut
Dont worry about about anything

We are behing the curve by $3+ dollars
Minimum wage earner were do for a raise 5 years ago

Only a Rich Nazi fuck would be complaining about this
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exactly.
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All of you complaining about this, how would you like to work for $9 and hour? You can't hire an illegal Mexican for $9 an hour, their getting $150 a day now and don't pay taxes. Fuck off, everyone needs a raise.

I need a raise and I make, well, a lot and I'm not killing myself, just trouble shooting shit and playing with big toys and usually enjoy it while flirting with chicks or surphing glp during slow times (witch is most of the time).

Theirs people out there working their asses off for slave drivers who make big bucks on their work and some of you would deny them half of poverty level earnings?

I say make it $20, GLOBALLY.

Right to work? Only idiots bought into protesting for the right to work for less. Go back to school or learn a better trade or move to a better area.

Frater

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Humans that care about other Humans are for raising the min wage.


there are families barely making it right now, borderline homeless.
 Quoting: Sundara


It wasn't "livable" at $1.25. It is not "livable" at $7.25. It will not be "livable" at $1,000,000.

Your claim to superior morality is absurd.

Are you opposed to raising it to $1,000,000 an hour? Why? Everyone could retire. Even the most unskilled moron could buy the greatest health care in the world as long as he worked at McDonald's for an hour.

To be against that means that you are evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34146475


12 an hour, relax...
 Quoting: Sundara


lol..sure why not. It makes no difference to me if you raise it to $12 or a $1,000,000 because its all the same. If you raise it to $12 then my salary inflates the same and the prices inflate to match and it's all the same.

Then we can come back in a couple of years and I can explain it to you once again.

Lower the supply of unskilled labor or raise the demand for unskilled labor.
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02/13/2013 12:42 AM
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I'm sure you work hard. I'm sure you think you deserve whatever you take as your income. But how much money are you sucking out of the business for your own pockets? Too much? I don't think we need to legislate this behavior. Most people are pretty damn greedy and seem to have a lack of morals. That is why in the 1950's, the husband could earn enough money to support a family with the wife at home. Now, husband and wife have to work to have the same size house. It is because there is no sense of duty or responsibility to the community.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11574345


In the 1950's your average person had a debt to annual salary ratio of about 50%. Now that ratio is about 90%. The reason is because they offshored most of our product jobs so the corporations could take advantage of slave labor in places like china. Making labor more expensive will cause more jobs to go to places like China. Another reason 1 person could work is because the cost of living was much lower, or as a percentage less of your total salary.

We made up the difference in what we earned with debt. Corporate debt, individual debt and government debt. It has been a 40 year debt binge. Debt also has the effect of causing prices to skyrocket. Why do you think a college education increase in price so fast? Its because more and more people need to take loans to get an education.

More debt = higher prices.
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Humans that care about other Humans are for raising the min wage.


there are families barely making it right now, borderline homeless.
 Quoting: Sundara


It wasn't "livable" at $1.25. It is not "livable" at $7.25. It will not be "livable" at $1,000,000.

Your claim to superior morality is absurd.

Are you opposed to raising it to $1,000,000 an hour? Why? Everyone could retire. Even the most unskilled moron could buy the greatest health care in the world as long as he worked at McDonald's for an hour.

To be against that means that you are evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34146475


12 an hour, relax...
 Quoting: Sundara


lol..sure why not. It makes no difference to me if you raise it to $12 or a $1,000,000 because its all the same. If you raise it to $12 then my salary inflates the same and the prices inflate to match and it's all the same.

Then we can come back in a couple of years and I can explain it to you once again.

Lower the supply of unskilled labor or raise the demand for unskilled labor.
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so it all comes down to what is your purpose in life?

honestly...

is it to get rich?

help your fellow man?
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No, that is not what I'm referring to. I am not talking about more gov or a dictatorship. I'm talking about human decency, dignity and integrity. On a personal level.
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Yes you are. You act as an entrepreneur with your labor, you sell it for a price. If the price you receive is not enough then you go find a higher paying job.

If you have government force an employer to raise your wages, you are relying on force from the government to make up for your inadequacies or lack of motivation. You love tyrants.
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
In 1968 minimum wage was $1.67 per hour,which translates to $10.27 per hour in 2011 dollars

We are behind the curve by $3-$3.5 dollars

"End of discussion theres nothing to complain about"
Dont worry about inflation
Dont worry about Mcdonald,Wendys Walmarts profit margins
Dont worry if your hours get cut
Dont worry about about anything

We are behing the curve by $3+ dollars
Minimum wage earner were do for a raise 5 years ago

Only a Rich Nazi fuck would be complaining about this
 Quoting: What if ?




exactly.
 Quoting: Sundara


exactly

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