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I know they never take the hit. They are required by law to bring profit to shareholders. That is the only reason that the corporation exists.

I make about $60000 a year and have worked my ass off to get it. But up to about a year ago I was making minimum wage. And since I have been in poverty and I know what it is like; it really pisses me off to see what is happening. I had been working for near minimum wage for about ten years during high school, university, and afterwards. I can tell you that working in 2001 was nothing like working in 2011-12. I have seen a steady decline in the way that workers are treated. It makes me sick. This is not just the economy but a shift in the culture. Every heard somebody say, "Well at least we have a job. We are so lucky"? I mean people say that about the most deplorable conditions.

There are so many people that are unemployed that most employers and business owners don't even treat anyone in the entire company like human beings. Companies have unrealistic expectations, supervisors are abusive, but I have seen so many people just take getting shitted on because they are so desperate. You are just a number and nobody is valuable to the company (even 30 year employees and people who bring the company tons of money). You are so disposable that you are exactly what they tell you that you are: a human resource to be exploited.

I will give you an example of how our culture decayed: After 9/11, the government determined that we weren't protected because of incompetence in government. So how did we change? We created more agencies but guess what? Nobody got fired. In fact, many of the people who screwed up the worst got promoted. Bush even gave out a bunch of medals to some of these idiots.

Or how about some of these banks that were losing money and giving record bonuses to everybody. Or all the companies that got rewarded with bailouts during poor performance? Or even, celebrities who have no talent other than partying who we reward with tons of money and fame? The list goes on and on. This is why America is doomed. It is because of the culture of no personal responsibility for one's own actions and rewarding failure.
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you should care because we are brothers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


I do care, that is why I think personal responsibility is more important for you than relying on government to set your wages. The more government controls things, the less autonomy you have, the less freedom you have. I want you to be free brother.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432





thanks, but in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
 Quoting: Sundara


Extreme greed? Let's see..people work hard for their money to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family and because they don't want to take that money and give it to others that aren't working, but rather get their home paid for, their car paid for, try and save a little so if an emergency comes up, they have something to fall back on..this is greed, huh?

I have a blood sister, I don't take care of her, that is her responsibility and she doesn't take care of me, I'm not her responsibility.

Yup, this country is doomed.
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you should care because we are brothers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


I do care, that is why I think personal responsibility is more important for you than relying on government to set your wages. The more government controls things, the less autonomy you have, the less freedom you have. I want you to be free brother.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


thanks, but in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
 Quoting: Sundara


And why do you think those problems exist? It's because of excessive government planning and control. You or the "poor" person isn't smart enough to read thousands of pages in some government bill, but the lawyers who represent the corporations sure do and they put all kinds of benefits for themselves in those bills.

You are barking up the wrong tree. You are claiming foul evil businesses that don't pay enough, when it is the government in bed with the corporations making laws you can't read because you are slaving away on your job. You should be screaming at the government to get the hell out of the way, to govern less, to mandate less, to give the free market a chance.

The enslave you through your own greed and desire for immediate gratification. They bind you in debt to pay for their largess while throwing you some bone like minimum wage which you immediately grasp as some kind of reparation for evils done when the cost is merely shifted back on to you through higher prices, taxes and inflation.

If people don't wake up soon there will be millions dead, not because they are starving do to low wages but because the government the screamed must bring justice has become a fascist dictatorship piece by piece by controlling everything about the economy down to how much some person makes.

WAKE UP!


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14151487

Your talking too much, it gives you away...

Try a little more tact next time.

So what do they pay you?

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I think I deserve more? I am not the one asking for people to share the wealth lol.

This generation? I'm not "this generation" at all. I paid my dues when I was just out of school in the late 80's. People can be as successful as they want. I started at the bottom and worked my way up, over many years.

I have my own family to take care of and we can't afford to "share the wealth" with anyone. I got student loans and went to school, took YEARS to pay them off. Why did I do that? I got tired of only being able to get minimum wage jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


Well concider yourself fortunate or that you deserve anything.

You are no different than a lot of people who have not been as succesful but not from lack of education or hard work.

You were given an opportunity at some point in you life and if you have employees, you know that you can not be successful without them. Because "you" can't do it all by yourself.

Consider yourself special then. You are better then everyone else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33237816


Yes, I had an opportunity that I GAVE TO MYSELF, I went back to school.

I don't have employees, like I said, I work for a living, I do not have a business.

I took care of myself, it's nothing special, people have been doing that for hundreds of years. This "people take care of me" mentality has been sneaking in the last few years and gotten very prevalent the last about 5 years..wonder why?

Stop believing the lies that this Administration is telling you..you can take care of yourself. The government is not your daddy and you can't count on them or anyone else.

The only person you can count on is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


without food stamps we would be homeless.
some people need help.
don't forget that, please


there are not enough jobs for everyone right now...


the material world is out of control...


the rich/poor class system is just morally bankrupt.
 Quoting: Sundara


I know and understand all that, it has ALWAYS been that way. Many of us at times in our life have had to get food from a food bank.

People that are in a hard time and need help, don't say things like "spread the wealth" and then trash people that have worked hard and are doing ok.

Having a roof over your head, food, a car to drive to work, etc is not a "material world" at all. I know people that have a lot of money, my parents have a good bit. They buy many things I can't afford, I don't trash them for that. They worked hard for many, many years to get to that place.
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14151487

Your talking too much, it gives you away...

Try a little more tact next time.

So what do they pay you?
 Quoting: Frater


There is nothing to "give away" take your tin foil hat off.
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you should care because we are brothers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


I do care, that is why I think personal responsibility is more important for you than relying on government to set your wages. The more government controls things, the less autonomy you have, the less freedom you have. I want you to be free brother.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432





thanks, but in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
 Quoting: Sundara


Extreme greed? Let's see..people work hard for their money to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family and because they don't want to take that money and give it to others that aren't working, but rather get their home paid for, their car paid for, try and save a little so if an emergency comes up, they have something to fall back on..this is greed, huh?

I have a blood sister, I don't take care of her, that is her responsibility and she doesn't take care of me, I'm not her responsibility.

Yup, this country is doomed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


i'm not talking about you per se on the extreme greed part, but you know what i'm talking about right?

it's not easy to communicate through computers, if we were in person we would get along much better..

working hard that's great!
i'm a hard woker too,
if it's for something i can believe in, the problemt is that this society is lost...

lol

money, money, money....

we should all have it!

fires up the printer!

lol



life is awesome!

when you wake up you will agree with me:)
i love you:)
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02/13/2013 01:41 AM
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Well, actually, only the wealthy get rewarded for both failure and success.
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02/13/2013 01:42 AM
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what amount was it before?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34275968

$7.25
 Quoting: 4D Viewer


wasnt it 8.25?
 Quoting: the poop


Don't you Morans know how to use google?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708984


its called a conversation
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02/13/2013 01:47 AM
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Well, actually, only the wealthy get rewarded for both failure and success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11574345


What kind of wealth are you talking about? There are some, like small business owners that risk capital and if they win, they are rewarded. If they lose they eat it, true. Then there are those who are generational wealth or who rely on crony contacts in government, taking advantage of selective contracts, services or regulation that pushes smaller businesses away from excessive cost.

These guys are monopoly guys, they have the monopoly through government regulations, they get rich at everyone's expense, and when they lose, they get bailed out or get tax shelters or whatever, they "socialize" their losses and "privatize" their gains.
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I know they never take the hit. They are required by law to bring profit to shareholders. That is the only reason that the corporation exists.

I make about $60000 a year and have worked my ass off to get it. But up to about a year ago I was making minimum wage. And since I have been in poverty and I know what it is like; it really pisses me off to see what is happening. I had been working for near minimum wage for about ten years during high school, university, and afterwards. I can tell you that working in 2001 was nothing like working in 2011-12. I have seen a steady decline in the way that workers are treated. It makes me sick. This is not just the economy but a shift in the culture. Every heard somebody say, "Well at least we have a job. We are so lucky"? I mean people say that about the most deplorable conditions.

There are so many people that are unemployed that most employers and business owners don't even treat anyone in the entire company like human beings. Companies have unrealistic expectations, supervisors are abusive, but I have seen so many people just take getting shitted on because they are so desperate. You are just a number and nobody is valuable to the company (even 30 year employees and people who bring the company tons of money). You are so disposable that you are exactly what they tell you that you are: a human resource to be exploited.

I will give you an example of how our culture decayed: After 9/11, the government determined that we weren't protected because of incompetence in government. So how did we change? We created more agencies but guess what? Nobody got fired. In fact, many of the people who screwed up the worst got promoted. Bush even gave out a bunch of medals to some of these idiots.

Or how about some of these banks that were losing money and giving record bonuses to everybody. Or all the companies that got rewarded with bailouts during poor performance? Or even, celebrities who have no talent other than partying who we reward with tons of money and fame? The list goes on and on. This is why America is doomed. It is because of the culture of no personal responsibility for one's own actions and rewarding failure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11574345


I agree with a lot of that and much of those problems comes down to voting, among other things.

Obama was very clear what path he was going to take, but many people ignored it the first time and then again the 2nd time.

We have JP Morgan that has put several businesses and even municipalities into financial ruin and yet, all they ever get is a slap on the wrist.

It's not the banks fault, it is the government's fault. The government is the one letting them get away with everything, the government is the one giving the tax breaks to this big companies. Any company or person would take every single tax break the government would give them, can't fault them for that. Government is at fault for that. Government and lobbyist are running this country and the lives of all of us and we don't put a stop to it. Occupy Wall Street, perfect example. They are there protesting the banks for doing what the GOVERNMENT tells them they can do. They should have been on the White House lawn, not Wall Street. If the government gives you a tax break, you are going to take it, no question, they do the same. The government needs to stop handing that stuff out and until we all start telling our Representatives to stop this or we will vote them out and then we do vote them out if they don't stop it, then it will continue, because Lobbyist make the laws basically and until we all start becoming responsible and voting out these people that are a part of this, it will continue.
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I do care, that is why I think personal responsibility is more important for you than relying on government to set your wages. The more government controls things, the less autonomy you have, the less freedom you have. I want you to be free brother.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432





thanks, but in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
 Quoting: Sundara


Extreme greed? Let's see..people work hard for their money to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family and because they don't want to take that money and give it to others that aren't working, but rather get their home paid for, their car paid for, try and save a little so if an emergency comes up, they have something to fall back on..this is greed, huh?

I have a blood sister, I don't take care of her, that is her responsibility and she doesn't take care of me, I'm not her responsibility.

Yup, this country is doomed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


i'm not talking about you per se on the extreme greed part, but you know what i'm talking about right?

it's not easy to communicate through computers, if we were in person we would get along much better..

working hard that's great!
i'm a hard woker too,
if it's for something i can believe in, the problemt is that this society is lost...

lol

money, money, money....

we should all have it!

fires up the printer!

lol



life is awesome!

when you wake up you will agree with me:)
 Quoting: Sundara


I don't disagree that there is an issue with extreme greed with some people at all, but it's not in the middle class and it's not even all the rich. Being rich does not make someone bad.
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I think I deserve more? I am not the one asking for people to share the wealth lol.

This generation? I'm not "this generation" at all. I paid my dues when I was just out of school in the late 80's. People can be as successful as they want. I started at the bottom and worked my way up, over many years.

I have my own family to take care of and we can't afford to "share the wealth" with anyone. I got student loans and went to school, took YEARS to pay them off. Why did I do that? I got tired of only being able to get minimum wage jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


Well concider yourself fortunate or that you deserve anything.

You are no different than a lot of people who have not been as succesful but not from lack of education or hard work.

You were given an opportunity at some point in you life and if you have employees, you know that you can not be successful without them. Because "you" can't do it all by yourself.

Consider yourself special then. You are better then everyone else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33237816


Yes, I had an opportunity that I GAVE TO MYSELF, I went back to school.

I don't have employees, like I said, I work for a living, I do not have a business.

I took care of myself, it's nothing special, people have been doing that for hundreds of years. This "people take care of me" mentality has been sneaking in the last few years and gotten very prevalent the last about 5 years..wonder why?

Stop believing the lies that this Administration is telling you..you can take care of yourself. The government is not your daddy and you can't count on them or anyone else.

The only person you can count on is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


You don't know me. I am comfortable. I do not accept gov handouts. I have never voted and I never will. And this is not the 80's. Things were different then. More jobs for starters. You know, to pay off student loans. Jobs available straight out of college. Way different society between then and now. There was a larger middle class then. That seems to be fading away.

You never know, you could be singing a different tune in the near future. It's good to have friends. Good friends who wont turn on you in your time of need.
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WOW...a whole $9 bucks eh.

cruise


laugh


rofl
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LOL Exactly... wtf?
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I'll give just one example of government and business and how lousy they are at it.

They take a basic monopoly, the US Postal Service and what do they do? They run it into bankruptcy. How can you do that with a business that had no competition? Only our government can do that.

So now Obama has a way to fix things, he said tonight he is basically going to grow our government even bigger. Well that means more regulations, more that business owners have to deal with, rising costs for them because of it and then rising cost to us for their services.
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Meanwhile all operators of the local taco bell and burger king joints raise the prices on their signs.


I've about hit the cap on what I'll pay for a shitty burger and cold fries....
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by the time you get it after taxes you got $5.00 an hour
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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thanks, but in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
 Quoting: Sundara


Extreme greed? Let's see..people work hard for their money to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family and because they don't want to take that money and give it to others that aren't working, but rather get their home paid for, their car paid for, try and save a little so if an emergency comes up, they have something to fall back on..this is greed, huh?

I have a blood sister, I don't take care of her, that is her responsibility and she doesn't take care of me, I'm not her responsibility.

Yup, this country is doomed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


i'm not talking about you per se on the extreme greed part, but you know what i'm talking about right?

it's not easy to communicate through computers, if we were in person we would get along much better..

working hard that's great!
i'm a hard woker too,
if it's for something i can believe in, the problemt is that this society is lost...

lol

money, money, money....

we should all have it!

fires up the printer!

lol



life is awesome!

when you wake up you will agree with me:)
 Quoting: Sundara


I don't disagree that there is an issue with extreme greed with some people at all, but it's not in the middle class and it's not even all the rich. Being rich does not make someone bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


i agree, it is those that make unjust profits off of their fellow humans that i'm talking about.


i'm getting tired, was a good talk, i know your point of view and understand it, it's just not how i am or how the future will be...

as we rise in consciousness you will see more and more people desire to help each other, because it is what brings us joy...


when you help someone you are in reality helping yourself as we are all one of the Source...


remember?


ask yourself before you sleep tonight about this, please:)
i love you:)
Sundara

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cruise


WOW...a whole $9 bucks eh.

cruise


laugh


rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10318662


LOL Exactly... wtf?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34093306




yeah, should be 12 minimum, my wife thinks it should be 15
i love you:)
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1) This ain't going to pass the House. Republicans won't vote for it.

2) Obama knows it is going to fail but is going to use it in the Congressional elections in two years with the "they don't care about you" garbage.

Everything he does...or proposes...is for the sole purpose of getting the ignorant to put Pelosi back into power so they can control all the levers and completely change all the rules in his last two years.

That is all it is about.
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You forget, Obama thinks he is King, he'll just sign an executive order and make it law ANYWAY

huffy
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ohh ffs..you and your obammy is king bullshit.

STFU already fucking spamtard
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cruise


WOW...a whole $9 bucks eh.

cruise


laugh


rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10318662


LOL Exactly... wtf?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34093306




yeah, should be 12 minimum, my wife thinks it should be 15
 Quoting: Sundara



You and your wife should think about it more carefully. When minimum wages are increased, everything costs more. People on minimum wage remain poor, regardless what is is increased to, because cost of goods and services increase accordingly with it.
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I think I deserve more? I am not the one asking for people to share the wealth lol.

This generation? I'm not "this generation" at all. I paid my dues when I was just out of school in the late 80's. People can be as successful as they want. I started at the bottom and worked my way up, over many years.

I have my own family to take care of and we can't afford to "share the wealth" with anyone. I got student loans and went to school, took YEARS to pay them off. Why did I do that? I got tired of only being able to get minimum wage jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


Well concider yourself fortunate or that you deserve anything.

You are no different than a lot of people who have not been as succesful but not from lack of education or hard work.

You were given an opportunity at some point in you life and if you have employees, you know that you can not be successful without them. Because "you" can't do it all by yourself.

Consider yourself special then. You are better then everyone else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33237816


Yes, I had an opportunity that I GAVE TO MYSELF, I went back to school.

I don't have employees, like I said, I work for a living, I do not have a business.

I took care of myself, it's nothing special, people have been doing that for hundreds of years. This "people take care of me" mentality has been sneaking in the last few years and gotten very prevalent the last about 5 years..wonder why?

Stop believing the lies that this Administration is telling you..you can take care of yourself. The government is not your daddy and you can't count on them or anyone else.

The only person you can count on is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


You don't know me. I am comfortable. I do not accept gov handouts. I have never voted and I never will. And this is not the 80's. Things were different then. More jobs for starters. You know, to pay off student loans. Jobs available straight out of college. Way different society between then and now. There was a larger middle class then. That seems to be fading away.

You never know, you could be singing a different tune in the near future. It's good to have friends. Good friends who wont turn on you in your time of need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33237816


YOU are the one that made the assumptions about me, remember? So don't tell me I don't know you, when I come back after you came after me.

Each generation always thinks it is worse for them. I thought it was worse for me than my mom and her siblings. My mom was the baby, so she was just born, but my uncle, the oldest, he laughed at me. They grew up during the Depression. My grandparents worked themselves to death, were broke, completely broke, but my mom and aunts and uncle had no idea they were poor growing up. Why? Because during the Great Depression, my grandparents did what they had to and made it work. Trust me, that was much worse than what is going on now. They had to plant a garden, they had to buy a cow for milk, they had to make their clothes, they had to walk every where they went, couldn't afford to drive the car except for work.

It's no different for you than for anyone in the middle class. Yeah, my car is paid off, I would love a new car, won't do it, never know what is going to happen these days. I have a small amount in savings that I try not to dip into, but with the price of food going up as it is, many times I have to.

Most of us are one paycheck away from being in serious trouble, even those that make more than minimum wage. I'm even going BACK to school again now, while I work, to add something else to my degree, not because I want to, but to put me ahead of the competition out there. I need to make myself as valuable as an employee as I can, because there is a lot of competition out there.

That's the entire point, everyone is basically broke these days, whether they make $7.25 and hour or $50K a year.
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Extreme greed? Let's see..people work hard for their money to feed, clothe and house themselves and their family and because they don't want to take that money and give it to others that aren't working, but rather get their home paid for, their car paid for, try and save a little so if an emergency comes up, they have something to fall back on..this is greed, huh?

I have a blood sister, I don't take care of her, that is her responsibility and she doesn't take care of me, I'm not her responsibility.

Yup, this country is doomed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


i'm not talking about you per se on the extreme greed part, but you know what i'm talking about right?

it's not easy to communicate through computers, if we were in person we would get along much better..

working hard that's great!
i'm a hard woker too,
if it's for something i can believe in, the problemt is that this society is lost...

lol

money, money, money....

we should all have it!

fires up the printer!

lol



life is awesome!

when you wake up you will agree with me:)
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I don't disagree that there is an issue with extreme greed with some people at all, but it's not in the middle class and it's not even all the rich. Being rich does not make someone bad.
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i agree, it is those that make unjust profits off of their fellow humans that i'm talking about.


i'm getting tired, was a good talk, i know your point of view and understand it, it's just not how i am or how the future will be...

as we rise in consciousness you will see more and more people desire to help each other, because it is what brings us joy...


when you help someone you are in reality helping yourself as we are all one of the Source...


remember?


ask yourself before you sleep tonight about this, please:)
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It's not about not helping people, I'll give anything to anyone that NEEDS it but I will not give what I have worked for to someone that refuses to help themselves at all.
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It doesn't do anything for people on commission. I make 9-15$ per hour, and it doesn't do a thing to help me.
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It doesn't do anything for people on commission. I make 9-15$ per hour, and it doesn't do a thing to help me.
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Aren't commissions on top of a set hourly wage or salary?
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cruise


WOW...a whole $9 bucks eh.

cruise


laugh


rofl
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LOL Exactly... wtf?
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yeah, should be 12 minimum, my wife thinks it should be 15
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You and your wife should think about it more carefully. When minimum wages are increased, everything costs more. People on minimum wage remain poor, regardless what is is increased to, because cost of goods and services increase accordingly with it.
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not true, but that's what you people want us to believe.
i love you:)
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in a system where you need money to feed, clothe and shelter yourself then some may need help, in fact because of extreme greed, many need help or we will be raped by corporations/for-profit banks/interest rates..
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Monetary systems are evil & unnatural. May our world soon come to a grinding halt.
Or explosion.

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LOL Exactly... wtf?
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yeah, should be 12 minimum, my wife thinks it should be 15
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You and your wife should think about it more carefully. When minimum wages are increased, everything costs more. People on minimum wage remain poor, regardless what is is increased to, because cost of goods and services increase accordingly with it.
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not true, but that's what you people want us to believe.
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Of course it is. Are the CEO's going to take a pay cut for us peasants. Of course not. They're going to pass on the cost to the consumers.
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so the fuck what? it is still miserable enough... aussies and cannes do it better
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This is a quick fix!! It won't last long. Money does not grow from trees!
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Your full of shit. You know damn well money grows from the trees M.Obama grows.
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Is he trying to run us out of business!!! If you raise one side the other would even out with it!!! The money comes from the people that buy the product and the price just rose by $1 cause of the minimum wage raise!! He does not get it!!

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I'm sure he gets it, but the general public doesn't. There will be hell to pay when we all lose the dollar menues.