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Manu-Koelbren

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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


get rid of materialistic products and get back to the basics. Everyone should grow food, build homes, and such. No money, no class, just humanity working as ONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Do you mean that everyone should grow THEIR OWN food and build THEIR OWN homes? And what happens to those who can't or are not skilled enough to do it? Or is it that you mean to say that those who who KNOW and are WILLING to do those things should do it for everyone else who don't?
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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


get rid of materialistic products and get back to the basics. Everyone should grow food, build homes, and such. No money, no class, just humanity working as ONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Do you mean that everyone should grow THEIR OWN food and build THEIR OWN homes? And what happens to those who can't or are not skilled enough to do it? Or is it that you mean to say that those who who KNOW and are WILLING to do those things should do it for everyone else who don't?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

The knowledge of how to build and how to grow would have been taught to you at an early age.
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02/13/2013 06:31 AM
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$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
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In John Titor's fictional world, everybody does go back to a farming, crafting and bartering world.

Ironically, robots and computers were supposed to make our jobs easier. Instead, they replaced us and now we can't buy the products made by robots and computers.

Don't blame Obama for trying to raise the minimum wage. Putting money in the hands of consumers is the only way to improve an economy. We tried austerity in Europe, remember? It failed because government workers lost their jobs and that means fewer consumers in a consumer economy.
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02/13/2013 06:36 AM
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Your all idiots, do the math. You get paid more and you work less, what more do you need? Seriously

If management was smart, they would be able to use their heads and balance out the hours. If everyones minimum wage goes up, lower the hours for employees, but not enough to where they dont get paid the same amount every 2 weeks.
 Quoting: Zarx


Minimum wage goes up, so cut the hours of employees. Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

Oh wait, cutting hours can affect things like benefits you receive like health insurance, disability insurance, qualifying for vacation, sick days, holiday pay, contributing to a 401K or any kind of retirement fund.

Yeah, another brilliant idea..smh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


Your not seeing the picture here. Would you rather A: work a job $5 an hour for 8 hours. Or B: work a job at $10 an hour for 4 hours?

Yes the store would have less workers and the expense would be more per hour, but to compensate they would either raise the price of food, or maybe lower managements pay a tad? I think it's looking like the rich and poor are coming together to where we all make the same amount in the end, maybe.
 Quoting: Zarx


You aren't seeing the point. If they lower their hours, they lose even more in the long run, important things like healthcare, unemployment should they be laid off or lose their job, now on mandated holidays, they don't get paid a dime, they have no vacation time, they have no sick time, they have no money put into any type of retirement.

Coming together where we all make the same amount in the end? I think not. I would be highly upset after paying thousands for my school if someone can flip a burger and make the same amount as me, especially when my job involves having the lives of people in my hands.

You cut minimum wage workers hours, they don't make anymore money, they have no health insurance, they then have to go into the system for government assistance for healthcare, food stamps, government housing, etc..our taxes go up to cover this. You know that we can't just print more money and they government does not generate income, their money comes from taxes and who pays those? The tax payers, so then EVERYONE makes less because taxes go up more.
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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931923


Again the equal distribution of wealth. Look at history, when "wealth is distributed" it is never equal. The government gets most of it and then everyone is dirt poor.
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02/13/2013 06:41 AM
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This only affects the businesses that are paying their employees minimum wage, which are usually the companies that are taking advantage of them anyway. Do you really think $7.25/hour is a livable wage? What's wrong with the guy flipping your burger getting paid a few bucks more? I think the fact that the government has to step in and force businesses to pay a living wage says more about business practices than the government.
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Obviously someone isn't reading any of the responses...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


You're right, I haven't read through 16 pages of responses. But the gist of the argument is it will raise the cost of everything else which isn't really accurate. All businesses aren't paying minimum wage to their workers. Most of the cost of production goes to the skilled workers that create the product (the few things that aren't made in China anyway). The people who would benefit from this aren't the people that are producing everything so the impact on prices is very small.
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So when they raise the minimum wage and they have to pay tons of people more money, where do you think they are going to get that loss from?

US, that is where, all of us.
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02/13/2013 06:43 AM
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same with healthcare, employers will now have to give health coverage to anyone who works more than 30 hours, so there will be less full-timers and more part-timers at companies, so that company does not pay more out on pay-roll than it already is

Same will occur with 9$ hour minimum wage - less hours for people - too balance it out


If Obama thinks he can force the hand of company owner's to pay more to workers and give health insurance, when there is a pool of workers who will work regardless of weather or not they get 30 hours a week or 9$ an hour ...

IT WONT WORK

it will just hurt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21997452


Hardly any of the big box stores and retail hire full-timers anymore.
 Quoting: geminilion


They don't hire full time for a reason, so they don't have to pay for benefits like health insurance, holiday pay or pay unemployment insurance.

In the short run, that hurts the part-time employees immediately, in the long run, it hurts the entire economy as a whole.
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what amount was it before?
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Federal: 7.25
Maine: 7.75

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02/13/2013 06:53 AM
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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


get rid of materialistic products and get back to the basics. Everyone should grow food, build homes, and such. No money, no class, just humanity working as ONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yes, because people living in urban areas have all the room in the world to have a garden and farm animals. Also, you might forget there are building codes and they have these codes for a reason. You can't just throw up a home, run sewer and electricity through it and not met code, you have to be licensed to do those things, again for a reason.

Also not to mention, I have to work and therefore I don't have the time to build my home, till a garden, churn butter, make all my clothes and worry about feeding my horse that will pull my buggy. Also the electric company won't take a bushel of corn in payment for an electric bill, for some strange reason, they only take money. So therefore, since I can't plant money in a garden and grow it, I have to work to pay for things like my homeowners insurance, my electricity, my water, my gas. I need cash to pay my copay if I have to go to the doctor, the pharmacy will not take a couple dozen eggs as payment for a prescription either.

We don't live on the Prairie by candle light and "go to town" in our horse and buggy once a week to buy yarn to knit our socks. This is 2013 not the 1800's.
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02/13/2013 06:55 AM
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In John Titor's fictional world, everybody does go back to a farming, crafting and bartering world.

Ironically, robots and computers were supposed to make our jobs easier. Instead, they replaced us and now we can't buy the products made by robots and computers.

Don't blame Obama for trying to raise the minimum wage. Putting money in the hands of consumers is the only way to improve an economy. We tried austerity in Europe, remember? It failed because government workers lost their jobs and that means fewer consumers in a consumer economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518033


Raising the minimum wage will not put money in the hands of consumers in the long run. The businesses will raise their prices to pass that new expense on to consumers, the cost of living will rise and the $9 and hour will be no more than the $7.25 and hour because everything will cost more.

The business is NOT going to eat the cost of them having to pay employees more money. They will raise their prices and the consumer will pay the cost.
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02/13/2013 06:58 AM
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$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518033


And then you will have no health coverage. If you get laid off, you will not be able to collect unemployment. This will result with even more people on government assistance and someone, the taxpayers is who, will be paying for the cost of these people on government assistance.
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$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518033


And then you will have no health coverage. If you get laid off, you will not be able to collect unemployment. This will result with even more people on government assistance and someone, the taxpayers is who, will be paying for the cost of these people on government assistance.
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Most of us in the next several years will be on a national health insurance program regardless of pay. And yes, it has its problems.
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Make it a crime for American companies to send their jobs overseas.........then raise the minimum wage to atleast $12.00 an hour and maybe........just maybe people can get back to work and actually pay some of their bills.
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$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518033


The problem is, if you replace workers with robots, nobody has money to buy the products robots make.

The same problem you can see when playing monopoly. When capital is built, masses end up poor, nobody can pay the rent, the game ends and the capital is destroyed.

Karl Marx argued that labour is exploited. Somehow he must be right, but Communism didn't work either.
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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


and tell me- what is the incentive to make a high wage when it would only be taken from you and given to some lazy ass stupid tv watching moron?

the only way in which that scenario will ever work is if MONEY is 100% gone.
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$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1518033


The problem is, if you replace workers with robots, nobody has money to buy the products robots make.

The same problem you can see when playing monopoly. When capital is built, masses end up poor, nobody can pay the rent, the game ends and the capital is destroyed.

Karl Marx argued that labour is exploited. Somehow he must be right, but Communism didn't work either.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Communism is an abandoned ideal. German Socialism works. It will be the dominant government. And robots will replace most jobs. If you can think of a job where a human person is better, then that is the job that will last well into the future. Even construction jobs will be replaced in our lifetime by robots.
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Make it a crime for American companies to send their jobs overseas.........then raise the minimum wage to atleast $12.00 an hour and maybe........just maybe people can get back to work and actually pay some of their bills.
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Ain't going to work, Lisa. The jobs are coming back from China this year to the U.S. Too bad robots in the U.S. will be doing these jobs.
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same with healthcare, employers will now have to give health coverage to anyone who works more than 30 hours, so there will be less full-timers and more part-timers at companies, so that company does not pay more out on pay-roll than it already is

Same will occur with 9$ hour minimum wage - less hours for people - too balance it out


If Obama thinks he can force the hand of company owner's to pay more to workers and give health insurance, when there is a pool of workers who will work regardless of weather or not they get 30 hours a week or 9$ an hour ...

IT WONT WORK

it will just hurt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21997452


Hardly any of the big box stores and retail hire full-timers anymore.
 Quoting: geminilion


They don't hire full time for a reason, so they don't have to pay for benefits like health insurance, holiday pay or pay unemployment insurance.

In the short run, that hurts the part-time employees immediately, in the long run, it hurts the entire economy as a whole.
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It's sort of the opposite where I work (ups) part-time only on hire but I get health,dental,vision,presc., 10k life all completely free (after a year) It's not shit coverage either. Yet you have too be here for several year to become full time and ft's have to contribute to their ins.(I heard)
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Communism is an abandoned ideal. German Socialism works. It will be the dominant government. And robots will replace most jobs. If you can think of a job where a human person is better, then that is the job that will last well into the future. Even construction jobs will be replaced in our lifetime by robots.
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If robots take over human jobs then humans have no money to pay for the products robots make because they are unemployed so the robots will get rusty.

Last Edited by niphtrique on 02/13/2013 07:39 AM
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Paying property taxes after your kids are grown supported schools. Smarter children, less crime, higher property taxes.

Paying living wages after your summer house is paid for....

Eat The Rich, and Unpatriotic.

have to say it again.

EAT THE RICH.

siren2
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the rich need to clam down and learn to share,



how did they get rich in the first place...


let me guess..


lol



it's all about fairness, equallity, love, joy, truth, compassion and righteousness.

:)
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Most people, myself included, start at the bottom when they are young and they work themselves up. They have to do without what they were used to having when they lived with mommy and daddy and start making their own way. They moved out of a nice house, into a cheap apartment. They didn't get a brand new car, they bought what they could afford. I didn't have cable for the first 3 years I lived on my own, yes, that is a shocker, but it can be done. I drove an inexpensive car, I lived in a cheap apartment, I worked two jobs at times and GASP..they were both jobs that I HATED. It was about 6 months on my own before I could even have a phone in my apartment. I had one old couch, my bedroom stuff, I had a few pieces of kitchen things here and there that my mom gave me. I had THREE towels, had to wash them all the time.

I worked, moved myself up, saved my money, didn't have unnecessary things until I could AFFORD it.

That is what normal people do, they don't generally go from the lifestyle of mommy and daddy into that same lifestyle when they leave mommy and daddy. Mommy and daddy worked a lot of years to get to that lifestyle and they started at the bottom also when they were young.

No one shared their wealth with me, I worked to take care of myself. Yes, I know, it's a strange concept, starting at the bottom and working to support yourself and not getting something from others.

Good Lord, we are doomed..share the wealth my ass. Work for your wealth like a normal person.
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OR you could do like my relatives....Work but live off mommy and daddy so all the earned money can be saved and some spent on luxuries all the while claiming you made it 100 % on your own.Then when they croak take everything and buy you a big house free and clear and tell the world you did it all by yourself.Got a little fancy cousin that did just that and now he is above all us but he did it all without one bit of help.Living under mommies dress tail for 40 years didnt contribute one thing doncha you know.
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02/13/2013 07:27 AM
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Great!!! Let's also legalize 15 million illegal aliens to even further dilute the workforce, too. Its social manipulation that's killing us. That and the American public's acceptance of complete garbage as desirable.
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Is he trying to run us out of business!!! If you raise one side the other would even out with it!!! The money comes from the people that buy the product and the price just rose by $1 cause of the minimum wage raise!! He does not get it!!

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He is trying to start his own communist country. Get busy for 2014 elections now so we can stop this tyrant.
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The answer to the worlds economy problem:

A classless society of equal distribution of wealth amongst the people. Just like the old hunter-gatherer societies of ancient times. All things needed were distributed equally amongst the groups.

Capitalism is the biggest threat to mankind. Even Nikola Tesla the smartest man who ever lived said

'Capitalism is like a fire, if left unattended it will burn the whole world down'

Capitalism allows the privatization of banks. You guys wanna fix your problem? Go after the rich fuckers at the top that got rich off of the workers backs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


get rid of materialistic products and get back to the basics. Everyone should grow food, build homes, and such. No money, no class, just humanity working as ONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940


Do you mean that everyone should grow THEIR OWN food and build THEIR OWN homes? And what happens to those who can't or are not skilled enough to do it? Or is it that you mean to say that those who who KNOW and are WILLING to do those things should do it for everyone else who don't?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Guess your going to have to use your brain and THINK of a way....or yea...fucking die.

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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
Paying property taxes after your kids are grown supported schools. Smarter children, less crime, higher property taxes.

Paying living wages after your summer house is paid for....

Eat The Rich, and Unpatriotic.

have to say it again.

EAT THE RICH.

siren2
 Quoting: Kybeam 27604421



the rich need to clam down and learn to share,



how did they get rich in the first place...


let me guess..


lol



it's all about fairness, equallity, love, joy, truth, compassion and righteousness.

:)
 Quoting: Sundara


Most people, myself included, start at the bottom when they are young and they work themselves up. They have to do without what they were used to having when they lived with mommy and daddy and start making their own way. They moved out of a nice house, into a cheap apartment. They didn't get a brand new car, they bought what they could afford. I didn't have cable for the first 3 years I lived on my own, yes, that is a shocker, but it can be done. I drove an inexpensive car, I lived in a cheap apartment, I worked two jobs at times and GASP..they were both jobs that I HATED. It was about 6 months on my own before I could even have a phone in my apartment. I had one old couch, my bedroom stuff, I had a few pieces of kitchen things here and there that my mom gave me. I had THREE towels, had to wash them all the time.

I worked, moved myself up, saved my money, didn't have unnecessary things until I could AFFORD it.

That is what normal people do, they don't generally go from the lifestyle of mommy and daddy into that same lifestyle when they leave mommy and daddy. Mommy and daddy worked a lot of years to get to that lifestyle and they started at the bottom also when they were young.

No one shared their wealth with me, I worked to take care of myself. Yes, I know, it's a strange concept, starting at the bottom and working to support yourself and not getting something from others.

Good Lord, we are doomed..share the wealth my ass. Work for your wealth like a normal person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487


OR you could do like my relatives....Work but live off mommy and daddy so all the earned money can be saved and some spent on luxuries all the while claiming you made it 100 % on your own.Then when they croak take everything and buy you a big house free and clear and tell the world you did it all by yourself.Got a little fancy cousin that did just that and now he is above all us but he did it all without one bit of help.Living under mommies dress tail for 40 years didnt contribute one thing doncha you know.
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Yea....It take 20 years to become an over night success
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
$9.00 per hour in every U.S. state will help the economy and help taxes for a bit.

But it still doesn't change the fact that manufacturing robots are replacing human workers and there just isn't enough work for everyone to have a full-time job.

Another thing we can try is to force everyone to work 3 to 4 days a week, or 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week.

Imagine working for $9.00 an hour 3 days a week. You'll be poor, but at least your neighbors will also have the same job you do during different shifts.
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And then you will have no health coverage. If you get laid off, you will not be able to collect unemployment. This will result with even more people on government assistance and someone, the taxpayers is who, will be paying for the cost of these people on government assistance.
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Most of us in the next several years will be on a national health insurance program regardless of pay. And yes, it has its problems.
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Hopefully Obamacare will be done away with come next election, if not, then we are in even more trouble. Also Obamacare has this same mandate as far as the penalty and that will be even more 29 hours or less a week jobs or either laying off half of their workforce. No, the government needs to stop the bailouts, invest that money instead in startup SMALL business, give tax incentives for new small business, given all companies tax incentive to not outsource to other countries, stop outsourcing to other countries themselves, give consumers incentive to buy American. New jobs are created HERE, people spend their money here, it stimulates the economy and then people go back to work and wages automatically rise. Then there isn't competition for jobs, it becomes competition to get employees.
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
same with healthcare, employers will now have to give health coverage to anyone who works more than 30 hours, so there will be less full-timers and more part-timers at companies, so that company does not pay more out on pay-roll than it already is

Same will occur with 9$ hour minimum wage - less hours for people - too balance it out


If Obama thinks he can force the hand of company owner's to pay more to workers and give health insurance, when there is a pool of workers who will work regardless of weather or not they get 30 hours a week or 9$ an hour ...

IT WONT WORK

it will just hurt
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Hardly any of the big box stores and retail hire full-timers anymore.
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They don't hire full time for a reason, so they don't have to pay for benefits like health insurance, holiday pay or pay unemployment insurance.

In the short run, that hurts the part-time employees immediately, in the long run, it hurts the entire economy as a whole.
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It's sort of the opposite where I work (ups) part-time only on hire but I get health,dental,vision,presc., 10k life all completely free (after a year) It's not shit coverage either. Yet you have too be here for several year to become full time and ft's have to contribute to their ins.(I heard)
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You are very lucky, most full time employees at best get discounted coverage, the company pays for some and they pay the rest. Very, very few companies give free insurance anymore.
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02/13/2013 07:53 AM
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
The poor keep getting poorer and the rich keep getting richer.

That does not surprise me.

What does surprise me is that actual american citizens don't even want the poor to earn a fair amount of money for their work. That's amazing.
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
The poor keep getting poorer and the rich keep getting richer.

That does not surprise me.

What does surprise me is that actual american citizens don't even want the poor to earn a fair amount of money for their work. That's amazing.
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So that's what you got from all of this, that the actual American citizens doesn't want the poor to earn a fair amount of money for their work?

If that is what you got from our convo, you obviously have different words printed on your screen than what we are seeing.
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Yeah and so was work.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


get rid of materialistic products and get back to the basics. Everyone should grow food, build homes, and such. No money, no class, just humanity working as ONE.
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Do you mean that everyone should grow THEIR OWN food and build THEIR OWN homes? And what happens to those who can't or are not skilled enough to do it? Or is it that you mean to say that those who who KNOW and are WILLING to do those things should do it for everyone else who don't?
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Guess your going to have to use your brain and THINK of a way....or yea...fucking die.

Death is life's only gift for everyone
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