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Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living. This will help keep the cost of living down because companies won't want to pay their minimum wage employees more money.

Its about time that these damn companies start paying, even if it is only $9.00/hr.

How anyone can live on $7.25/hr now is crazy. Then you have the big CEO's giving themselves big raises and thousands of dollars bonuses.

I would raise minimum wage to $15. These CEO's are part of whats driving the middle class down into poverty.

Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass.
s226
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All the fast food places make PLENTY OF PROFIT in the billions of dollars. They will not be hurting if wages go up
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


bullshit. The owner of the largest Burger King chain in the United States went bankrupt a couple years ago. You have no idea what you're talking about. Over half of my new restaurants go bankrupt. Instead of demanding more of someone else's hard earned investment why don't you do something with your life
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It's because a large number of business owners falsefy yearly income. Wouldn't want to get busted would you? Don't make the mistake of letting your living habits leave a paper trail that's larger than your "income".
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So we should raise the minimum wage here to $9 an hour while we import goods from around the world at lower and lower costs due to human rights abuses (China!). Awesome, that's one way to make people feel like they are getting their money's worth while a family in China deals with their loved ones committing suicide to make your goods.
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How come the $16 Minimum wage in Australia doesn't hurt their economy? I mean their unemployment rate is 4.9%

Just sayin. Fact is their economy is booming and it's doing so because wages are keeping up with inflation.

In the US where wages are stagnant you have stagnant growth.

It's pretty obvious.
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So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712


repubs are schizo as fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34294360


You guys don't get it!! It does not fix anything. If wage goes up that may result in jobloss, shorter shifts, and rise in prices of good."for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"
 Quoting: 4D Viewer


No, what happens is business owners get used to a certain standard of living and aren't willing to take a loss. So they look for other ways to keep their prohit levels the same. Like, increasing prices. Cutting hours, benifits, employees.

Always the same $47t%$.


Make sure to give a true and accurate account of all earnings business owners. I know how you guys like to withold income from ever making it to your business accounts. You know what I'm talking about. Be sure to inform your accountants....
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Very true! In most cases it is the greed of a business that will cause the prices to rise. So if business A is cutting a profit of 1 million a year and because of this law their profit is going down to lets say 800,000 per year. No, that's not enough for their pockets.. they need to make more cuts to get back to that 1 million dollar profit margin. Then they say, "hey those liberals are giving us a good excuse to actually make even more money.. lets run with this idea that prices will naturally go up, and we will increase them even more. So maybe they were making 1 million but now they are making 1.2 million.. lol and they will blame those rising product costs on the fed. min. wage being increased.

Most of the large chain business can and totally should afford to pay their employees more.. Maybe they should add a clause to the min. wage that if you are in a small town.. or area with a low cost of living.. AND you are a small business with profits of lets say 100K or less per year, that you have a lower Fed. Min. wage to adhere too. That would help


I mean really.... do you guys think chains like .. Hmm. Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Best Buy, etc..etc...etc.. do you really think they cannot afford to pay employees more w/o having to pass the cost over to their customers.. really? They Have to raise prices.. no.. it's a choice they make so they can be as rich as they were before.. if not even more so.

Just because an idea is coming from a Dem. doesn't make it bad, just as not all republican ideas and agendas are bad. One must look at the idea for what it is, and what it will accomplish, not where it's coming from and who is telling you to support it, or not support it.

OK this is turing into a rant that many of you will hate.. sorry, I just have to speak my mind, I figure that's what this place is for.. all ideas, not just one-sided ideas.
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02/12/2013 11:11 PM
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So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck?
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So we should raise the minimum wage here to $9 an hour while we import goods from around the world at lower and lower costs due to human rights abuses (China!). Awesome, that's one way to make people feel like they are getting their money's worth while a family in China deals with their loved ones committing suicide to make your goods.
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You're telling me Americans don't commit suicide due to economic reasons?

I bet they do.
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02/12/2013 11:13 PM
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!

I think its a smart idea. Obama also wants the minimum wage to go up along with cost of living. This will help keep the cost of living down because companies won't want to pay their minimum wage employees more money.

Its about time that these damn companies start paying, even if it is only $9.00/hr.

How anyone can live on $7.25/hr now is crazy. Then you have the big CEO's giving themselves big raises and thousands of dollars bonuses.

I would raise minimum wage to $15. These CEO's are part of whats driving the middle class down into poverty.

Don't like my comments, well then just kiss my ass.
s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26993662


All the fast food places make PLENTY OF PROFIT in the billions of dollars. They will not be hurting if wages go up
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


How much do you think the franchise owners get? A Very small part I presume
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I bet they get a lot of fucking money that's what I bet.

Otherwise their time would be better spent working as an accountant or some other 80k/yr job.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Do you realize it cost 1,000,000 dollars to open a new McDonalds store. Do you know how much time in effort it takes save 1,000,000 dollars? Of course you don't.

if you don't like it why don't you start your own business. Oh that would take more ambition and self discipline then you have.
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02/12/2013 11:13 PM
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I am in a fast food business, and if you can not afford 9$/h for employees, it time to close the door, make some space for business who can....
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02/12/2013 11:14 PM
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God forbid that you would have to fire those illegals and pay real Americans a living wage.
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02/12/2013 11:14 PM
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So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712


People are selfish and want to support human slavery. Its a shame to see fellow humans wish poverty upon others.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


lets just say you have been working for 2 years and make say 9.75 how is it fair to them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34250825


This is about helping to bring people out of poverty, not being "fair".. really, life isn't fair.. isn't that one of our first life lessons.
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02/12/2013 11:14 PM
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Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
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02/12/2013 11:15 PM
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
Add this to the Obama free shit list.
The imbeciles will eat this shit up while they march off to thier own destruction.
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02/12/2013 11:15 PM

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Okay people we are not just talking about fast food!! Look around you!!
Respect yourself
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02/12/2013 11:15 PM
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I think minimum wage should be $20.00 an hour.

I mean, what the fuck is the problem, share the wealth eh.
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Means fewer jobs and fewer businesses and fewer hours because they WILL cut back.

The solution is for the government to get off our backs and let us unlock our cell phones and do what we please which will stimulate the economy and grow it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


No, you are overreacting.

Loser republican idiot face.

Derrrr!
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02/12/2013 11:16 PM
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Is he trying to run us out of business!!! If you raise one side the other would even out with it!!! The money comes from the people that buy the product and the price just rose by $1 cause of the minimum wage raise!! He does not get it!!

[link to www.businessweek.com]
 Quoting: 4D Viewer


It should be 16 dollars/hr all things considered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


Another moron with no business sense or skills pulls a number out of their ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32716157


Honestly...I think we all ought to just get out of their way. Let them have what they want. Let them tax and spend and redistribute exactly like they want. Even encourage them in their wildest crazy.

Then we'll finally all be rich, comfortable, healthy, and everything will be free in utopia or the whole thing will collapse and we get to start over in the real world.
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02/12/2013 11:16 PM
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How come the $16 Minimum wage in Australia doesn't hurt their economy? I mean their unemployment rate is 4.9%

Just sayin. Fact is their economy is booming and it's doing so because wages are keeping up with inflation.

In the US where wages are stagnant you have stagnant growth.

It's pretty obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


You couldn't be more wrong. Australia has low unemployment because they have a wealth of natural resources and few minorities that sit around and collect welfare as a means of survival.
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
I think minimum wage should be $20.00 an hour.

I mean, what the fuck is the problem, share the wealth eh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34136939


Means fewer jobs and fewer businesses and fewer hours because they WILL cut back.

The solution is for the government to get off our backs and let us unlock our cell phones and do what we please which will stimulate the economy and grow it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


No, you are overreacting.

Loser republican idiot face.

Derrrr!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34136939


iamwith
Respect yourself
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I am in a fast food business, and if you can not afford 9$/h for employees, it time to close the door, make some space for business who can....
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They can afford it they're just greedy.


Seriously 3 man night crew at a fast food restaurant brings in over $250/hr easily. And the cost of labor for that hour is at current wages
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02/12/2013 11:17 PM
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
How come the $16 Minimum wage in Australia doesn't hurt their economy? I mean their unemployment rate is 4.9%

Just sayin. Fact is their economy is booming and it's doing so because wages are keeping up with inflation.

In the US where wages are stagnant you have stagnant growth.

It's pretty obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


You couldn't be more wrong. Australia has low unemployment because they have a wealth of natural resources and few minorities that sit around and collect welfare as a means of survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32716157


Actually our mining industry is larger than Australia's.
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02/12/2013 11:17 PM
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Why is a thread with such a misleading title being pinned... oh wait, I forgot this is GLP. Land of the mislead..
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how is it misleading? Just going off the article and obama's speech! Oh wait I used Obama as source! Scratch that 75% of this is misleading due to Obama being used as a source. No but seriously how?
 Quoting: 4D Viewer


Because it didn't go up you idiot. You know that as well as anyone else with half a brain.

The title should read, "President proposes raising Fed. Min. Wage to $9/hour" or similar.
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02/12/2013 11:19 PM
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Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
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As I pointed out just a few posts back, the largest Burger King franchise owner in the United States went bankrupt recently. do you realize the average profit margin in fast food is well I under 5 percent. Would you risk 1,000,000 dollars for a 5 percent return?
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02/12/2013 11:21 PM
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How come the $16 Minimum wage in Australia doesn't hurt their economy? I mean their unemployment rate is 4.9%

Just sayin. Fact is their economy is booming and it's doing so because wages are keeping up with inflation.

In the US where wages are stagnant you have stagnant growth.

It's pretty obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


You couldn't be more wrong. Australia has low unemployment because they have a wealth of natural resources and few minorities that sit around and collect welfare as a means of survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32716157


Actually our mining industry is larger than Australia's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


per capita Australia has several times the commodity output of the United States. I'm guessing you don't let facts confuse you though.
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02/12/2013 11:22 PM
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I am in a fast food business, and if you can not afford 9$/h for employees, it time to close the door, make some space for business who can....
 Quoting: nonothing


Thank you.. any good, aka:smart/savy, business owner can and will make this happen.
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02/12/2013 11:22 PM
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So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck?
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When the place you work cuts back your hours or lays you off you won't make more.
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it's not enough to support a family,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20425162


It isn't meant to support a family...

& that still doesnt guarantee you a job,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20425162


Nothing government ever does, except for "having a military force" you can join (if you qualify), or "running prisons" if you shouldn't be allowed to mingle with the free citizens, should EVER guarantee you a job. Nothing.

Believe me, those of us who work for considerably large multiples of the minimum wage aren't guaranteed a job either. And that's the way it should be.

hours
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Assuming you're not in the military or prison, nothing except YOU (if you're self-employed), or the contractual agreement between yourself and your employer (if you were successful in finding employment) should determine the amount of hours you work. Remember: Don't be French!


or affordable housing.
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Define the nebulous concept you're shilling called "affordable housing". Nobody, and especially not the government, should "guarantee" you "affordable housing". Talk about steel and lead handcuffs, I can't think of many better economic traps than to guarantee someone "affordable" housing because what anyone can afford is specific to their own financial circumstances, so we're talking dog-house "lowest common denominator" here, which people with no skills, no prospects, and no hope are then afraid to do anything that might cause them to move.

There are words for places like "affordable housing"... "Projects" and "Ghettos" are among them.

so cheer you sheep cheer for your slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20425162


Uh, I feel pretty safe here saying that you're the one laboring in slavery... You're a slave to handouts, to having to be given what you either can't or (more likely) won't earn.

While the rest of us battle the tyranny of the socialist thieves in Washington D.C., you're a slave to the tyranny of the endless stream of "gimme gimme gimme because I want it" coming out of your own mind and mouth.

Have a nice day.
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


Econ 101. Set a price ceiling and you get shortages. Set a price floor and you get a surplus.

A surplus in the labor market means...unemployment for somebody.

In general...that somebody is low wage black youth.

Those low wage black youth either get on the dole or they make money in a different economy of their own making. Either way they are angry and frustrated. Angry and frustrated black youth means another generation of voters who aren't getting their share, are vulnerable to demagogues, and will vote as a bloc for the share from the system they were prevented from participating in.

Exactly what is intended.
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02/12/2013 11:23 PM
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Guys supply and demand sets the price. Wages do not.

Jesus that's economics 101.


I didn't see a single fucking fast food joint go out of business after the last increase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


As I pointed out just a few posts back, the largest Burger King franchise owner in the United States went bankrupt recently. do you realize the average profit margin in fast food is well I under 5 percent. Would you risk 1,000,000 dollars for a 5 percent return?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32716157


I think the margin is close to 10%, McDonald has even more...
Burger King has bad management...
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Re: Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!!
How come the $16 Minimum wage in Australia doesn't hurt their economy? I mean their unemployment rate is 4.9%

Just sayin. Fact is their economy is booming and it's doing so because wages are keeping up with inflation.

In the US where wages are stagnant you have stagnant growth.

It's pretty obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3987337


The cheapies who refuse to pay their employees a living wage are helping to send this country down the toilet. Because the old saying is true, you get what you pay for.
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02/12/2013 11:24 PM
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I am in a fast food business, and if you can not afford 9$/h for employees, it time to close the door, make some space for business who can....
 Quoting: nonothing


Thank you.. any good, aka:smart/savy, business owner can and will make this happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454


Shaddup. You don't know what you're talking about. Do you own a business?

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