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Minimum wage now $9 an hour!!!! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24895930  United States02/12/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silly dipshits are going to be jobless soon. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34296975 Oh yeah. I've lived through many raises to the fed. min wage.. and I've never lost a job due to that. Stop living in fear and listing to TPTB.. think for yourself. research... When I was born it was just above $3/hour... seems like we got through all the other raises just fine. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, because NORMALLY pay raises are given when the economy is strong, not when it is struggling. If that is the case why has it been frozen so long? Server pay of 2.13 an hour has been frozen for 20 years. If companies are making record profits why shouldn't the minimum wage be increased? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34146475 United States02/12/2013 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I swear some people are dumber than a bag of bricks when it comes to economics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34238343 If 3 workers bring in $250/hour - do you really think that after paying the 3 workers $25, that the owner pockets $225? No - because out of that $250 comes: Rent Electricity Food costs Paper costs Legal fees Fuel Costs Insurance - liability, Workers Comp Employer portion of Social Security Cleaning supplies Office supplies Pest control Business License fees Advertising Credit Card fees Franchise fees and more... After paying for these things, the average franchise owner sees about $14/hour. Hardly the "rich", right? Just middle class, as most are. If you take a small business who hires 50 people, and they have to pay $2000 more per week they will have to either A) raise the cost of the product, B) lay off employees or C) shut their doors. BIG CORPORATIONS can absorb these costs, but small businesses cannot. I am telling you know, this will be the final nail in the coffin for the economy and the end of small business. You raise minimum wage when the economy is strong, not when it is on a lifeline. Bunch of f****** idiots. You're a fucking idiot. Back in high school when I worked at McDonald's the Franchise owner drove a 100k dollar Mercedes. So sorry if I don't believe your shit. IF someone has several franchises, they were wealthy to begin with, but MOST DON'T. You can believe it or not, I don't give a damn anymore. Go ahead and burn it all down, stick it to the small business owners - they are the ones that will struggle. You'll see soon enough. I'm fucking sorry if I don't believe your shit. You are simply a liar. A greedy fucking liar. You fuckers said this same shit last time the Minimum wage was raised and guess what. There are now even more fast food restaurants. So again, sorry if I don't believe your shit. Minimum wage not livable (1.25) Raise minimum wage Minimum wage not livable (2.50) Raise minimum wage Minimum wage not livable (3.25) Raise minimum wage Minimum wage not livable (4.65) Raise minimum wage Minimum wage not livable (6.25) Raise minimum wage Minimum wage not livable (7.25) Raise minimum wage See a pattern? I suggest we go straight to $1,000,000. If that turns out not to be a "livable wage"...which it won't....then we NEVER do it again and let the market set the price of labor. I'm ready for that deal. |
4D Viewer (OP) User ID: 22500638 United States02/12/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34255546 United States02/12/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't this only with regards to federal wages? Most states do not follow the federal minimum wage. Quoting: Veresanctus States have their own rates but they have to meet AT LEAST the Federal Minimum wage. Does not seem to be true [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is true. If your state has a minimum wage, you will be subject to receive whichever is HIGHER. [link to www.laborlawcenter.com] |
| bluntfish User ID: 14872095 United States02/13/2013 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People will have more money to spend, making businesses get busier, needing more workers, if they dont want to pay benefits, then more people find jobs, who pay more taxes. Then more insurance companies boom because the law required everyone have health insurance. People become healthier, and smarter. Most people (lower and middle class) benefits in a little way. The pay raise includes plenty to cover the extra taxes, in way costing the bigger companies more.. ie: the upper class, ie: republicans. |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States02/13/2013 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silly dipshits are going to be jobless soon. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34296975 Oh yeah. I've lived through many raises to the fed. min wage.. and I've never lost a job due to that. Stop living in fear and listing to TPTB.. think for yourself. research... When I was born it was just above $3/hour... seems like we got through all the other raises just fine. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, because NORMALLY pay raises are given when the economy is strong, not when it is struggling. If that is the case why has it been frozen so long? Server pay of 2.13 an hour has been frozen for 20 years. If companies are making record profits why shouldn't the minimum wage be increased? Thank your government tax code and regulations for that. |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL so... lol if you are against raising the minimum wage you are a straight up shill and you must be crazy if you think anyone will support you. slavery, that's how the majority in this country are treated, like slaves and you would like that to continue? stop thinking about yourself and think about someone else for a change. thank you i love you:) |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States02/13/2013 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21989454 Oh yeah. I've lived through many raises to the fed. min wage.. and I've never lost a job due to that. Stop living in fear and listing to TPTB.. think for yourself. research... When I was born it was just above $3/hour... seems like we got through all the other raises just fine. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, because NORMALLY pay raises are given when the economy is strong, not when it is struggling. If that is the case why has it been frozen so long? Server pay of 2.13 an hour has been frozen for 20 years. If companies are making record profits why shouldn't the minimum wage be increased? Thank your government tax code and regulations for that. ....additionally........ "... "tipped employees" are a class of employee for which the standard federal minimum wage does not apply. Instead, employers must pay a tipped employee at least $2.13 / hour. HOWEVER, the law also states that if an employee's wage plus that employee's tips do not equal at least the standard minimum wage ... the employer must make up the difference." [link to askville.amazon.com] :googmofo: Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/13/2013 12:11 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33237816 United States02/13/2013 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to share the wealth to have successful economy people!!!! If not then you have a greater gap between economic classes. Extremely wealthy and high poverty w/ very little middle class. And that can be broken down into smaller communites as well as a larger scale. They taught this concept in grade school for crying out loud. Do you remember? To share your toys with your friends? You can't expect to have to many friends if you don't wish to share your toys. Or do you really even care about the economy...? Be honest now. |
| Kybeam User ID: 27604421 United States02/13/2013 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New elections, one six year term limits, no salary. Serve to serve your fellow citizens..............dream dream dream But, dang it, we have the numbers!    |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States02/13/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. |
| Brightwinger User ID: 34278593 United States02/13/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 Because he did't fix anything!!! It just caused things to raise in price to level out with this stupid raise in wage! You can't just pull $1.75 out of your butt and not raise the price on the goods you sell!! or can you?... Uh, no you can't! Author, inventor, disorganizer. Let's disorganize the American Cancer Society. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33237816 United States02/13/2013 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 Because he did't fix anything!!! It just caused things to raise in price to level out with this stupid raise in wage! You can't just pull $1.75 out of your butt and not raise the price on the goods you sell!! or can you?... Uh, no you can't! Not without a hit to your wallet but yes you can. But most are not willing. So the buck is passed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32060992 United States02/13/2013 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how you know we are headed toward collapse, with policies like this. You don't have to take anything else into account. This proves he is out to fuck us. Good luck everyone. When we go down so does the rest of the world. It's a matter of time now. |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. so don't buy stuff... you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground.. so your theory is to keep a poor class? lol you shills lose this game, just throw in the towel already so we can evolve... please i love you:) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34146475 United States02/13/2013 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL Quoting: Sundara so... lol if you are against raising the minimum wage you are a straight up shill and you must be crazy if you think anyone will support you. slavery, that's how the majority in this country are treated, like slaves and you would like that to continue? stop thinking about yourself and think about someone else for a change. thank you Thinking about myself? I don't have a business, or any employees. I'm against it because it is stupid bleeding-heart simplistic garbage that does not work and never has. Unskilled workers living where there is a surplus of unskilled workers will never earn a "living wage" no matter what the wage is...because that wage will be on the BOTTOM because THEY ARE UNSKILLED IN A MARKET WITH A SURPLUS OF UNSKILLED WORKERS. Increase the demand for unskilled workers...or reduce the supply of unskilled workers. Those are your two options. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34134293  Canada02/13/2013 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is he trying to run us out of business!!! If you raise one side the other would even out with it!!! The money comes from the people that buy the product and the price just rose by $1 cause of the minimum wage raise!! He does not get it!! Quoting: 4D Viewer [link to www.businessweek.com] Inflation. They've been raising prices steady, it's time somebody brought the pay up to meet it. I finished crying for those commie capitalist cocksuckers peddling their Chinese shit a long time ago. |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34146475 United States02/13/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground.. This has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with MATH. That is your fundamental flaw. You have no logic. Only emotion. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States02/13/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. so don't buy stuff... Right. I will quit eating. I will stop buying gas. I agree I will sit on my ass, which means I can't get to work, which means I won't even make minimum wage.  |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL Quoting: Sundara so... lol if you are against raising the minimum wage you are a straight up shill and you must be crazy if you think anyone will support you. slavery, that's how the majority in this country are treated, like slaves and you would like that to continue? stop thinking about yourself and think about someone else for a change. thank you Thinking about myself? I don't have a business, or any employees. I'm against it because it is stupid bleeding-heart simplistic garbage that does not work and never has. Unskilled workers living where there is a surplus of unskilled workers will never earn a "living wage" no matter what the wage is...because that wage will be on the BOTTOM because THEY ARE UNSKILLED IN A MARKET WITH A SURPLUS OF UNSKILLED WORKERS. Increase the demand for unskilled workers...or reduce the supply of unskilled workers. Those are your two options. so you are for having slavery? wtf is wrong with you? i love you:) |
| Heatseeker User ID: 26993662 United States02/13/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States02/13/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. so don't buy stuff... you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground.. so your theory is to keep a poor class? lol you shills lose this game, just throw in the towel already so we can evolve... please That's pretty amusing.....the Commie government shill calling others a shill. That's TRULY rich.   Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/13/2013 12:20 AM |
| Sundara User ID: 29286215 United States02/13/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm $7.50 an hour versus $9.00 that is about a 17% increase. How many minimum wage jobs are there in our economy, most at McDonalds, Wal Mart, Target, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432 An employers cost is mostly labor. Corporations won't pay the increase the consumer will pay the increase as they will pass they pass the cost on. I would say this will drive up prices for everything you need at least 10% once imposed on average. you can't win this argument because you have no moral high ground.. This has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with MATH. That is your fundamental flaw. You have no logic. Only emotion. emotions=spirit, yes i have emotions.. i'm working a min wage job to support my wife and two children, yes this is important. do you care? i love you:) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33237816 United States02/13/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how you know we are headed toward collapse, with policies like this. You don't have to take anything else into account. This proves he is out to fuck us. Good luck everyone. When we go down so does the rest of the world. It's a matter of time now. What a coincidence. Trees are used to produce paper money. They just keep on printing away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States02/13/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they can raise the cost of living, such as gasoline, they can raise minimum wage to help pay for it. Quoting: Heatseeker They pay for through inflation. The fed prints up trillions which goes into the banks which finally ends up in the economy driving the cost of everything you NEED up. Corporations never pay for "it" they pass the cost off onto you through higher prices. Everybody loses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34146475 United States02/13/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humans that care about other Humans are for raising the min wage. Quoting: Sundara there are families barely making it right now, borderline homeless. It wasn't "livable" at $1.25. It is not "livable" at $7.25. It will not be "livable" at $1,000,000. Your claim to superior morality is absurd. Are you opposed to raising it to $1,000,000 an hour? Why? Everyone could retire. Even the most unskilled moron could buy the greatest health care in the world as long as he worked at McDonald's for an hour. To be against that means that you are evil. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28870983 United States02/13/2013 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 United States02/13/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you guys are upset that we have a lot of people who are lazy and don't go to work, but you're also upset that people who actually hold a job and get up every day to go to work get paid more? What the fuck? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33432712 So basic economics and math isn't your strong suit either, huh? |
