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THE ONE GOD! THE FATHER VISITED JESUS IN THE EARTH AND YOU MISSED IT ALL

 
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John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
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In union.
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crowd-applause

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This scripture alone should prove to you that the father only is the one God AS HE VISITED HIS SON! But pride has blinded many of you and you walk in error.


Let us make three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for *Helias: and *wist not what he said. While he thus spake, there came a cloud and shadowed them and they feared when they were come under the cloud. And there came a voice out of the cloud saying:

This is my dear son, hear him.
And as soon as the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close: and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Wow! I never really stopped to think about it that way. Wow! I am going to meditate on that...
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clappa

yes we all should!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TIME TO NOTICE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER THE FATHER OF YEHSHIYEH?

:M,JJK,J:

How he made provision for you and you pay him no honor.He
is on the back burner of christian doctrine and it should not be so! Our God is to be exalted and remembered as yehshiye[Jesus}taught!

All the events surrounding your salvation was because The Father of All found it fit to give up a son that you be saved.That is why the old testament says he is the only savior because he decided to redeem his children by scarificing his own that you may have life.

Did not Jesus ask you to honor the father ? When you pray he said "Our father" not him but the father because he was teaching the disciples in his time how to pray like he did.


Now I show you how great the father is and how often the churches ignore his efforts and his majesty.Look at the verses below,everybody is always trying to figure out the transfiguration and all these sermons on this and the one thing they never did was to acknowledge the most inspiring thing.There is always discussion about Moses and Elisha and the witnesses and you miss the bigger picture

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LUKE CHAPTER 9 VERSE 34-38

And it chanced as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus: Master, it is good being here for us:

Let us make three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for *Helias: and *wist not what he said. While he thus spake, there came a cloud and shadowed them and they feared when they were come under the cloud. And there came a voice out of the cloud saying:

This is my dear son, hear him.
And as soon as the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close: and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.


Yes Jesus had a visitation direct from the father himself because his habitations are the clouds of heaven and this been written in your bibles all over.I will prove it

Job 22:14
Thick clouds [are] a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven


Psa 104:3
Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind


Psa 18:11
He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the skies.



*MOST OF ALL AS IT RELATES EVEN MORE TO MARK CHAPTER 9*

Psa 68:33

To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, [which were] of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, [and that] a mighty voice.

Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency [is] over Israel, and his strength [is] in the clouds.

O God, [thou art] terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel [is] he that giveth strength and power unto [his] people. Blessed [be] God.

Acknowledge the Holy Father and creator the one God! There is no other in earth and in heaven.Jesus is not God ass you see for the father visited him even on this earth to prove to you as he said "this is my beloved son hear him"
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This is very Kool. clappa
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Way cool
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Good to read your threads...As always!
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Good to read your threads...As always!
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hey how are you? Always good to hear from you
yjghf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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yehshiyeh speaking

mark chp 10
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
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Jesus also said:

I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
(John 10:11)

Why does He call Himself good?
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He is referring to the fact that he is not a false prophet and will direct his sheep in truth.This is whata good shepherd does he will not leave his sheep for the wolves and run away

There were false religious doctrines going on like now where men were bending the truth to follow traditional teachings of men
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Great job Neim.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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...



yehshiyeh speaking

mark chp 10
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Jesus also said:

I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
(John 10:11)

Why does He call Himself good?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8277387


He is referring to the fact that he is not a false prophet and will direct his sheep in truth.This is whata good shepherd does he will not leave his sheep for the wolves and run away

There were false religious doctrines going on like now where men were bending the truth to follow traditional teachings of men
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



Great job Neim.
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hey brother ..how are you today and thank you as usual.

I was reading lastnight and like the father said in my heart have you not seen how they forgot me?

I was lead right back to that passage so I posted it
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Good to read your threads...As always!
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hey how are you? Always good to hear from you
:yjghf:
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Doing well...Do wish the dreams would take a night off...lol
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Good to read your threads...As always!
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hey how are you? Always good to hear from you
yjghf
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Doing well...Do wish the dreams would take a night off...lol
 Quoting: Settle4It


hf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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One can easilly recognise ppl who know their Bible by their not believing in Holy Trinity of God.

Only the Father is God.
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One can easilly recognise ppl who know their Bible by their not believing in Holy Trinity of God.

Only the Father is God.
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They are babies with twisted parental teachings and wants to eat meat before they can digest the basic milk

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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you are Blessed in seeing this!

Keep praising Him!

He is all we are need and ever will have.

So glad to see this posting

our Heavenly Father will give glory to His only Son for His obediance!

Jeshuah did everything the Father asked Him to do that is why He is worthy of GOD glorifying the Son. Jeshuah never said worship me but follow me as a good shepherd. He is our King.

Humans wanted a human King and Jesus is it created by the Father. He gave His life for the Father and for us all. Now that's obediance andhonor to almighty God. Jeshuah laid down all power and did as He was told.

Thanks for your post! GOD is so great!
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you are Blessed in seeing this!

Keep praising Him!

He is all we are need and ever will have.

So glad to see this posting

our Heavenly Father will give glory to His only Son for His obediance!

Jeshuah did everything the Father asked Him to do that is why He is worthy of GOD glorifying the Son. Jeshuah never said worship me but follow me as a good shepherd. He is our King.

Humans wanted a human King and Jesus is it created by the Father. He gave His life for the Father and for us all. Now that's obediance andhonor to almighty God. Jeshuah laid down all power and did as He was told.

Thanks for your post! GOD is so great!
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you are most welcome anytime and I love you dearlyhf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Deut 6:4

30
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Deut 6:5

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Lev 19:18 Matt 5:43 Matt 19:19 Matt 22:39 Rom 13:9 Gal 5:14 Jam 2:8

32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
1 Sam 15:22

34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

*

Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination. But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
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the above post is mine....i forgot to log in.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

*

Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination.
VERY WRONG!

But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

*

Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination.
VERY WRONG!

But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24946868

 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

well, don't lose the message in a couple of words that he admits is his opinion. And the the part about being in His imagination was his take from the reading of Enoch. Again, opinion, but we ALL have opinions. None of us have 100% knowledge. It's why I like to listen to everybody, cause everybody knows a little.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

*

Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination.
VERY WRONG!

But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
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well, don't lose the message in a couple of words that he admits is his opinion. And the the part about being in His imagination was his take from the reading of Enoch. Again, opinion, but we ALL have opinions. None of us have 100% knowledge. It's why I like to listen to everybody, cause everybody knows a little.
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This topic really is not an opinion of a friend but facts,The father created us in his own image period

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I love the smell of Truth in the morning.

Smells like, Victory!
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Hey how things with you? Good to see you
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Everything is just perfect!

I see you have a few more ears open than usual in this thread.

Makes for a good morning to rejoice.

God bless you always my friend.
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Have you the strength to break them?
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I love the smell of Truth in the morning.

Smells like, Victory!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Hey how things with you? Good to see you
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Everything is just perfect!

I see you have a few more ears open than usual in this thread.

Makes for a good morning to rejoice.

God bless you always my friend.
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Persistence perseverence patience and petition that eyes will be opened and hearts will hear.

I am doing good thanks
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

*

Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination.
VERY WRONG!

But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24946868

 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

well, don't lose the message in a couple of words that he admits is his opinion. And the the part about being in His imagination was his take from the reading of Enoch. Again, opinion, but we ALL have opinions. None of us have 100% knowledge. It's why I like to listen to everybody, cause everybody knows a little.
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This topic really is not an opinion of a friend but facts,The father created us in his own image period
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Sorry, I just wanted to share what I thought was an intersting read..... I'll leave you alone.
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well, don't lose the message in a couple of words that he admits is his opinion. And the the part about being in His imagination was his take from the reading of Enoch. Again, opinion, but we ALL have opinions. None of us have 100% knowledge. It's why I like to listen to everybody, cause everybody knows a little.
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This topic really is not an opinion of a friend but facts,The father created us in his own image period
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Sorry, I just wanted to share what I thought was an intersting read..... I'll leave you alone.
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I am just saying that it was an opinion which is innacurate and a statemnet that needed to be addressed. If you think you should leave I cannot stop you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This scripture alone should prove to you that the father only is the one God AS HE VISITED HIS SON! But pride has blinded many of you and you walk in error.
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Not pride but in scripture. I simply don't just believe because others say it or even because pastors or men in high regards believe it.


But because I myself have studied and understood scripture.

It's not right to accept scripture that just shows separation and ignore the ones that show connection of being one in same.


And if you argue its just a union or connection of a father and his son type family. Same thing to me and that just means your playing semantics........word games.

For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.

Matt 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying , All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Also here is a question to you. In revelation an Angel corrected a human for kneeling towards him.

Notice the disciples kneel to worship many times throughout the scriptures at Jesus Christ himself. Never once did Jesus correct them for false worship like the Angel did.

I'm sure you'll just say this is allowed to do so by the Father. But then that means are worshiping two by your logic. But by connection/union we are just worshiping one.
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29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Deut 6:4

30
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Deut 6:5

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Lev 19:18 Matt 5:43 Matt 19:19 Matt 22:39 Rom 13:9 Gal 5:14 Jam 2:8

32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
1 Sam 15:22

34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
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THHH!! THHH! THHIISSS!

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
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Not in the Hell though. Hint.
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
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Not in the Hell though. Hint.
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24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

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And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
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Not in the Hell though. Hint.
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24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

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And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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Yup, I am not telling anything else. Agreed.
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
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Not in the Hell though. Hint.
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24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Ps 110:1 Matt 22:44 Luke 20:43 Acts 2:34 Heb 1:13

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Psa 8:6 Eph 1:22 Heb 2:8

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And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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Yup, I am not telling anything else. Agreed.
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yep I know just reinforcing what you indicated I know you are a wise one...lol
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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