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THE ONE GOD! THE FATHER VISITED JESUS IN THE EARTH AND YOU MISSED IT ALL

 
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
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Not in the Hell though. Hint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Who decides at the end who goes there. Hint. Hint.

Roman 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Revelation 22:12-16

"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


Not in the Hell though. Hint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Who decides at the end who goes there. Hint. Hint.

Roman 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Revelation 22:12-16

"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


Figure out first who is speaking there, an another hint:

1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John Revelation 1
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I am just saying that it was an opinion which is innacurate and a statemnet that needed to be addressed. If you think you should leave I cannot stop you.
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Well, it is your opinion that his opinion is inaccurate. I know you quoted scripture that we are made in His image, and therefore are not a figment of imagination, but you are not taking into consideration the context of Enoch he was referring to.

Whatever. Here's the post without that comment so as not to detract from the point being made.
*
Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
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The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.
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Wrong.

John 7:16 Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.

49For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. 50I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say. John 12

3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17



TURN AROUND, don´t go that way of your destruction any longer.
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For the son of man has been given "all" power/authority on heaven and earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


Not in the Hell though. Hint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Who decides at the end who goes there. Hint. Hint.

Roman 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Revelation 22:12-16

"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


Figure out first who is speaking there, an another hint:

1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John Revelation 1
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Good accept God scripture but in that scripture its states, "I, Jesus,.


Notice most bibles also put all colored words to assist on what Jesus spoke. Hint, Hint.


Roman 2:16
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.
ACTS 5:30-32

This is the manifestation that paul experienced and spoke of when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?

NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.
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Wrong.

John 7:16 Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.

49For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. 50I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say. John 12

3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17



TURN AROUND, don´t go that way of your destruction any longer.
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Yes again semantics. Believe in Jesus then you believe in the Father. One in the same.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
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This I already knew. For the Lord says : " Study to show thyself approved!"
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The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


Wrong.

John 7:16 Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.

49For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. 50I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say. John 12

3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17



TURN AROUND, don´t go that way of your destruction any longer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Yes again semantics. Believe in Jesus then you believe in the Father. One in the same.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
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No semantics. The only Saviour is Jesus´ Father, not the Messiah who is "just" the Ransom.

Get your facts straight.
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.
ACTS 5:30-32

This is the manifestation that paul experienced and spoke of when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?

NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

That is crystal clear brother and understood. Thank you. bump
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This I already knew. For the Lord says : " Study to show thyself approved!"
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BLESS YOUR HEART GENTLE SHEEP!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Can you plz tell me what your opinion is on Kabala?
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.

Thsi the manesfestation that paul experinced when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?
NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Believe in me or a disciple does not matter.

Believe in Jesus Christ and that "is" what matters.

You can play semantics all you like but it does not change the fact that Jesus never correct them for worshiping him.


Matt 28:9
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.

For many things did Christ correct but never did he correct them for worshiping him.

The angel did correct him for worshiping him(the angel)
Rev 22:9
But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
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Can you plz tell me what your opinion is on Kabala?
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KABALA

Is an old babylonian form of worship mixed with the hebrew teachings is is all magic and withcraft and zodiac related.

Do not mess with tht stuff it is also the foundation for freemasonary which is just a lower level.Judaism the religion is based on this concept.Check your talmud and you will see where it all goes.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.

Thsi the manesfestation that paul experinced when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?
NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Believe in me or a disciple does not matter.

Believe in Jesus Christ and that "is" what matters.

You can play semantics all you like but it does not change the fact that Jesus never correct them for worshiping him.


Matt 28:9
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.

For many things did Christ correct but never did he correct them for worshiping him.

The angel did correct him for worshiping him(the angel)
Rev 22:9
But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


So are the disciples worshiping Jesus, God or both?

You can't have one way and ignore the other.
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.

Thsi the manesfestation that paul experinced when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?
NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Believe in me or a disciple does not matter.

Believe in Jesus Christ and that "is" what matters.

You can play semantics all you like but it does not change the fact that Jesus never correct them for worshiping him.


Matt 28:9
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.

For many things did Christ correct but never did he correct them for worshiping him.

The angel did correct him for worshiping him(the angel)
Rev 22:9
But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851



Keep your philosophies and traditions of the gentile out of the works .You been trained a gentile to disreagrd what the father says and the messiahs says.


Semantics (from Greek: sēmantikós)[1][2] is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, signs, and symbols, and what they stand for, their denotata.

Linguistic semantics is the study of meaning that is used for understanding human expression through language. Other forms of semantics include the semantics of programming languages, formal logics, and semiotics.

The word semantics itself denotes a range of ideas, from the popular to the highly technical. It is often used in ordinary language for denoting a problem of understanding that comes down to word selection or connotation.

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I'm going to put this blunt. Believe in the trinity of one of the same.

Or believe in some hierarchy of the three or some union or connection. This is a moot point to split up Christians.


The point is believe in Jesus Christ alone.(For in doing so you believe the one that sent him.) But to try and believe in the Father.....without believing in the Son. Will get you no where.

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.



This semantics argument of word games does not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851


meaning he is the word of the =father and is only by obeying the word that is the only access to the father.
Chist is the living word and he came to bear witness of the father.

Why will he take residence in a believer because when you put on the word you are putting him in your inner being. and the holy spirit bears witness because of obedience.

Thsi the manesfestation that paul experinced when he said christ was manifest in him..Did it mean that paul was GOD or christ?
NO!

WHEN MESSIAH PRAYED HE PRAYED FOR THE DISCIPLES THAT THEY MAY BE ONE WITH HIM AND THE FATHER AS HE IS ONE WITH THE FATHER..THAT IS THE UNION! DID IT MEAN THAT THE APOSTLES WERE NOW GOD?

NO!!!

Read and pray and ask for understanding of the word and put aside your religious traditional false teachings of the word
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Believe in me or a disciple does not matter.

Believe in Jesus Christ and that "is" what matters.

You can play semantics all you like but it does not change the fact that Jesus never correct them for worshiping him.


Matt 28:9
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.

For many things did Christ correct but never did he correct them for worshiping him.

The angel did correct him for worshiping him(the angel)
Rev 22:9
But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
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Keep your philosophies and traditions of the gentile out of the works .You been trained a gentile to disreagrd what the father says and the messiahs says.


Semantics (from Greek: sēmantikós)[1][2] is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, signs, and symbols, and what they stand for, their denotata.

Linguistic semantics is the study of meaning that is used for understanding human expression through language. Other forms of semantics include the semantics of programming languages, formal logics, and semiotics.

The word semantics itself denotes a range of ideas, from the popular to the highly technical. It is often used in ordinary language for denoting a problem of understanding that comes down to word selection or connotation.

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In truth this is what I believe your doing. Word games.
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Ah, SHADDAAPPPP!
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Can you plz tell me what your opinion is on Kabala?
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KABALA

Is an old babylonian form of worship mixed with the hebrew teachings is is all magic and withcraft and zodiac related.

Do not mess with tht stuff it is also the foundation for freemasonary which is just a lower level.Judaism the religion is based on this concept.Check your talmud and you will see where it all goes.
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Hallelujah!!!! I figured this was your position on it...but i wanted to make sure!! Test the spirits, Amen.
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
We will pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
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Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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Well, then how on earth did people worship the Father prior to Jesus' coming?
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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Well, then how on earth did people worship the Father prior to Jesus' coming?
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prior to messiah they had high priests and prophets who taught them the laws and commands,They prayed directly
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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hf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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Well, then how on earth did people worship the Father prior to Jesus' coming?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24946868


Many ways of worship through love, trust, serving his will. Keeping his commandments. Sacrificing a animal for your sin. Worshiping God at his temple etc etc.
You've never read the old testament? There are some incredible stories in the old testament. Job, David, Esther, Moses, among many others.
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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Well, then how on earth did people worship the Father prior to Jesus' coming?
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prior to messiah they had high priests and prophets who taught them the laws and commands,They prayed directly
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The bolded part was the point I wanted to make.....There are many accounts where they prayed directly to the Father without the need for priests or prophets.
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There are many gods who are worshipped. You will even find many gods in the old and new testament. But there is only one God who has any real power.
 Quoting: Sword of mercy


Agreed only one through Jesus Christ.

Amen.
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Well, then how on earth did people worship the Father prior to Jesus' coming?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24946868


Many ways of worship through love, trust, serving his will. Keeping his commandments. Sacrificing a animal for your sin. Worshiping God at his temple etc etc.
You've never read the old testament? There are some incredible stories in the old testament. Job, David, Esther, Moses, among many others.
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oops, we posted at the same time. See my post below yours above.
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hf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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