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| Neim-Ya'shar Offer Upgrade  User ID: 34258256  United States02/12/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TIME TO NOTICE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER THE FATHER OF YEHSHIYEH?  How he made provision for you and you pay him no honor.He is on the back burner of christian doctrine and it should not be so! Our God is to be exalted and remembered as yehshiye[Jesus}taught! All the events surrounding your salvation was because The Father of All found it fit to give up a son that you be saved.That is why the old testament says he is the only savior because he decided to redeem his children by scarificing his own that you may have life. Did not Jesus ask you to honor the father ? When you pray he said "Our father" not him but the father because he was teaching the disciples in his time how to pray like he did. Now I show you how great the father is and how often the churches ignore his efforts and his majesty.Look at the verses below,everybody is always trying to figure out the transfiguration and all these sermons on this and the one thing they never did was to acknowledge the most inspiring thing.There is always discussion about Moses and Elisha and the witnesses and you miss the bigger picture  LUKE CHAPTER 9 VERSE 34-38 And it chanced as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus: Master, it is good being here for us: Let us make three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for *Helias: and *wist not what he said. While he thus spake, there came a cloud and shadowed them and they feared when they were come under the cloud. And there came a voice out of the cloud saying: This is my dear son, hear him. And as soon as the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close: and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. Yes Jesus had a visitation direct from the father himself because his habitations are the clouds of heaven and this been written in your bibles all over.I will prove it Job 22:14 Thick clouds [are] a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven Psa 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind Psa 18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the skies. *MOST OF ALL AS IT RELATES EVEN MORE TO MARK CHAPTER 9* Psa 68:33 To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, [which were] of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, [and that] a mighty voice. Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency [is] over Israel, and his strength [is] in the clouds. O God, [thou art] terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel [is] he that giveth strength and power unto [his] people. Blessed [be] God. Acknowledge the Holy Father and creator the one God! There is no other in earth and in heaven.Jesus is not God ass you see for the father visited him even on this earth to prove to you as he said "this is my beloved son hear him" Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/13/2013 09:08 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/12/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I never really stopped to think about it that way. Wow! I am going to meditate on that... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588 That is because the churhes are programmed to keep you away from acknowledging the father and make jesus God himself 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/12/2013 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking up the meaning of over shadowed or shadowed you will see that this was very close to them above their heads.. This was in the night also,so think about it 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26244997 United States02/12/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking up the meaning of over shadowed or shadowed you will see that this was very close to them above their heads.. This was in the night also,so think about it Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Matthew 9:2-6,Mark 2:3-12 Jesus ... said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth ... That ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,(then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us. John 5:16-18 Therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 10:30-31 I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. John 10:38-39 The Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him. John 14:9 He that hath seen me hath seen the Father. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Colossians 1:16 For by him [Jesus] were all things created. Colossians 2:9 For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 1 Timothy 3:16 God was made manifest in the flesh. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Revelation 1:17 Fear not; I am the first and the last. Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26244997 United States02/12/2013 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I never really stopped to think about it that way. Wow! I am going to meditate on that... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588 That is because the churhes are programmed to keep you away from acknowledging the father and make jesus God himself Your father is the father of lies. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13186796 United States02/12/2013 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TIME TO NOTICE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER THE FATHER OF YEHSHIYEH? Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar :M,JJK,J: How he made provision for you and you pay him no honor.He is on the back burner of christian doctrine and it should not be so! Our God is to be exalted and remembered as yehshiye[Jesus}taught! All the events surrounding your salvation was because The Father of All found it fit to give up a son that you be saved.That is why the old testament says he is the only savior because he decided to redeem his children by scarificing his own that you may have life. Did not Jesus ask you to honor the father ? When you pray he said "Our father" not him but the father because he was teaching the disciples in his time how to pray like he did. Now I show you how great the father is and how often the churches ignore his efforts and his majesty.Look at the verses below,everybody is always trying to figure out the transfiguration and all these sermons on this and the one thing they never did was to acknowledge the most inspiring thing.There is always discussion about Moses and Elisha and the witnesses and you miss the bigger picture :NMNHN: LUKE CHAPTER 9 VERSE 34-38 And it chanced as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus: Master, it is good being here for us: Let us make three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for *Helias: and *wist not what he said. While he thus spake, there came a cloud and shadowed them and they feared when they were come under the cloud. And there came a voice out of the cloud saying: This is my dear son, hear him. And as soon as the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close: and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. Yes Jesus had a visitation direct from the father himself because his habitations are the clouds of heaven and this been written in your bibles all over.I will prove it Job 22:14 Thick clouds [are] a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven Psa 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind Psa 18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the skies. *MOST OF ALL AS IT RELATES EVEN MORE TO MARK CHAPTER 9* Psa 68:33 To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, [which were] of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, [and that] a mighty voice. Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency [is] over Israel, and his strength [is] in the clouds. O God, [thou art] terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel [is] he that giveth strength and power unto [his] people. Blessed [be] God. Acknowledge the Holy Father and creator the one God! There is no other in earth and in heaven.Jesus is not God ass you see for the father visited him even on this earth to prove to you as he said "this is my beloved son hear him" This is very Kool.  |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/12/2013 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I never really stopped to think about it that way. Wow! I am going to meditate on that... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588 That is because the churhes are programmed to keep you away from acknowledging the father and make jesus God himself Your father is the father of lies. You have a good night! I had this waiting just for you However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 14:28 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. rev chapter 19 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship God[the father]: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy **THE ANSWER IS THIS*** MANY OF YOU DON'T STUDY YOUR SCRIPTURE BUT LOVE TO ARGUE THAT WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE HARD WORK OF SEARCHING OUT THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF AND GIVEN IT TO YOU ON A TRAY WITH MUCH LOVE. **THIS IS JESUS PROCLAIMING TO THE ISRAELITES THE ORDER OF THE HEaVeNLIES** 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING THAT THE FATHER IS IN HEAVEN AND IS THE ONLY FATHER" 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING HE IS LORD OVER US" "Lord is master" "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28 Divine – can someone be divine and not be God Himself? The answer is yes. [link to www.thefreedictionary.com] [link to ardictionary.com] - What does divine mean? 1. a. Having the nature of, OR being a deity. b. Of, relating to, emanating from, or being the expression of a deity c. Being in the service or worship of a deity; sacred. 2. Superhuman; godlike. 3. a. Supremely good or beautiful; magnificent b. Extremely pleasant; delightful 4. Heavenly; perfect. 5. Of, or belonging to God 6. proceeding from God - Lord – someone who “owns” us – we are his possession. Also a king and husband. A man of high rank in a feudal society or in one that retains feudal forms and institutions, especially: a. A king. b. A territorial magnate. c. The proprietor of a manor. Landowner, property owner. d. A man of renowned power or authority. e. A man who has mastery in a given field or activity. f. Archaic -The male head of a household. g. Archaic- A husband. – A Hebrew custom for a wife to call her husband Lord. The scriptures that describe Jesus and His relationship with His Father God– Look for the obvious patterns – let us keep things simple…….God is not the author of confusion. The relationship is well described. It is NOT a “mystery.” Are God and Jesus the same person? Are they equal? Who does Jesus say He is? Who is God? - Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice [God’s] out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. *** The speaker is God. He is calling Jesus his son. There are 2 persons here. - Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life *** If there is a father, and he has a son, there are 2 people. - Jhn 3:35 The Father loves the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. Jhn 4:34 Jesus said unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish His work. ****Jesus is obedient and subservient to God. - Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. ***Jesus has no power on His own. He submits to the Father, who has the power. - Jhn 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.Jhn 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. ***God -the Father- is the sender of the bread from heaven. Jesus is the bread. - Jhn 6:38 [Jesus speaking] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. ***Jesus is sent by the Father in heaven. The one who sends is greater than the one sent. So they are NOT equal. - Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God [the Father]; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.*** God is the Father. Jesus is sent by God the Father. - Jhn 10:36 [Jesus speaking] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemed; because I said, I am the Son of God? *** Jesus is saying He is divine, because God is His Father. However, He is NOT saying that He IS God. Jesus is divine, because His Father is divine, just like you are human because your father is human. However, Jesus is NOT his Father, who is God. There is only one God. - Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jhn 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. *** Jesus gets His words from his Father - Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him. *** Jesus and the Father are two different people. They are not the same person. - Jhn 17:1 These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Jhn 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee [Father] the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. *** The only true God is the Father. Jesus is just who God sent. - Jhn 20:17 Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Rom 1:3 Concerning his [God’s] Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh *** “Lord” is a title which means owner. We belong to Jesus, if he is our Lord. And Jesus is God’s son. - Rom 1:4 And declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. *** It does not say “Jesus, our God.” It only says Jesus is Lord. He is Lord because He is God’s Son. - 1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. *** Jesus can be Lord without being God. It does not say, “there is but one God, who is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.” - 2Cr 1:2 Grace [be] to you and peace from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - 2Cr 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; *** It does NOT say “the God, Jesus Christ.” - Gal 1:3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 6:23 Peace [be] to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 3:9 And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ - Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ -Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all *** The Father is God. - Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name **** Jesus is the image of God, and He is divine, but he set this aside to obey His Father God. He was in a “lower” position to begin with, and God exalted him. So he was not originally “equal” with God, if he had to be exalted. God is already exalted. - Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:15 Who [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature *** Jesus is the image of God, as he reflects God’s glory to man. - Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God ***There are 2 seats, not one, Jesus sits on the right side of God in heaven. This means they are not the same person. - 1Th 3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you ***God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 2Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting consolation and good hope through grace God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus God is the Father, the son is Jesus Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hbr 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they Hbr 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? The Son was “made” better than the angels, as the image of the Father. Once he did the work of purging us of our sins, THEN he sat on the right hand of the Father. That means he did not have that exalted position BEFORE he came to earth and sacrificed Himself. - 1Pe 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus 2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus Rev 2:26 And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, to him will I [Jesus] give power over the nations: Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Jesus received the power from the Father and then will give it to us. They are not equal in power. Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals Rev 5:5 And one of the elders said unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof *** God is the one on the throne who has the book of seals. The lion of Judah (Jesus) is qualified to open the book. Jesus does not sit on the throne. Only God sits there. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 20 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. And Jesus did not correct Thomas for that. Case closed. that was thomas You have a good night! I had this waiting just for you However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 14:28 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. rev chapter 19 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship God[the father]: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy **THE ANSWER IS THIS*** MANY OF YOU DON'T STUDY YOUR SCRIPTURE BUT LOVE TO ARGUE THAT WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE HARD WORK OF SEARCHING OUT THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF AND GIVEN IT TO YOU ON A TRAY WITH MUCH LOVE. **THIS IS JESUS PROCLAIMING TO THE ISRAELITES THE ORDER OF THE HEaVeNLIES** 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING THAT THE FATHER IS IN HEAVEN AND IS THE ONLY FATHER" 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING HE IS LORD OVER US" "Lord is master" "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28 Divine – can someone be divine and not be God Himself? The answer is yes. [link to www.thefreedictionary.com] [link to ardictionary.com] - What does divine mean? 1. a. Having the nature of, OR being a deity. b. Of, relating to, emanating from, or being the expression of a deity c. Being in the service or worship of a deity; sacred. 2. Superhuman; godlike. 3. a. Supremely good or beautiful; magnificent b. Extremely pleasant; delightful 4. Heavenly; perfect. 5. Of, or belonging to God 6. proceeding from God - Lord – someone who “owns” us – we are his possession. Also a king and husband. A man of high rank in a feudal society or in one that retains feudal forms and institutions, especially: a. A king. b. A territorial magnate. c. The proprietor of a manor. Landowner, property owner. d. A man of renowned power or authority. e. A man who has mastery in a given field or activity. f. Archaic -The male head of a household. g. Archaic- A husband. – A Hebrew custom for a wife to call her husband Lord. The scriptures that describe Jesus and His relationship with His Father God– Look for the obvious patterns – let us keep things simple…….God is not the author of confusion. The relationship is well described. It is NOT a “mystery.” Are God and Jesus the same person? Are they equal? Who does Jesus say He is? Who is God? - Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice [God’s] out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. *** The speaker is God. He is calling Jesus his son. There are 2 persons here. - Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life *** If there is a father, and he has a son, there are 2 people. - Jhn 3:35 The Father loves the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. Jhn 4:34 Jesus said unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish His work. ****Jesus is obedient and subservient to God. - Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. ***Jesus has no power on His own. He submits to the Father, who has the power. - Jhn 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.Jhn 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. ***God -the Father- is the sender of the bread from heaven. Jesus is the bread. - Jhn 6:38 [Jesus speaking] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. ***Jesus is sent by the Father in heaven. The one who sends is greater than the one sent. So they are NOT equal. - Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God [the Father]; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.*** God is the Father. Jesus is sent by God the Father. - Jhn 10:36 [Jesus speaking] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemed; because I said, I am the Son of God? *** Jesus is saying He is divine, because God is His Father. However, He is NOT saying that He IS God. Jesus is divine, because His Father is divine, just like you are human because your father is human. However, Jesus is NOT his Father, who is God. There is only one God. - Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jhn 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. *** Jesus gets His words from his Father - Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him. *** Jesus and the Father are two different people. They are not the same person. - Jhn 17:1 These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Jhn 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee [Father] the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. *** The only true God is the Father. Jesus is just who God sent. - Jhn 20:17 Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Rom 1:3 Concerning his [God’s] Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh *** “Lord” is a title which means owner. We belong to Jesus, if he is our Lord. And Jesus is God’s son. - Rom 1:4 And declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. *** It does not say “Jesus, our God.” It only says Jesus is Lord. He is Lord because He is God’s Son. - 1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. *** Jesus can be Lord without being God. It does not say, “there is but one God, who is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.” - 2Cr 1:2 Grace [be] to you and peace from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - 2Cr 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; *** It does NOT say “the God, Jesus Christ.” - Gal 1:3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 6:23 Peace [be] to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 3:9 And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ - Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ -Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all *** The Father is God. - Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name **** Jesus is the image of God, and He is divine, but he set this aside to obey His Father God. He was in a “lower” position to begin with, and God exalted him. So he was not originally “equal” with God, if he had to be exalted. God is already exalted. - Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:15 Who [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature *** Jesus is the image of God, as he reflects God’s glory to man. - Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God ***There are 2 seats, not one, Jesus sits on the right side of God in heaven. This means they are not the same person. - 1Th 3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you ***God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 2Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting consolation and good hope through grace God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus God is the Father, the son is Jesus Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hbr 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they Hbr 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? The Son was “made” better than the angels, as the image of the Father. Once he did the work of purging us of our sins, THEN he sat on the right hand of the Father. That means he did not have that exalted position BEFORE he came to earth and sacrificed Himself. - 1Pe 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus 2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus Rev 2:26 And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, to him will I [Jesus] give power over the nations: Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Jesus received the power from the Father and then will give it to us. They are not equal in power. Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals Rev 5:5 And one of the elders said unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof *** God is the one on the throne who has the book of seals. The lion of Judah (Jesus) is qualified to open the book. Jesus does not sit on the throne. Only God sits there. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8277387  Australia02/13/2013 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acknowledge the Holy Father and creator the one God! There is no other in earth and in heaven.Jesus is not God ass you see for the father visited him even on this earth to prove to you as he said"this is my beloved son hear him" Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Jesus is God, just like the bible says: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. -- Hebrews 1:8 And the bible also says that Jesus is the Saviour: But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel: -- 2 Timothy 1:10 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. -- 2 Peter 1:11 Christians, just go with what the bible says. Jesus Christ is God, Lord, and Saviour. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States02/13/2013 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2:6 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 THE PLAIN WORDS OF SCRIPTURE, WITH NO 'DOCTRINES OF MEN' TO TWIST THEM. Philippians 2:5, 6: KJ reads: “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.” (Dy has the same wording. JB reads: “he did not cling to his equality with God.”) However, in NW the latter portion of that passage reads: “who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure [Greek, har·pag·mon′], namely, that he should be equal to God.” (RS, NE, TEV, NAB convey the same thought.) Which thought agrees with the context? Php 2 Verse 5 counsels Christians to imitate Christ in the matter here being discussed. Could they be urged to consider it “not robbery,” but their right, “to be equal with God”? Surely not! However, they can imitate one who “gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (NW) (Compare Genesis 3:5.) Such a translation also agrees with Jesus Christ himself, who said: “The Father is greater than I.”—John 14:28. The Expositor’s Greek Testament says: “We cannot find any passage where [har·pa′zo] or any of its derivatives [including har·pag·mon′] has the sense of ‘holding in possession,’ ‘retaining’. It seems invariably to mean ‘seize,’ ‘snatch violently’. Thus it is not permissible to glide from the true sense ‘grasp at’ into one which is totally different, ‘hold fast.’”—(Grand Rapids, Mich.; 1967), edited by W. Robertson Nicoll, Vol. III, pp. 436, 437. [link to wol.jw.org] |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 20 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. And Jesus did not correct Thomas for that. Case closed. that was thomas You have a good night! I had this waiting just for you However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 14:28 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. rev chapter 19 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship God[the father]: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy **THE ANSWER IS THIS*** MANY OF YOU DON'T STUDY YOUR SCRIPTURE BUT LOVE TO ARGUE THAT WHICH YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE HARD WORK OF SEARCHING OUT THE SCRIPTURES FOR YOURSELF AND GIVEN IT TO YOU ON A TRAY WITH MUCH LOVE. **THIS IS JESUS PROCLAIMING TO THE ISRAELITES THE ORDER OF THE HEaVeNLIES** 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING THAT THE FATHER IS IN HEAVEN AND IS THE ONLY FATHER" 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ."MESSIAH IS CONFIRMING HE IS LORD OVER US" "Lord is master" "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater (meizon) than I." John 14:28 Divine – can someone be divine and not be God Himself? The answer is yes. [link to www.thefreedictionary.com] [link to ardictionary.com] - What does divine mean? 1. a. Having the nature of, OR being a deity. b. Of, relating to, emanating from, or being the expression of a deity c. Being in the service or worship of a deity; sacred. 2. Superhuman; godlike. 3. a. Supremely good or beautiful; magnificent b. Extremely pleasant; delightful 4. Heavenly; perfect. 5. Of, or belonging to God 6. proceeding from God - Lord – someone who “owns” us – we are his possession. Also a king and husband. A man of high rank in a feudal society or in one that retains feudal forms and institutions, especially: a. A king. b. A territorial magnate. c. The proprietor of a manor. Landowner, property owner. d. A man of renowned power or authority. e. A man who has mastery in a given field or activity. f. Archaic -The male head of a household. g. Archaic- A husband. – A Hebrew custom for a wife to call her husband Lord. The scriptures that describe Jesus and His relationship with His Father God– Look for the obvious patterns – let us keep things simple…….God is not the author of confusion. The relationship is well described. It is NOT a “mystery.” Are God and Jesus the same person? Are they equal? Who does Jesus say He is? Who is God? - Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice [God’s] out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. *** The speaker is God. He is calling Jesus his son. There are 2 persons here. - Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life *** If there is a father, and he has a son, there are 2 people. - Jhn 3:35 The Father loves the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. Jhn 4:34 Jesus said unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish His work. ****Jesus is obedient and subservient to God. - Jhn 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. ***Jesus has no power on His own. He submits to the Father, who has the power. - Jhn 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.Jhn 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. ***God -the Father- is the sender of the bread from heaven. Jesus is the bread. - Jhn 6:38 [Jesus speaking] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. ***Jesus is sent by the Father in heaven. The one who sends is greater than the one sent. So they are NOT equal. - Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God [the Father]; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.*** God is the Father. Jesus is sent by God the Father. - Jhn 10:36 [Jesus speaking] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemed; because I said, I am the Son of God? *** Jesus is saying He is divine, because God is His Father. However, He is NOT saying that He IS God. Jesus is divine, because His Father is divine, just like you are human because your father is human. However, Jesus is NOT his Father, who is God. There is only one God. - Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jhn 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. *** Jesus gets His words from his Father - Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him. *** Jesus and the Father are two different people. They are not the same person. - Jhn 17:1 These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Jhn 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee [Father] the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. *** The only true God is the Father. Jesus is just who God sent. - Jhn 20:17 Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Rom 1:3 Concerning his [God’s] Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh *** “Lord” is a title which means owner. We belong to Jesus, if he is our Lord. And Jesus is God’s son. - Rom 1:4 And declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. *** It does not say “Jesus, our God.” It only says Jesus is Lord. He is Lord because He is God’s Son. - 1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. *** Jesus can be Lord without being God. It does not say, “there is but one God, who is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.” - 2Cr 1:2 Grace [be] to you and peace from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - 2Cr 1:3 Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; *** It does NOT say “the God, Jesus Christ.” - Gal 1:3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 6:23 Peace [be] to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Eph 3:9 And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ - Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ -Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all *** The Father is God. - Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name **** Jesus is the image of God, and He is divine, but he set this aside to obey His Father God. He was in a “lower” position to begin with, and God exalted him. So he was not originally “equal” with God, if he had to be exalted. God is already exalted. - Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 1:15 Who [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature *** Jesus is the image of God, as he reflects God’s glory to man. - Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ ***God is the Father, the son is Jesus - Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God ***There are 2 seats, not one, Jesus sits on the right side of God in heaven. This means they are not the same person. - 1Th 3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you ***God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 2Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting consolation and good hope through grace God is the Father, the Son is Jesus - 1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus God is the Father, the son is Jesus Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hbr 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they Hbr 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? The Son was “made” better than the angels, as the image of the Father. Once he did the work of purging us of our sins, THEN he sat on the right hand of the Father. That means he did not have that exalted position BEFORE he came to earth and sacrificed Himself. - 1Pe 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus 2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased God is the Father, the Lord is Jesus Rev 2:26 And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, to him will I [Jesus] give power over the nations: Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Jesus received the power from the Father and then will give it to us. They are not equal in power. Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals Rev 5:5 And one of the elders said unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof *** God is the one on the throne who has the book of seals. The lion of Judah (Jesus) is qualified to open the book. Jesus does not sit on the throne. Only God sits there. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey how things with you? Good to see you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For unto us a Child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder: and his name will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 yehshiyeh speaking 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Gen 1:27 Matt 19:4 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; Gen 2:24 Matt 19:5 1 Cor 6:16 Eph 5:31 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. Gen 2:24 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Numbers 23:19 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34317312  1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. yehshiyeh speaking mark chp 10 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34317312 Ireland02/13/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Revelation 3:12 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8277387 Australia02/13/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. yehshiyeh speaking mark chp 10 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Jesus also said: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. (John 10:11) Why does He call Himself good? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34317312 Ireland02/13/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. yehshiyeh speaking mark chp 10 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Jesus also said: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. (John 10:11) Why does He call Himself good? He also refers to good trees, ie people producing good fruit. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Matthew 7:17 |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 1 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28100246 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. yehshiyeh speaking mark chp 10 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Jesus also said: I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. (John 10:11) Why does He call Himself good? He is referring to the fact that he is not a false prophet and will direct his sheep in truth.This is whata good shepherd does he will not leave his sheep for the wolves and run away There were false religious doctrines going on like now where men were bending the truth to follow traditional teachings of men Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/13/2013 08:40 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 34258256 United States02/13/2013 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TIME TO NOTICE THE ACTIVITIES AND THE DEDICATION OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER THE FATHER OF YEHSHIYEH? Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar  How he made provision for you and you pay him no honor.He is on the back burner of christian doctrine and it should not be so! Our God is to be exalted and remembered as yehshiye[Jesus}taught! All the events surrounding your salvation was because The Father of All found it fit to give up a son that you be saved.That is why the old testament says he is the only savior because he decided to redeem his children by scarificing his own that you may have life. Did not Jesus ask you to honor the father ? When you pray he said "Our father" not him but the father because he was teaching the disciples in his time how to pray like he did. Now I show you how great the father is and how often the churches ignore his efforts and his majesty.Look at the verses below,everybody is always trying to figure out the transfiguration and all these sermons on this and the one thing they never did was to acknowledge the most inspiring thing.There is always discussion about Moses and Elisha and the witnesses and you miss the bigger picture LUKE CHAPTER 9 VERSE 34-38 And it chanced as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus: Master, it is good being here for us: Let us make three tabernacles, one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for *Helias: and *wist not what he said. While he thus spake, there came a cloud and shadowed them and they feared when they were come under the cloud. And there came a voice out of the cloud saying: This is my dear son, hear him. And as soon as the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close: and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. Yes Jesus had a visitation direct from the father himself because his habitations are the clouds of heaven and this been written in your bibles all over.I will prove it Job 22:14 Thick clouds [are] a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven Psa 104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind Psa 18:11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him [were] dark waters [and] thick clouds of the skies. *MOST OF ALL AS IT RELATES EVEN MORE TO MARK CHAPTER 9* Psa 68:33 To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, [which were] of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, [and that] a mighty voice. Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency [is] over Israel, and his strength [is] in the clouds. O God, [thou art] terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel [is] he that giveth strength and power unto [his] people. Blessed [be] God. Acknowledge the Holy Father and creator the one God! There is no other in earth and in heaven.Jesus is not God ass you see for the father visited him even on this earth to prove to you as he said "this is my beloved son hear him" 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
