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Message Subject THE ONE GOD! THE FATHER VISITED JESUS IN THE EARTH AND YOU MISSED IT ALL
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This was written by a friend of mine...... Mr. Ireland ~ you will recognize this writing as being from Asa.... I think it is a fascinating read......

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Anyway, it is my belief that Yahushua was the first thing created by the father. This is supported in Hebrews, Enoch, John 1, and many other places in Scripture. This is why he is referred to as the cornerstone of creation (because you lay the cornerstone first in a construction). Now, since he was the first thing ever created, he is entitled to the birthrights of creation, much like the firstborn son was entitled to the inheritance of the father. So, because of this he has the nobility of a prince next in line of the throne, And keep in mind he has always been called the Son of Man - meaning that he was the prototype for all humanity.

So this is very important "legalistic" concepts that get muddled in with pagan beliefs and often thrown in the corner to be ignored over. But it IS very important when say, an angelic being says he is entitled to rule creation (say, 2nd in line to the throne if this were a kingship). But no matter what, the third to the throne would never be able to rule in any way, because the 1st in line can't die (not to mention the king). So, what did happen is the creation was tainted. What Yahushua brought to the world was his birthright. He literally gave up his entire inheritance to incarnate fully as a man (a poor black man). So he went from most-noble to least noble instantly so that he could redeem us. That was what he "paid" the shop owner in that scenario. Keep in mind in that scenario of the thief, the nice wealthy man paid the debt to shopowner back the money AND went to jail - because that is justice. The stolen money was accounted for AND the crime was punished. Normally, the money would have been taken back from the thief and then he would have gone to jail. In our scenario the "money" was our right to exist, and the punishment was death which would equal obliteration of existence. So because of this, we get to exist, the debt has been paid, and the punishment was carried out.

What's interesting though is that just like Yoseph adopted his son, Yahushua into his family (and into the line of David), YHWH re-adopted Yahushua as one of his Sons (again) when he was baptized. But not only was he "just a Son" he adopted him back as his "first-born Son" where he belonged. However, even so, the rulership of the world had been passed (officially) to the Second-born upon his entry to this world. So, even though he had been adopted back, it wasn't official until after he died and took his (previous) position at the Right Hand of YHWH. See, before he came to the world, he had no name. And a name (for angels) is just a job description basically (because they were named/defined by YHWH - not man), he was only referred to as a Messenger of YHWH, maybe Melchizidek, but most always as the Son of Man (which ironically he was not at the time - which gets real mind boggling if you think of time warping).

Anyway, we know in Revelation 12 that when he came to the Earth, Ha Satan tried to attack heaven once again (which makes since because Satan at that point held the inheritance). But he was defeated once again. So you have to think that the next likely time for Satan to make an attack on the throne of YHWH would be the moment when Yahushua returns as King (because heaven will be cleared out following him). And of course, his goal now isn't to rule, but to avoid his fate by destroying all creation. 2 Enoch states "If I (YHWH) turn my head, all things will be destroyed." Meaning we are basically a figment of YHWH's imagination.
VERY WRONG!

But this is all speculation based on what I would do if I were him, and well, I think my knowledge of tactics combined with history pretty solid.

For references of many of these things, look up Luke 19:11, Rev. 12, Heb 1, 1 Pet 2, 1 & 2 Enoch where the Son of Man is mentioned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24946868

 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

well, don't lose the message in a couple of words that he admits is his opinion. And the the part about being in His imagination was his take from the reading of Enoch. Again, opinion, but we ALL have opinions. None of us have 100% knowledge. It's why I like to listen to everybody, cause everybody knows a little.
 
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