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Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum

 
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The Melba Ketchum DNA paper is going to be released tomorrow or Friday. Looks like the Mighty ape man is a 13,000 year old Hybrid, the descendants of ancient giants who abducted human females -- their offspring, Nephilim ape men.

Truth is stranger than fiction. 110 DNA samples, 3 genomes sequenced. The Nephilim are here folks:

THREE BIGFOOT GENOMES SEQUENCED IN 5-YEAR DNA STUDY

New Research Paper Published Friday Shows Homo Sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species Extant in North America
DALLAS, February 10th

A team of scientists will publish their five-year long study of DNA samples from a novel hominin species, commonly known as “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” on Friday February 15th, 2013. The results suggest that the legendary Sasquatch is extant in North America and is a human relative that arose approximately 13,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an novel primate species.

The study, “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies,” was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology. The team, led by Dr. Melba Ketchum of DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, TX, included Dr. Pat Wojtkiecicz, Director of the North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory; Ms. Aliece Watts of Integrated Forensic Laboratories in Euless, TX; Mr. David Spence, Trace Evidence Supervisor at Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences; Dr. Andreas K. Holzenburg, Director of the Microscopy & Imaging Center at Texas A&M University; Dr. Douglas G. Toler of Huguley Pathology Consultants in Fort Worth, TX; Dr. Thomas M. Prychitko of Wayne State University in Michigan; Dr. Fan Zhang of the University of North Texas Health Science Center; and Sarah Bollinger, Ray Shoulders, and Ryan Smith of DNA Diagnostics.

In total, 110 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the study. Samples were submitted by individuals and groups at 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces. Ketchum’s team sequenced 20 whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes, as well as 3 whole nuclear genomes, from the samples.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes from mitochondria, energy-producing organelles in the cellular cytoplasm, and is passed down on the maternal lineage across generations. Nuclear DNA (nuDNA) is the genetic information contained in the cell nucleus and is the equal combination of DNA from the parents of an individual.

Initially a skeptic, Ketchum implemented strict protocols to ensure the scientific integrity of the study. DNA samples from submitters and scientists working with study specimens were obtained for use as controls. DNA was extracted from samples using forensic procedures to prevent contamination. Forensics experts examined the morphology of the submitted hair samples against known human and animal samples before beginning DNA testing. “We soon discovered that certain hair samples--which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples--had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples,” says Ketchum. “Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the ‘tree of life.'”

After extensive forensic controls to prevent contamination, mtDNA testing of the Sasquatch samples yielded fully modern human profiles. Sixteen haplotypes indicating 100% homology with modern human mtDNA sequences were observed from 20 completed whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes. The human mtDNA results are consistent with prior, unrelated mtDNA tests of purported Sasquatch samples from other laboratories.

Next-generation whole genome sequencing with the HiSeq 2000 platform by Illumina was performed at the University of Texas, Southwestern on one tissue sample, a saliva sample and one blood sample to produce 3 whole genomes. In contrast to the mtDNA which was unambiguously modern human, the Sasquatch nuDNA results were a mosaic of novel primate and human sequence.

“While the three Sasquatch nuclear genomes aligned well with one another and showed significant homology to human chromosome 11 which is highly conserved in primates, the Sasquatch genomes were novel and fell well outside of known ancient hominin as well as ape sequences,” explains Ketchum. “Because some of the mtDNA haplogroups found in our Sasquatch samples originated as late as 13,000 years ago, we are hypothesizing that the Sasquatch are human hybrids, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”

Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo.

“Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies.”

Authors: Ketchum MS, Wojtkiewicz PW, Watts AB, Spence DW, Holzenburg AK, Toler DG, Prychitko TM, Zhang F, Bollinger S, Shoulders R, Smith R

Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.

Specimens yielding DNA were obtained, purportedly from elusive hominins in North America
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
One down, two to go. Loch Ness and UFOs.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
bump well FFS this is kinda big news to the paranormal community isn't it?
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
It will be interesting to see what the paper is like and how seriously it is taken by the scientific community. If it is any good, it will be taken seroiusly, if it isn't then it won't.
You can't tell without reading the paper whether they had good protocols in their studies or not and contamination is a big issue in DNA studies.
Without an actual body to back this up, they are going to have a hard time showing that the results aren't a product of contamination, I think.

They say that the DNA doesn't match any known ancient hominins, which therefore excludes neanderthals, becuase their genome has been sequenced. That leaves perhaps Homo erectus. However, without a body it wil be a tough case to convince people of. Let's see how good the paper is.

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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
i'm not clear on something, is the entire paper going to be released, or just a portion of it?
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bumpand pin
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aren't they supposed to wait till bigfoot dna is found first?
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Think on all those backdated welfare payments.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
I've heard they have a couple of very clear videos of bigfoots to release as well. Anyone heard about that lately?
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Supposedly real photos will be released. If this is legit, this has serious implications.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Interesting. Wasn't this the same blog though that claimed a bigfoot had been captured, only to say it was released hours later due to "the Geneva convention", or some similar shit?
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Supposedly real photos will be released. If this is legit, this has serious implications.
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iff it's legit. Photos can be faked very easily these days. Only a body will really shift the mood on it OR if the DNA evidence is exceptional and I am keeping an open mind about it but likelihood will be that it doesn't pan out.

The reason for that would be, for me, that no body has been produced. If they have 110 samples surely a body would have turned up.

I could see a vague possibility that Homo sapiens could have bred with Homo erectus and carried their DNA into a subpopulation of hybrids, because Homo erectus might have survived in a pocket in Asia up to 60,000 years ago when the sapiens got out of Africa and interbreeding might have been viable.
But to be honest that theory is really pushing it. There isn't another one that would work because other than Neanderthals there isn't any other hominin species that could fit the bill and it's not Neandethals according to them.

I would bet on it not panning out, but it would be cool if it did... more to learn about in our history.

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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
The Bigfoot Report has it all.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
OK I just had a look around, and it appears that the journal that the paper is being published in is simply a brand new website set up by Ketchum herself and called a "scientific journal" presumably for effect.

"Here's the official press release brought to you by DeNovo Journal of Science, a Science Journal website created Dr. Melba Ketchum"
[link to bigfootevidence.blogspot.com.au]
they have left out the "by" here in the sentence.

I understand that it's probably hard for her to get printed because of the subject matter, but to present it like it's being published in some kind of independent journal with no conflict of interest looks to be a bit .. not how it is.

[link to www.denovojournal.com]

The website itself doesn't have details of who runs it on site, which isn't kosher in itself.. all journals have these things up so you can see whose behind the scenes there.

So if it's a peer reviewed journal... who exactly are the peers doing the reviewing? Can anyone review it?
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Actually it was first published in JAMEZ - Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.
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Actually it was first published in JAMEZ - Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.
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so why all this hype about it being released blah blah.. if it's already BEEN released?
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OK so this is the journal:
[link to scholasticahq.com (secure)]

can anyone get the first link to work, the "about journal" tab, for me it just brings up a blank page.

This journal isn't even listed on my universities journal data base. There are plenty on the list that the uni doesn't subscribe to, but this one isn't even listed.
??????

If this article is already published then it should be available to purchase or be accessed by those with subscription... however... I can find no such access.
anyone?

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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Only very limited reference to this journal appears online

one mention is here: [link to zoobank.org]

However, if you go to their link to where the archives should be [link to www.hathitrust.org]
that whole library give NO RESULTS for Ketchem, her paper, or the journal, at all. Nor does my uni library have access to the journal or even have it listed to begin with. Basically I can't see much evidence for the journal itself let alone the paper having been printed in it. If it is printed it should be accessible, either for money and subscription and/or through a research university's library e-journal collection.

If anyone has further info on this as to where this journal can be accessed, where it's archives are and where Ketchum's paper can be accessed from, that would be cool.

other than that.. I'm pretty much looking at this like wtf. I deal with journals a fair bit and look up articles all the time... and shit is just not hidden like this... and it's not this hard to find... I don't get it.. something just aint' right with it.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
Only very limited reference to this journal appears online

one mention is here: [link to zoobank.org]

However, if you go to their link to where the archives should be [link to www.hathitrust.org]
that whole library give NO RESULTS for Ketchem, her paper, or the journal, at all. Nor does my uni library have access to the journal or even have it listed to begin with. Basically I can't see much evidence for the journal itself let alone the paper having been printed in it. If it is printed it should be accessible, either for money and subscription and/or through a research university's library e-journal collection.

If anyone has further info on this as to where this journal can be accessed, where it's archives are and where Ketchum's paper can be accessed from, that would be cool.

other than that.. I'm pretty much looking at this like wtf. I deal with journals a fair bit and look up articles all the time... and shit is just not hidden like this... and it's not this hard to find... I don't get it.. something just aint' right with it.
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Well... hmmm...

Maybe we should see if the paper was submitted to the Weekly World Journal of Relict Hominology, first edition? Or consult a reel of toilet paper. Because this whole thing is really starting to look like some Grade A. Bovis stercus... mmmhmm yes sir.

Or I could be wrong, and the paper could have actual merit to it. I hope the latter.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
I don't know... Too many samples involved, too many studies here to just brush aside. I want to read the entire paper, and raw data. Then I can make up my mind.

I believe Sasquatch is real, so I remain open minded here. Even optimistic that some ground breaking data is presented here. The World's a big place.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
OK so this is the journal:
[link to scholasticahq.com (secure)]

can anyone get the first link to work, the "about journal" tab, for me it just brings up a blank page.

This journal isn't even listed on my universities journal data base. There are plenty on the list that the uni doesn't subscribe to, but this one isn't even listed.
??????

If this article is already published then it should be available to purchase or be accessed by those with subscription... however... I can find no such access.
anyone?
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sherlock

Does it even matter? Mainstream academia is so full of shit these days.

I am fairly certain that "they" exist but these idiots refuse to look into it and just make fun of it and call us stupid for believing in them. Fuck them. They can't even get some things right and set us back decades.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
OK so this is the journal:
[link to scholasticahq.com (secure)]

can anyone get the first link to work, the "about journal" tab, for me it just brings up a blank page.

This journal isn't even listed on my universities journal data base. There are plenty on the list that the uni doesn't subscribe to, but this one isn't even listed.
??????

If this article is already published then it should be available to purchase or be accessed by those with subscription... however... I can find no such access.
anyone?
 Quoting: Requiem


sherlock

Does it even matter? Mainstream academia is so full of shit these days.

I am fairly certain that "they" exist but these idiots refuse to look into it and just make fun of it and call us stupid for believing in them. Fuck them. They can't even get some things right and set us back decades.
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I agree. Fuck them. Too many witnesses see them, and other cryptids. We don't need a university prof. A James Randi or a Melba Ketchum to tell us that. Don't believe any of them, just believe your five senses and gut instincts.

By the way I checked Ketchum's face book, her journal is now "live" if you want to download it......

FOR a discount rate of only $29.99 A POP.

Step right on up folks, the best show in town has just started! Circus Maximus -- Meganthropus 2013, the unveiling via Ms. Melba 'Gotta Ketchem all'....

I hate it when so called scientists build up your hope for 1 year, and then exhibit their "findings" as a carnival side show exhibit...for profit. Wow. P.T. Barnum slap me in the face with a rubber dildo please.

This is Fred Rogers signing out --

Again... I hope she at least has video footage of a Bigfoot peeing in a thicket or something close up...Gotta be good to pay 30 bucks for. LoL
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
well it DOES matter, because if the evidence is real then it would be dealt with by mainstream academia. AND the researchers in this case are presenting it like it has been or will be printed in a peer reviewed journal, like a real science journal, and I just can't see any evidence for that being the case.

I know that there would be a lot of scientists very interested in this kind of data. It doesn't "go against our theories therefore we won't acknowledge it".. not at all. I can think of a theory that might cover it as I explained in previous posts. Heaps of scientists would be extremely interested in it and finding out what it is and what it means. People like to present scientists as general fuckwits bent on being blind to the truth "to protect their worldview" or of lying... well NEWS FLASH they are just regular people and just as many are open minded as there are open minded people in any frikking field.

But unless there is a good paper and good data behind it, it won't get anywhere. Without a body as well, ... that's going to be hard. But if the DNA evidence is strong enough that should be enough... but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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holy fuck lol.
well that covers it then.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
By the way I checked Ketchum's face book, her journal is now "live" if you want to download it......

FOR a discount rate of only $29.99 A POP.

Step right on up folks, the best show in town has just started! Circus Maximus -- Meganthropus 2013, the unveiling via Ms. Melba 'Gotta Ketchem all'....

I hate it when so called scientists build up your hope for 1 year, and then exhibit their "findings" as a carnival side show exhibit...for profit. Wow. P.T. Barnum slap me in the face with a rubber dildo please.

This is Fred Rogers signing out --

Again... I hope she at least has video footage of a Bigfoot peeing in a thicket or something close up...Gotta be good to pay 30 bucks for. LoL
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Bigfoot sex tape for $29.95

It just got real up in here.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
DeNovo publications is an open-source alternative for publications in Genetics. Kind of a LINUX for bio-sciences. Don't write them off too quickly, unless of course, it's your job. Then blast away!

I will wait and see the paper.
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
DeNovo publications is an open-source alternative for publications in Genetics. Kind of a LINUX for bio-sciences. Don't write them off too quickly, unless of course, it's your job. Then blast away!

I will wait and see the paper.
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You can wait all day... Or you can purchase it for only one easy payment of $29.99!
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Re: Bigfoot DNA study to be released Friday --Melba Ketchum
DeNovo publications is an open-source alternative for publications in Genetics. Kind of a LINUX for bio-sciences. Don't write them off too quickly, unless of course, it's your job. Then blast away!

I will wait and see the paper.
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it's owned by KETCHUM HERSELF. Don't write them off too quickly? she constructed the site to look like a science journal in order to give her paper some credibility. She has hidden on the site the fact that she is editor owner etc etc etc, because I looked for the info, which should be there, and it's not.

And btw, Crazy harriet... is that you Melba? here to make your site look good and to call everyone with more than one brain cell a shill?

fuckwit.

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DeNovo publications is an open-source alternative for publications in Genetics. Kind of a LINUX for bio-sciences. Don't write them off too quickly, unless of course, it's your job. Then blast away!

I will wait and see the paper.
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You can wait all day... Or you can purchase it for only one easy payment of $29.99!
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Exactly. Proper journals aren't free [except for some like PLOS which instead charge the authors of the paper a publication fee] you have to pay by the paper, or for a subscription or be a member of an institution which has access. So, Melba... whoops sorry: Harriet... you won't be waiting for the paper you will be paying for the paper. Unless of course you don't mind paying for bullshit. You sound like the kind of person who would pay for bullshit.
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