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If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??

 
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If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
If you are not awake by now... Is it too late? As in somewhat awake i.e. not obsessed with one of the two in the two party political system...

Do you write off clueless sheeple?

Is it possible for believers to be unaware of things beyond the nightly news??

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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
there was a time i would have said yes, write them off

but now i say no

we can't go down the bill cooper path and turn into lonely, pissed off drunks.

just because we are aware of certain things others are not does not make us special. the truth movements and conspiracy circles have lied to us about our place in society. we are not beacons of light and truth, we are just as screwed up as anyone else, if not more so.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
Being aware to the game takes time to sink in. As age comes so does wisdom, also self awareness which for me was around hitting 30. So no knowing all this sick shit all it does is make me depressed, I always lived in the now and we never regret the fact that I did so, tomorrow could be my day or the next, it would not bother me but if I must suffer into the hell that's coming our way then it seems deserved. But remember it takes only takes for things to come around, the battle of good vs evil is a cycle.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
just with meeting new people, if they are completely clueless, with everything going on... is it too late for them.. or maybe it is not their fault... Clearly many do not want the truth also. but do you stay away from those people or try to get them new info?

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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
and the more your learn the further away from them you feel. and the less you understand why they are clueless. so basically I am asking if clueless is innocent with everything being presented, or is it their fault?
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with people being asleep. Nothing you do will change their minds, and they won't be aware of the pain that is being inflicted on them (until it is too late).

People just look at me as being a crazy nutter when I rant about the government, or different conspiracies. They don't want to believe. That is their right, but it is too bad that they can't open their eyes and see the truth. Nothing we do will change that, though.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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From Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

All of us are working on the same project. Some consciously, with understanding; some without knowing it. (I think this is what Heraclitus meant when he said that “those who sleep are also hard at work” — they they too collaborate in what happens.) Some of us work in one way, and some in others. And those who complain and try to obstruct and thwart things — they help as much as anyone.

The world needs them as well.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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From Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

All of us are working on the same project. Some consciously, with understanding; some without knowing it. (I think this is what Heraclitus meant when he said that “those who sleep are also hard at work” — they they too collaborate in what happens.) Some of us work in one way, and some in others. And those who complain and try to obstruct and thwart things — they help as much as anyone.

The world needs them as well.
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interesting, thanks.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
Honestly, there is nothing wrong with people being asleep. Nothing you do will change their minds, and they won't be aware of the pain that is being inflicted on them (until it is too late).

People just look at me as being a crazy nutter when I rant about the government, or different conspiracies. They don't want to believe. That is their right, but it is too bad that they can't open their eyes and see the truth. Nothing we do will change that, though.
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It is just hard to believe people sit around and are like, oh, if only the other major political party was in charge, everything would be great... just crap like that gets more and more shocking the more I see unfolding...
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
To be awake doesn't really have anything to do with watching politics. You only qualify if you have had your eyes opened by God...the Christian God which is largely an event yet to come, the event of bringing in the fullness of the gentiles, which, by the way, is not a number of people as we had assumed, but is the fullness of being reverted back to what God originally had created us to be. This is foretold in Acts 3:21, the restitution of all things. The Sons of God will be returned fully here, on earth, before the end comes and have all abilities as the original man, Adam had. Our DNA will be restored as it is now corrupted. Whatever Adam could do, so shall we. Sons of God includes women too. Woman is a type of a man, a man with a womb. I am watching for this event to occur quite possibly this year. Electromagnetism has something to do with it I suspect. Watch for the skies to be torn as with a vortex opening in the sky and a terrific storm, not sure if it is world wide or only in some areas. Tune in tomorrow.
By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loveth.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
those who are asleep are more hard at work than those who are awake
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in what way?
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From Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

All of us are working on the same project. Some consciously, with understanding; some without knowing it. (I think this is what Heraclitus meant when he said that “those who sleep are also hard at work” — they they too collaborate in what happens.) Some of us work in one way, and some in others. And those who complain and try to obstruct and thwart things — they help as much as anyone.

The world needs them as well.
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^^^^^
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
To be awake doesn't really have anything to do with watching politics. You only qualify if you have had your eyes opened by God...the Christian God which is largely an event yet to come, the event of bringing in the fullness of the gentiles, which, by the way, is not a number of people as we had assumed, but is the fullness of being reverted back to what God originally had created us to be. This is foretold in Acts 3:21, the restitution of all things. The Sons of God will be returned fully here, on earth, before the end comes and have all abilities as the original man, Adam had. Our DNA will be restored as it is now corrupted. Whatever Adam could do, so shall we. Sons of God includes women too. Woman is a type of a man, a man with a womb. I am watching for this event to occur quite possibly this year. Electromagnetism has something to do with it I suspect. Watch for the skies to be torn as with a vortex opening in the sky and a terrific storm, not sure if it is world wide or only in some areas. Tune in tomorrow.
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Someone else said spiritually awake and then worldly awakening - but they are interconnected to get the larger picture.

Thanks for your input. Why do you believe this year? Not saying I disagree...
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
The more you try to "wake people up", the more they'll shut you, or your message out. It's a strange human condition - people think they're smarter than they really are. So when new info comes at them, they get defensive. Or they get into a pissing contest because they want to "right."

"You can lead a horse to water..."

The best way to deal with this people, is to flip the conversation. Instead of you trying to convince them, try to get them to convince you of their opinion. When they say stupid stuff, ask them to clarify, or ask questions that will get them to flush out the truth on their own.

Their ego will be spared, they might even go do more research and learn something new. And perhaps, one day, they might even come to you to discuss "waking up" conversations.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
The more you try to "wake people up", the more they'll shut you, or your message out. It's a strange human condition - people think they're smarter than they really are. So when new info comes at them, they get defensive. Or they get into a pissing contest because they want to "right."

"You can lead a horse to water..."

The best way to deal with this people, is to flip the conversation. Instead of you trying to convince them, try to get them to convince you of their opinion. When they say stupid stuff, ask them to clarify, or ask questions that will get them to flush out the truth on their own.

Their ego will be spared, they might even go do more research and learn something new. And perhaps, one day, they might even come to you to discuss "waking up" conversations.
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good tips, thanks. Do people that ignore it really have an excuse to do so anymore?
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
The more you try to "wake people up", the more they'll shut you, or your message out. It's a strange human condition - people think they're smarter than they really are. So when new info comes at them, they get defensive. Or they get into a pissing contest because they want to "right."

"You can lead a horse to water..."

The best way to deal with this people, is to flip the conversation. Instead of you trying to convince them, try to get them to convince you of their opinion. When they say stupid stuff, ask them to clarify, or ask questions that will get them to flush out the truth on their own.

Their ego will be spared, they might even go do more research and learn something new. And perhaps, one day, they might even come to you to discuss "waking up" conversations.
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good tips, thanks. Do people that ignore it really have an excuse to do so anymore?
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Good question.

On one hand, the entire environment is created to dumb people down. Humans are technically animals. And animals are easy to train, but hard to break of old patterns and beliefs.

On the other hand, they have a brain and free will. They should be able to figure out that free will Ives them the right to make decisions for themselves AND think for themselves.

It's a conundrum
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
there was a time i would have said yes, write them off

but now i say no

we can't go down the bill cooper path and turn into lonely, pissed off drunks.

just because we are aware of certain things others are not does not make us special. the truth movements and conspiracy circles have lied to us about our place in society. we are not beacons of light and truth, we are just as screwed up as anyone else, if not more so.
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
If you haven't accepted Jesus then you are in true peril. He is the only way
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If you haven't accepted Jesus then you are in true peril. He is the only way
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if your brain is so unidemsional to belive this...surely you cannot be saved
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
The more you try to "wake people up", the more they'll shut you, or your message out. It's a strange human condition - people think they're smarter than they really are. So when new info comes at them, they get defensive. Or they get into a pissing contest because they want to "right."

"You can lead a horse to water..."

The best way to deal with this people, is to flip the conversation. Instead of you trying to convince them, try to get them to convince you of their opinion. When they say stupid stuff, ask them to clarify, or ask questions that will get them to flush out the truth on their own.

Their ego will be spared, they might even go do more research and learn something new. And perhaps, one day, they might even come to you to discuss "waking up" conversations.
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good tips, thanks. Do people that ignore it really have an excuse to do so anymore?
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Good question.

On one hand, the entire environment is created to dumb people down. Humans are technically animals. And animals are easy to train, but hard to break of old patterns and beliefs.

On the other hand, they have a brain and free will. They should be able to figure out that free will Ives them the right to make decisions for themselves AND think for themselves.

It's a conundrum
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Good Answer! Yeah that his true, then I am thinking well a lot of us have done our own research, why can't they? Or why won't they??
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
Being truly awake means you can think critically for yourself. That means wading through all the bytes of information you get and deciding for yourself what is truth and what is BS.

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Being truly awake means you can think critically for yourself. That means wading through all the bytes of information you get and deciding for yourself what is truth and what is BS.

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Yes! So when meeting new people do you cut them some slack and just assume they have not had access to good info and were not able to critically examine their surroundings, or write them off ASAP????
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Re: If you are not awake by now... Is it possible to be asleep if not by choice?? Do you write off sheeple??
Thinking about this today - any new ideas?

Thanks.

hf
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