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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?

 
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02/26/2013 01:13 AM
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Tell that to the IRS, they must not be as smart on income taxes as you are.


Its another legal unicorn born and bred in the mind's of 'sovereign citizens'. With no evidence of any connection to the outside world.
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The tax return checks are pretty real world...

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The tax return checks are pretty real world...

Tax return checks issued to WHO? And backed with what evidence?




(psst....that's your cue to get uselessly vague again...)
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02/26/2013 03:34 PM
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The tax return checks are pretty real world...

Tax return checks issued to WHO? And backed with what evidence?




(psst....that's your cue to get uselessly vague again...)
 Quoting: J_


There are plenty on the board I linked and many other docs from the IRS.

IRS means the "internal revenue service" they are the ones who collect income tax in the United States. The 1040s are there too, with a demand for lawful money and the deduction for it, sanitized copies of return checks are there too.
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There are plenty on the board I linked and many other docs from the IRS.

Then show us one.
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So you go uselessly vague again.

Shocker.
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still beating the dead horse j??
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still beating the dead horse j??
 Quoting: miserkocho2


Just underlining the fact that the latest 'get out of paying your taxes' scheme holds up best when you don't ask for any specific details.

Like people that have used it. Or a logical basis. Even now....what does 'redemption in lawful money' have to do with your tax debt?

Even the scheme's adherants can't explain it. It makes as much sense as saying that if you demand to have your driver's license photo retaken, you no longer have to pay sales tax.

It just doesn't follow.

But as this sovereign citizen thread demonstrates......almost none of their claims do.
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still beating the dead horse j??
 Quoting: miserkocho2


Just underlining the fact that the latest 'get out of paying your taxes' scheme holds up best when you don't ask for any specific details.

Like people that have used it. Or a logical basis. Even now....what does 'redemption in lawful money' have to do with your tax debt?

Even the scheme's adherants can't explain it. It makes as much sense as saying that if you demand to have your driver's license photo retaken, you no longer have to pay sales tax.

It just doesn't follow.

But as this sovereign citizen thread demonstrates......almost none of their claims do.
 Quoting: J_



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Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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J the professional shill is off to greener fields of shillery it seems! I just finished setting up an LLC complete with a demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411!

Fuck J and his bullshit shilling, I am free to negotiate my business affairs as I see fit!
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J the professional shill is off to greener fields of shillery it seems! I just finished setting up an LLC complete with a demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411!

Fuck J and his bullshit shilling, I am free to negotiate my business affairs as I see fit!
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J says you'll go to jail with secret handshakestounge
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"Sovereign citizen" is an oxymoron.you can be one or the other but not both. Im neither or between at the moment, still learning and not confident enough to make any sudden motions yet.

yes, the organic act of 1871 is an issue but it goes back much further. in the US we have the issue of the missing 13th amendment from 1811 and the real reason for the war of 1812 it is.


the truth is hard to uncover but the media is definately not accurate on this (or any) subject.


key search words:

missing 13th amendment
Libel of review
savings to suitors
lawful money
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Please explain this for us newbies
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During my wife's custody case tresspassing process servers, sheriff officers, were captured after their they drove over spike strips, after picking a lock on a gate.

The captured men, numbered three, refused to comply with arrest, and fled into the forest leaving weapons, papers, drugs, cash behind.

After their retreat from property destruction several branches fell from the forest trees and inflicted major damage on their transportation.

The men were captured, and surrendered with hands in the air, weapons on the ground, in a ravine. A tree had fallen on their hideout and a backhoe was needed to rescue the prisoners.

A bill was sent to their employer for damages to a gate, blocking ingress/egress, tresspassing damages, backhoe time and materials, plus a bill for clean up.

Their employer paid the bill with no questions asked and other process servers respected the lock that was the security demanded to be secure in our homes.

The enemy understands liability, bring the fight to them.
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