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Message Subject Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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And I'm saying just because I'm born on land doesn't mean anyone has jurisdiction over me because there is no contract between myself and that entity..in this case a FICTION called a corporation (State)

I get what you're 'saying'. Its also useless nonsense. Jurisdiction isn't established by 'contract'. Its established by geography. If you're in Maryland, you're subject to the laws of Maryland. If you're in the US, you're subject to the laws of the US.

You disagree. Who cares? You're nobody. You citing yourself as the law is meaningless, as you aren't the law.

So who says that jurisdiction is established by contract? Show me the law saying this.



The laws don't apply to anyone because nobody ever consented to the laws.



And who said that laws require your personal consent to be applied to you?

You, citing you again? So what? You're nobody.


The State which is a fiction has no jurisdiction over men and women. It can't have jurisdiction over anybody because it can't own property because it is a fiction.


Who says that you need to be able to own property in order to have jurisdiction?

Just you, citing you. Which is meaningless, as you're nobody. And you don't know what you're talking about.



I repeat Mr. Evasive. Just because I'm born on land doesn't put me under anyone's jurisdiction including a King.


That's what you say. And you're nobody. You could call yourself Napoleon, it doesn't mean you command the French Army. You could call yourself Jesus Christ...doesn't mean the Catholics now worship you.

Your imaginary labels are irrelevant. The law applies to you the same no matter what you call yourself.


Who says the States or the USA has jurisdiction? Just because they they threaten force and violence?


We the people do, through our laws. And the people have vastly more power than you do. We're authoritative, you aren't.

You can imagine you're magically immune, that you're a king, or a pony or a popcicle. It really doesn't matter what you imagine. Break our laws and we catch you doing it....and we'll subject you to our legal system. There's nothing you can do about it.

You're not special and you're not exempt. Get used to the idea.
 
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