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Message Subject Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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By examining documents, making obsevations, you can draw conclusions that can make you relatively confident... But, "you" will never be 100%, until you do it...

Oh, confidence the Sovereign Citizen folks have. But a firm understanding of the law? Nope. Their record of failure is overwhelming.

For example, if a sovereign citizen guy looks at the United States and is 'confident' that it only includes DC and the territories, it still doesn't change the fact that its been recognized by courts as far back as the 1820s as including the States. This isn't an issue that has been overlooked. Its about as firm in precedent as can be established, with approaching 2 CENTURIES of consistent rulings on the matter.

So a sovereign citizen to deciding unilaterally that *he* must be right and the USSC and all the courts for the last 2 centuries must be wrong doesn't amount to much. It doesn't matter how confident you 'feel'.

Feelings don't change the law anymore than sovereign citizen pseudo-legal gibberish does. The law does applies to sovereign citizens the same way it does everyone else. There is no secret syntax that makes them exempt from the law or from taxes. There's no self proclaimed status, no secret handshake, no font on their birth certificate that makes them immune.

And this is the great disconnect for the sovereign citizen folks. They keep assuming that THEY decide what legal terms mean, that THEY decide which laws apply and which don't that THEY can invent any limit to government jurisdiction they can imagine....and the government is bound to whatever they make up.

No, it isn't.
 
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