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Message Subject Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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i agree,its meaningless but thats only becuase it will be recognised only when it doesnt conflict with a political or corporate agenda.

I doubt it. The issue is subjective v. objective. Sovereign citizens insist that they are immune from the law and all taxation *if they say so*. Based on whatever pseudo legal babble they want to make up.

The law and the courts apply a more objective standard. Actual law, and actual precedent.

As long as we don't allow anyone and everyone to imagine their own legal definitions, imagine the law is whatever they want it to be....I suspect the SC movement is going to have trouble. Because their argument is overwhelmingly subjective.

For example....the US is only DC and the territories per the Sovereign citizen folks. Okay. The courts recognize it as all the States too. Now the SC guys can imagine all they want.......its highly unlikely that nearly 200 years of explicit legal precedent are going to be overturned because they've imagined a new legal definition.

And its this way across the board. FRNs can't be 'lawful money' until they've been 'endorsed as such'? Demanding that your FRN be 'redeemed' under Title 12, 411 somehow makes you immune from income taxes? Say who? This is just more made up nonsense. And it never ends with the SC. They are constantly imagining up new non-existent 'limits', new pseudo-legal babble.

And none of it means a thing as long as the courts and the law don't recognize it.

This is the great disconnect. This is the battle of subjective to objective. And overwhelmingly, the objective wins in court.
 
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