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DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!

 
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I just asked my online contact Nathaniel about this, and both he and his associate Nergal e-mailed me stating the changing of the orbits of our planets in our solar system is a normal process for the continuing shift of our entire solar system to the 5th dimension, which will happen throughout the entire year of 2013, and be fully complete by early 2014.

They both told me that Earth is next. spock
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Something to ponder over your cornflakes this morning people...

In the images, if Mercury is in an faster orbital rotation to the Earth then why is this object assumed to be Mercury gradually getting bigger if it is not approaching?

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
I said it on that thread and i'll say it on this one.

Mercury won't hit the earth or is it going out of it's orbit.

There is nothing that's going to hit the earth.
That is a moral certainty.

I know so.
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It must be so hard living your life. I mean being so much smarter than everyone else. And being able to see into the future and all. I feel for you brother. What's that you cant see in the future and you are no smarter than the average GLPer then my shut the fuck up cause you dont know for sure.
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My life runs with ease.
does yours?


What would you know you fuckwit...that's your perception in your mind.
It's not in my perception.

Plus it's not about looking into the future dumbass...i'm fully open in my intuition.

It's never been wrong.
The shamans open up into the energy source...so can i.


I know for certain...i don't put anything down unless it comes to pass.
Never been wrong.
That you csn bet on.

live your life amongst humanity like the rest...leave the bigger picture to the others that see.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


You have failed to appear wise, and appear as if you suffer from intellectual retardation... you are prideful, and a fool. The wise are meek, and the lowly gain wisdom, you sir, are a fag. A FAG! With all your Shaman opening up energy sources of BULLSHIT, actually stating that you are aware of perceptionisms, telling people they csn (Children Safety Network) the bet is on. Disgrace utter and total utterness...TOTAL...TO TALL!
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Something to ponder over your cornflakes this morning people...

In the images, if Mercury is in an opposite orbital rotation to the Earth then why is this object assumed to be Mercury gradually getting bigger if it is not approaching?

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

spock
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It isn't getting "bigger" it is getting brighter. Two different statements. Mercury will show phases. When Mercury is between STEREO Behind and the Sun you see the dark side of Mercury, hence it is faint. As it orbits the Sun you see more of the sunlit side and it will get brighter.

This is the same effect Venus goes through. Venus is not brightest when it is closest to the Earth because we see the dark side of Venus. It is brightest some time before or after inferior conjunction.
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Something to ponder over your cornflakes this morning people...

In the images, if Mercury is in an opposite orbital rotation to the Earth then why is this object assumed to be Mercury gradually getting bigger if it is not approaching?

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

spock
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It isn't getting "bigger" it is getting brighter. Two different statements. Mercury will show phases. When Mercury is between STEREO Behind and the Sun you see the dark side of Mercury, hence it is faint. As it orbits the Sun you see more of the sunlit side and it will get brighter.

This is the same effect Venus goes through. Venus is not brightest when it is closest to the Earth because we see the dark side of Venus. It is brightest some time before or after inferior conjunction.
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Sounds fair! So how about the approach? Why is it getting closer when it should be heading away from the Earth as it is in a faster orbit?

Of course it could be that we are heading towards something stationary?

Run the images from the 8th to get the perspective...
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]




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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
I said it on that thread and i'll say it on this one.

Mercury won't hit the earth or is it going out of it's orbit.

There is nothing that's going to hit the earth.
That is a moral certainty.

I know so.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


It must be so hard living your life. I mean being so much smarter than everyone else. And being able to see into the future and all. I feel for you brother. What's that you cant see in the future and you are no smarter than the average GLPer then my shut the fuck up cause you dont know for sure.
 Quoting: Ozi dude 34311245


My life runs with ease.
does yours?


What would you know you fuckwit...that's your perception in your mind.
It's not in my perception.

Plus it's not about looking into the future dumbass...i'm fully open in my intuition.

It's never been wrong.
The shamans open up into the energy source...so can i.


I know for certain...i don't put anything down unless it comes to pass.
Never been wrong.
That you csn bet on.

live your life amongst humanity like the rest...leave the bigger picture to the others that see.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


You have failed to appear wise, and appear as if you suffer from intellectual retardation... you are prideful, and a fool. The wise are meek, and the lowly gain wisdom, you sir, are a fag. A FAG! With all your Shaman opening up energy sources of BULLSHIT, actually stating that you are aware of perceptionisms, telling people they csn (Children Safety Network) the bet is on. Disgrace utter and total utterness...TOTAL...TO TALL!
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I'm getting under some peoples skin.

I sugest you live your life like your living it.

In total delusion.

It's to easy to get under peoples skin...fuck I could toy with you lot if I was so inclined.

Your lucky I'm not like your masters that rule you.

It's very easy to infiltrate any site and draw minds to false conceptions.

You need to know the whole understanding of the spectrum of consciousness to achieve it in stealth mode.

Understand one thing..your talking to someone who knows all this concept and more.

Do I use it to debase...or do I use it to help.

Make up your own minds if you have the neccessary insights.
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Erm! How do I do that?
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It must be so hard living your life. I mean being so much smarter than everyone else. And being able to see into the future and all. I feel for you brother. What's that you cant see in the future and you are no smarter than the average GLPer then my shut the fuck up cause you dont know for sure.
 Quoting: Ozi dude 34311245


My life runs with ease.
does yours?


What would you know you fuckwit...that's your perception in your mind.
It's not in my perception.

Plus it's not about looking into the future dumbass...i'm fully open in my intuition.

It's never been wrong.
The shamans open up into the energy source...so can i.


I know for certain...i don't put anything down unless it comes to pass.
Never been wrong.
That you csn bet on.

live your life amongst humanity like the rest...leave the bigger picture to the others that see.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


You have failed to appear wise, and appear as if you suffer from intellectual retardation... you are prideful, and a fool. The wise are meek, and the lowly gain wisdom, you sir, are a fag. A FAG! With all your Shaman opening up energy sources of BULLSHIT, actually stating that you are aware of perceptionisms, telling people they csn (Children Safety Network) the bet is on. Disgrace utter and total utterness...TOTAL...TO TALL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34295973


I'm getting under some peoples skin.

I sugest you live your life like your living it.

In total delusion.

It's to easy to get under peoples skin...fuck I could toy with you lot if I was so inclined.

Your lucky I'm not like your masters that rule you.

It's very easy to infiltrate any site and draw minds to false conceptions.

You need to know the whole understanding of the spectrum of consciousness to achieve it in stealth mode.

Understand one thing..your talking to someone who knows all this concept and more.

Do I use it to debase...or do I use it to help.

Make up your own minds if you have the neccessary insights.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


Say again?
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Actually this is a good thing because the only way to stop it is my blowing it up with every nuke on the planet and all the uranium needed to build an even bigger one so the world leaders have to work together to give up all their nukes and uranium and then after we blow mercury the planet will be no more nuclear threat on earth. Perfect.
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
I just asked my online contact Nathaniel about this, and both he and his associate Nergal e-mailed me stating the changing of the orbits of our planets in our solar system is a normal process for the continuing shift of our entire solar system to the 5th dimension, which will happen throughout the entire year of 2013, and be fully complete by early 2014.

They both told me that Earth is next. spock
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


Interesting as some theorists claim that March 21rst or March 31rst was the real end-date on the Mayan calendar and Mercury is about 40 days away from earth. If we were to be next the dates would at least fall into place. Just a weird observation I made when reading this.
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What sense does this make?

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Mmm... Why? Do you think it's Ceres?
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Mmm... Why? Do you think it's Ceres?
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Is Mercury on a collision course with the Earth?


Early yesterday morning there was a fairly large eruption from the surface of the sun which hurled a cme in our general direction, this eruption was not shown on any of the models?

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Curious, I began wondering what was so special about this particular eruption that NASA didn't want us to see? So I started looking around GLP for clues and came across this article.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Then it hit me!! Of course! If they updated the models we would all see that Mercury was headed this way?! At first I didn't believe it possible but then I studied the images from Stereo Behind HI1 and sure enough it does appear to be headed our general direction! Interestingly, notice how the images since early on the 10th have been fractalised possibly to confuse?!

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
09-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
10-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
11-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
12-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Latest image
13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


If you consider what you are actually looking at here! As seen from the satellite Mercury should enter the frame from the left as it's orbit, according to models is in a anti-clockwise direction around the sun like all the planets, where in fact the object in the images is seen approaching the Earth from the right or clockwise direction? This is assuming of course that this is actually Mercury we are looking at?!!

So, several questions to ponder. Are we looking at our demise, an illusion or something else?




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Answer: No
I wish I knew how to add pictures here.
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No i'm thinking JPL is full of shit.

ISWA clearly shows Mercury orbit flying out of control.

Then stereo even picks it up flying at us getting larger and brighter as it comes in.


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Is Mercury on a collision course with the Earth?


Early yesterday morning there was a fairly large eruption from the surface of the sun which hurled a cme in our general direction, this eruption was not shown on any of the models?

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Curious, I began wondering what was so special about this particular eruption that NASA didn't want us to see? So I started looking around GLP for clues and came across this article.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Then it hit me!! Of course! If they updated the models we would all see that Mercury was headed this way?! At first I didn't believe it possible but then I studied the images from Stereo Behind HI1 and sure enough it does appear to be headed our general direction! Interestingly, notice how the images since early on the 10th have been fractalised possibly to confuse?!

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
09-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
10-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
11-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
12-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Latest image
13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


If you consider what you are actually looking at here! As seen from the satellite Mercury should enter the frame from the left as it's orbit, according to models is in a anti-clockwise direction around the sun like all the planets, where in fact the object in the images is seen approaching the Earth from the right or clockwise direction? This is assuming of course that this is actually Mercury we are looking at?!!

So, several questions to ponder. Are we looking at our demise, an illusion or something else?




spock
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Answer: No
 Quoting: BlindersRemoved


NO to what though?
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Something to ponder over your cornflakes this morning people...

In the images, if Mercury is in an opposite orbital rotation to the Earth then why is this object assumed to be Mercury gradually getting bigger if it is not approaching?

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

spock
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It isn't getting "bigger" it is getting brighter. Two different statements. Mercury will show phases. When Mercury is between STEREO Behind and the Sun you see the dark side of Mercury, hence it is faint. As it orbits the Sun you see more of the sunlit side and it will get brighter.

This is the same effect Venus goes through. Venus is not brightest when it is closest to the Earth because we see the dark side of Venus. It is brightest some time before or after inferior conjunction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33444413


Sounds fair! So how about the approach? Why is it getting closer when it should be heading away from the Earth as it is in a faster orbit?

Of course it could be that we are heading towards something stationary?

Run the images from the 8th to get the perspective...
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]




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The distance between Mercury and the Earth is not fixed. It does change. The orbital period of Mercury is about 88 days. The synodic period is around 116 days. Mercury is at its closest at inferior conjunction, when Merucry is between the Earth and the Sun. It is at it farthest at superior conjunction, when it is on the far side of the Sun. Between superior and inferior conjunction Mercury will get closer to the Sun. Mercury was at superior conjunction Jan 18. It will be at inferior conjunction Mar 8.

From the point of view of STEREO B Mercury is crossing the image from left to right, towards the Earth. The approach toward Earth will stop around Mar 8, not exactly but around that date. After that Mercury will begin to go right to left away from Earth.
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Something to ponder over your cornflakes this morning people...

In the images, if Mercury is in an opposite orbital rotation to the Earth then why is this object assumed to be Mercury gradually getting bigger if it is not approaching?

08-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

13-02-2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

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It isn't getting "bigger" it is getting brighter. Two different statements. Mercury will show phases. When Mercury is between STEREO Behind and the Sun you see the dark side of Mercury, hence it is faint. As it orbits the Sun you see more of the sunlit side and it will get brighter.

This is the same effect Venus goes through. Venus is not brightest when it is closest to the Earth because we see the dark side of Venus. It is brightest some time before or after inferior conjunction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33444413


Sounds fair! So how about the approach? Why is it getting closer when it should be heading away from the Earth as it is in a faster orbit?

Of course it could be that we are heading towards something stationary?

Run the images from the 8th to get the perspective...
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]



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The distance between Mercury and the Earth is not fixed. It does change. The orbital period of Mercury is about 88 days. The synodic period is around 116 days. Mercury is at its closest at inferior conjunction, when Merucry is between the Earth and the Sun. It is at it farthest at superior conjunction, when it is on the far side of the Sun. Between superior and inferior conjunction Mercury will get closer to the Sun. Mercury was at superior conjunction Jan 18. It will be at inferior conjunction Mar 8.

From the point of view of STEREO B Mercury is crossing the image from left to right, towards the Earth. The approach toward Earth will stop around Mar 8, not exactly but around that date. After that Mercury will begin to go right to left away from Earth.
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Sounds quite plausible! But explain how Mercury could possibly approach the earth if a) both orbit in the same direction and b) Mercury orbits at a faster rate?

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


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[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

14.02.2013
Latest image
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


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Hmmmm....... spock
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It isn't getting "bigger" it is getting brighter. Two different statements. Mercury will show phases. When Mercury is between STEREO Behind and the Sun you see the dark side of Mercury, hence it is faint. As it orbits the Sun you see more of the sunlit side and it will get brighter.

This is the same effect Venus goes through. Venus is not brightest when it is closest to the Earth because we see the dark side of Venus. It is brightest some time before or after inferior conjunction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33444413


Sounds fair! So how about the approach? Why is it getting closer when it should be heading away from the Earth as it is in a faster orbit?

Of course it could be that we are heading towards something stationary?

Run the images from the 8th to get the perspective...
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]



spock
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The distance between Mercury and the Earth is not fixed. It does change. The orbital period of Mercury is about 88 days. The synodic period is around 116 days. Mercury is at its closest at inferior conjunction, when Merucry is between the Earth and the Sun. It is at it farthest at superior conjunction, when it is on the far side of the Sun. Between superior and inferior conjunction Mercury will get closer to the Sun. Mercury was at superior conjunction Jan 18. It will be at inferior conjunction Mar 8.

From the point of view of STEREO B Mercury is crossing the image from left to right, towards the Earth. The approach toward Earth will stop around Mar 8, not exactly but around that date. After that Mercury will begin to go right to left away from Earth.
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Sounds quite plausible! But explain how Mercury could possibly approach the earth if a) both orbit in the same direction and b) Mercury orbits at a faster rate?

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


08.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

14.02.2013
Latest image
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No. Mercury is orbiting correctly. The mean distance of the Earth from the Sun is called 1 AU (around 93,000,000 miles). The mean distance of Mercury from the Sun is just short of 0.4 AU (37,000,000 miles). It varies from 0.3 AU to 0.5 AU

Using just 0.4 AU the distance of Mercury from the Earth at superior conjunction is 1.4 AU. This distance decreases to just 0.6 AU at inferior conjunction.

All the planets orbit in a counter clock wise direction when viewed from above the North pole. Since Mercury orbits faster than the Earth, 88 days for Mercury and 365 days for Earth, Merucry will catch up to and pass Earth every 116 days. After 88 days Mercury has completed one orbit but Earth has completed about 25% of its orbit. It then takes Mercury 28 more days to catch up to the moving Earth.

STEREO B is almost in the same orbit as Earth so Earth will seem to be in the same place relative to the Sun. If the Sun is in the center of the image, Earth will appear to the right. From superior conjunction Mercury starts to the left of the Sun, crosses in front of the Sun and then proceeds to get farther away to the right until inferior conjunction when it start to travel to the left and then passes behind the Sun.

All you are seeing is the relative motion of two objects traveling in circles at different speeds. Imagine a circular race track. The inner, shorter, lane has a speed of say 70 mph. The outer, longer, lane has a speed of 50 mph. The car in the shorter lane will continually pass the car in the longer lane. From the point of view of a fan in the stands the two cars get closer then farther apart but the two cars never collide because they are in different lanes. Mercury is in the inner lane and Earth in the outer lane. They can't collide.
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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
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Sounds fair! So how about the approach? Why is it getting closer when it should be heading away from the Earth as it is in a faster orbit?

Of course it could be that we are heading towards something stationary?

Run the images from the 8th to get the perspective...
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]



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The distance between Mercury and the Earth is not fixed. It does change. The orbital period of Mercury is about 88 days. The synodic period is around 116 days. Mercury is at its closest at inferior conjunction, when Merucry is between the Earth and the Sun. It is at it farthest at superior conjunction, when it is on the far side of the Sun. Between superior and inferior conjunction Mercury will get closer to the Sun. Mercury was at superior conjunction Jan 18. It will be at inferior conjunction Mar 8.

From the point of view of STEREO B Mercury is crossing the image from left to right, towards the Earth. The approach toward Earth will stop around Mar 8, not exactly but around that date. After that Mercury will begin to go right to left away from Earth.
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Sounds quite plausible! But explain how Mercury could possibly approach the earth if a) both orbit in the same direction and b) Mercury orbits at a faster rate?

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


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No. Mercury is orbiting correctly. The mean distance of the Earth from the Sun is called 1 AU (around 93,000,000 miles). The mean distance of Mercury from the Sun is just short of 0.4 AU (37,000,000 miles). It varies from 0.3 AU to 0.5 AU

Using just 0.4 AU the distance of Mercury from the Earth at superior conjunction is 1.4 AU. This distance decreases to just 0.6 AU at inferior conjunction.

All the planets orbit in a counter clock wise direction when viewed from above the North pole. Since Mercury orbits faster than the Earth, 88 days for Mercury and 365 days for Earth, Merucry will catch up to and pass Earth every 116 days. After 88 days Mercury has completed one orbit but Earth has completed about 25% of its orbit. It then takes Mercury 28 more days to catch up to the moving Earth.

STEREO B is almost in the same orbit as Earth so Earth will seem to be in the same place relative to the Sun. If the Sun is in the center of the image, Earth will appear to the right. From superior conjunction Mercury starts to the left of the Sun, crosses in front of the Sun and then proceeds to get farther away to the right until inferior conjunction when it start to travel to the left and then passes behind the Sun.

All you are seeing is the relative motion of two objects traveling in circles at different speeds. Imagine a circular race track. The inner, shorter, lane has a speed of say 70 mph. The outer, longer, lane has a speed of 50 mph. The car in the shorter lane will continually pass the car in the longer lane. From the point of view of a fan in the stands the two cars get closer then farther apart but the two cars never collide because they are in different lanes. Mercury is in the inner lane and Earth in the outer lane. They can't collide.
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Fascinating! But you haven't explained this...

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Fascinating! But you haven't explained this...

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


08.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

14.02.2013
Latest image
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Except that is Venus

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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Fascinating! But you haven't explained this...

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


08.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

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Latest image
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Except that is Venus

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Oh! OK, so why is Venus going the wrong way?

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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Fascinating! But you haven't explained this...

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


08.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

14.02.2013
Latest image
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


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Except that is Venus

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Oh! OK, so why is Venus going the wrong way?

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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Fascinating! But you haven't explained this...

I also notice from Stereo Ahead HI1 today that Mercury is headed the wrong way on there too!! Maybe a camera error do you think?


08.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

10.02.2013
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

14.02.2013
Latest image
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


spock
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Except that is Venus

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Oh! OK, so why is Venus going the wrong way?

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Well I'm sorry but it has to be!

In the model, linked below if I'm looking from Stereo Ahead towards the Earth then the sun should be on the right, which in my images it is so therefore if that was Venus it would be heading straight towards me as ALL the planets orbit the sun in an anti-clockwise orbit!

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


You're wrong on all counts simply because you have failed to notice one simple flaw in your statement... The planets move against the background not with it!

Go to the Stereo Behind HI1 model and run from 20130207 - 20130216 and you will clearly see the Earth appears stationary with respect to the background which moves to the right as does this incoming object which means it cannot be a planet, or not one of ours anyway!


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Re: DOOM maybe BIGGER than you think!!! ~ IS MERCURY (or something else) ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH THE EARTH?? ~ Update 17th Feb!
Don't wish to worry you all, but...

Take a look at these recent images from Stereo Behind HI1. They show Earth to the right and Mercury approaching from the left, but that's up for clarification!

What's interesting is the object that just pops up between them that seems to be Earth directed?

Can't confirm using HI2 as it seems to be faulty??

Maybe nothing, but there again?

Earlier image from 15th without object!
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


Approaching object?

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Last Edited by Just the facts! on 02/17/2013 04:19 AM
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