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IMPLOSION ALERT: Fed Has Bought More Gov't Debt This Year Than Gov't Has Issued

 
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Stock up people, when it happens, is going to be fast and hard.
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I thought I had enough stocked. I'm going to plus it up this week. There's no time to wait. If you think it's going to "business as usual" three months from now... think again.

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for some reason adding another zero to the total debt seems to have no affect on the world market...so who cares I guess
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(CNSNews.com) - So far this calendar year, the Federal Reserve has bought up more U.S. government debt than the U.S. Treasury has issued.

On Dec. 31, the total debt of the U.S. government was $16.4327 trillion and then-Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner announced that the government had hit what was then the legal debt limit. Last week, however, Congress enacted a law to suspend the federal government debt limit until May 18, 2013, and allow the administration to resume increasing the debt.

By the close of business on Wednesday, Feb. 6, according to the U.S. Treasury, the total federal debt had climbed to $16.4799 trillion—an increase of $47.2 billon for the calendar year.

At the close of business on Jan. 2, the Federal Reserve had owned $1.661 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities. By the close of business on Feb. 6, it owned $1.7172 trillion—an increase of $51.1 billion for the calendar year.

Thus, the Federal Reserve’s purchases of U.S. government debt in this calendar year have exceeded the Treasury’s net debt issues by about $3.9 billion.

Also last week, the Federal Reserve announced that it “will continue purchasing additional … longer-term Treasury securities at a pace of $45 billion per month.”

If the Fed continues to purchase $45 billion in additional federal debt each month in 2013 it will buy up another $540 billion in federal debt this year alone...
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diverse local open source currencies are the future hf
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Collapse of the dollar = collapse of all fiat currencies world wide.

Once that is accomplished we will be saved by a new global currency.


So easy to see.
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I suppose, if you consider massive devaluation of your paper wealth as being "saved."

The new conversion rate will destroy the world's savings.

By design.

Get out of paper assets now before it's too late!

Gold, silver, energy, and agriculture may be the only things worth investing in now, other than shorting currencies and the markets.

And Bitcoin, if you like to speculate.

tick-tock, tick-tock
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wow so the $9.00 hr federal minimum wage is to cover up inflation!
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its like re-arranging the furniture on the Titanic !!!

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Too bad they haven't outlawed the dollar.

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This is the roman empire, just not "our roman empire". Constantine hy-jacked christianity to re-build his empire, and boy did he.
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Paul helped him by converting many as well.

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Recovery, bitchez!ohappy
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bloody british humor charlie

Malvinas are argentinian. But you have a very interesting sense of humor bloody british chuckle
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They print money to buy debt that was acquired by printed money! GENIUS!
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If we can print money into infinity like we've been doing, technically we can give each person in the world 1 million dollars.

So long as someone has a bank account, this could easily be done.
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They print money to buy debt that was acquired by printed money! GENIUS!
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EXACTLY!!!! and you people thought the Fed was INSANE!!!
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you have the right to be happy :)
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since you have to continue to work no matter your pay they are not too worried
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Folks,

You need to have Prep's now

You need to have Gun's & ammo now

You need to get you "Victory Garden's" in now

You need everything your gonna need in the future like Medicines etc... "Now"



"It's Over....."

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I have Gold & silver

I will "NOT" barter Gold & Silver during TSHTF

The Gold & Silver is for "If & When" we actually make it out of TSHTF

Prep's will be the only Barter during TSHTF

One Tequila!
Two Tequila!
Three Tequila, ...... Floor!
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ALERT!

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Recovery, bitchez!ohappy
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its like re-arranging the furniture on the Titanic !!!

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why care, if you have a priority bording pass for the lifeboats?
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You people dont realise -

The moment we settle on other planets and start to harvest raw materials from the solar system - EVERYTHING you have ever known is pretty much obsolete.

We have resources out there that haven't even yet been FOUND to science. Imagine the if we find tons and tons of gold on the moon or on mars.

You people should just calm down man - the economy as a global organism cant ever really crash as we have all the resources yet to be found in the solar system to add to the markets and our economy.

The fact that they are not seeking such resources is where the problem lies. This planet is going to become inhospitable to human life not a question of if but when. No plan in place your truly fucked anyway. Humanity has to start and NOW harvesting the aforementioned resources in the solar system.

As a solar systemic organism it is only then we actually have a chance of survival in the universe anyway.

Regards
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I have Gold & silver

I will "NOT" barter Gold & Silver during TSHTF

The Gold & Silver is for "If & When" we actually make it out of TSHTF

Prep's will be the only Barter during TSHTF

 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


so for everyday life you will bart you son ass? Isn't it?

just joking anyway

btw the problem is: if you store metals you have to be 100% sure thay wont have any chance to confiscate it
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You people dont realise -

The moment we settle on other planets and start to harvest raw materials from the solar system - EVERYTHING you have ever known is pretty much obsolete.

We have resources out there that haven't even yet been FOUND to science. Imagine the if we find tons and tons of gold on the moon or on mars.

You people should just calm down man - the economy as a global organism cant ever really crash as we have all the resources yet to be found in the solar system to add to the markets and our economy.

The fact that they are not seeking such resources is where the problem lies. This planet is going to become inhospitable to human life not a question of if but when. No plan in place your truly fucked anyway. Humanity has to start and NOW harvesting the aforementioned resources in the solar system.

As a solar systemic organism it is only then we actually have a chance of survival in the universe anyway.

Regards
Jules
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yep we are goin all to go with our private space crasft to mine in other planet

dude are you on something?

the people....do not have acces to resources and energy even in this planet, don't even mention others

you are talking like a billionaire sitting in his bunker seaping the finest champagne...all'is ok, we are going to...

we?
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They WILL Invade us... I have a very vivvid DREAM about it in 1990's but did not understand... but now I can see how it can all happen.,

I'm wondering how long it's going to be before our creditors (China) start demanding payback because we're turning the American dollar into the Zimbabwean dollar.
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I don't get the gold standard. Why limit your growth artificially like that, especially in an economy where so many need a job and where we have so many tools for small businesses to be created these days. And small businesses create most of the jobs, so there you go. And as far as inflation... is that really an issue as long as the new supply of money creates equal demand via goods and services and people buying them? And it's not like the Fed has done a good job with inflation anyway. See this:

[link to dailybail.com]

One might theorize that the booms and busts are in fact part of the plan to slowly gobble up the economy. Let people build things... take them. Build more.... repo. Repeat forever. Is it really working? No. Why create money as debt and why tie the money supply to a rock that's predominantly elite controlled and whose supply doesn't necessarily grow with the size of an economy anyway? Issue public money. Put in annual limits tied in some fashion to gdp. And perhaps even divide up the money power among all 50 states based on population or something so as to not give all printing power just to the federal govt. I don't know the exact answer, but I think this will allow us to make money servant of humanity instead of the other way around without giving too much power to any one governing body. I sense some good financial minds on this thread.... any thoughts?
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you people. it started like this: people used gold coins and solver coins for barter. these satanic dudes came along with a safe and said we will hold those coins and give you paper IOU's to swap as currency so no one steals your coin. Then they said that they could lend out the paper IOU's fractionally, meaning if they had 10 dollars worth of coins in their safe they could print 1000 IOU's and lend them out with interest, putting people in debt to them. They could then seize that debt through labor or by taking shit like land and horses, maybe their young boy for servitutde. that's how all of this started. ok. now they just punch numbers on a screen and own your soul and time.
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I don't get the gold standard. Why limit your growth artificially like that, especially in an economy where so many need a job and where we have so many tools for small businesses to be created these days. And small businesses create most of the jobs, so there you go. And as far as inflation... is that really an issue as long as the new supply of money creates equal demand via goods and services and people buying them? And it's not like the Fed has done a good job with inflation anyway. See this:

[link to dailybail.com]

One might theorize that the booms and busts are in fact part of the plan to slowly gobble up the economy. Let people build things... take them. Build more.... repo. Repeat forever. Is it really working? No. Why create money as debt and why tie the money supply to a rock that's predominantly elite controlled and whose supply doesn't necessarily grow with the size of an economy anyway? Issue public money. Put in annual limits tied in some fashion to gdp. And perhaps even divide up the money power among all 50 states based on population or something so as to not give all printing power just to the federal govt. I don't know the exact answer, but I think this will allow us to make money servant of humanity instead of the other way around without giving too much power to any one governing body. I sense some good financial minds on this thread.... any thoughts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18880329


you people. it started like this: people used gold coins and solver coins for barter. these satanic dudes came along with a safe and said we will hold those coins and give you paper IOU's to swap as currency so no one steals your coin. Then they said that they could lend out the paper IOU's fractionally, meaning if they had 10 dollars worth of coins in their safe they could print 1000 IOU's and lend them out with interest, putting people in debt to them. They could then seize that debt through labor or by taking shit like land and horses, maybe their young boy for servitutde. that's how all of this started. ok. now they just punch numbers on a screen and own your soul and time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34386416


this scam is no different than Nigerians emailing you with shit. It is a scam, not even a pyramid scam, a crackhead scam that now rules the planet. People go look, we have built cities and have TV, but all of technology is used to create addictions and keep the scammers in control. it is rednecks and mexicans actually making cars, roads, and buildings -- debt is working as you receive fractional IOU's for your labor. then they added credit cards, payday loans, etc.

it really is that stupid.
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since you have to continue to work no matter your pay they are not too worried
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Yes, but you can still choose to change your tax jurisdiction to another location if you want.

Perhaps one that taxes way less than your current one.

Many nations have lower taxes than the USA.

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No country in the history of mankind has ever done this and not experienced some sort of collapse.
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The ancient Roman Empire comes to mind as an excellent example. They also had an over extended military paid with and increasingly worthless currency and a central governmental control structure that was completely corrupt and dethatched from its incompatibly multicultural citizens.
 Quoting: Resister


I've been saying that for years! It's crazy how we're following the same path.
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No country in the history of mankind has ever done this and not experienced some sort of collapse.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The ancient Roman Empire comes to mind as an excellent example. They also had an over extended military paid with and increasingly worthless currency and a central governmental control structure that was completely corrupt and dethatched from its incompatibly multicultural citizens.
 Quoting: Resister


I've been saying that for years! It's crazy how we're following the same path.
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dude, you will still be on this board in 5 years sucking your thumb under agenda21. only difference is you will be sicker, poorer, boils from transhuman chemtrails, but you and all of these other zombies will be here typing bullshit between whacking off to internet porn.

you're all the prisoners that do not want to leave the jail. it is what you know.

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