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TRUCKING RECRUITING SCAM - Shortage Caused By Slavery Employment Conditions & Abuse

 
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I used to do international friehg to mexico but american truckers could not go into mexico with loads. They had freight forwarders in laredo and nogales where I would wait for my trailer to be unloaded in mexico and they would bring it back with shit missing off the trailer.

If they needed a tire they take it and put a baldy back on, needin lights, they take it.
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02/14/2013 09:33 PM
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Buying a cheap truck to start out on your own will mean you need a reserve of approximately $10,000 for repairs in the first year, plus the ability to maintain your truck payments when the rig is in the garage and you are not making any money.

Plus - remember, you are also trying to save money each month to buy a better truck.

You will also find that buying the required insurance, not only for the truck, but for the goods you will be carrying, and for which you are totally responsible in case of damage of any kind, is extremely costly... almost as much as your monthly truck payment on the "deal" you found.

Without experience as a professional trucker, the insurance will be even more costly.

Third, you have to buy your own trucking authority, which is in the $5,000 range.

Fourth, you need several State permits as required for the area(s) of the country through which you will be driving. These will add up potentially to several hundred dollars.

To run your own business as a trucker, you need to find your own loads, which can easily be done online through a subscriber service, or through a freight broker, who will take a cut of your earnings.

The danger of starting out looking for freight yourself is that many fly-by-night companies, or just weasel ones, advertise loads online, and then you will find it extremely difficult to get paid after you make a delivery. Even veteran owner-operators get burned this way. This could result in a solid hit to your finances for that month.

Even with the state of the U.S. economy, a decent used truck will still cost you over $30,000. You need collateral in order to finance.

A CDL from a decent school, and there are far too few of those, will run you, including room and board, another $5,000.

Go for it.

Other truckers please correct my estimates if they are incorrect, or out-of-date.
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02/14/2013 09:36 PM
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Long distance trucking set to be drastically cut.

You do not see 18 wheelers all over Europe as you do in the US. They have no need of them. In the US in order to build roads, sell cars and trucks, we limited the cabotage laws to 2 ports, Elizabeth City and Long Beach. If you take an import from one US port to another you double the port tax, a whooping 12 % jumps to a giant 24%. This is from the Jones Act.
This is about to change and change quickly. We are going from 2 to 40 ports with many ‘rollies’, roll-on-roll-off traieors. (Being Built by Carsyle Group).
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Very interesting contribution to the discussion. Plus, I think rail is going to take more of the freight very soon.
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02/14/2013 09:41 PM
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You can get simple 1 state authority and yes you have to pay up front for it. But if you drive for some outfit, you have money to begin the process and get a feel for what your about to do.

If you want to be home nightly you haul local freight for $1.50 a mile or a fixed rate and forget mileage.

You submit the freight bill and billing to either the shipper who has the contract to ship and pay or you bill the receiver who will pay you in 30 days or be charged a 2 percent late fee.

If your on to the business aspects you will factor your freight billing to your bank and get cash now to operate from.

You don't need a spanking new truck to start.

You need a truck, trailer (reefer, 52 foot dry van or drop deck or flat bed) to haul.

As for repairs and maintenance, you can do it yourself or set up a credit contract with a repair shop.
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02/14/2013 09:43 PM
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Long distance trucking set to be drastically cut.

You do not see 18 wheelers all over Europe as you do in the US. They have no need of them. In the US in order to build roads, sell cars and trucks, we limited the cabotage laws to 2 ports, Elizabeth City and Long Beach. If you take an import from one US port to another you double the port tax, a whooping 12 % jumps to a giant 24%. This is from the Jones Act.
This is about to change and change quickly. We are going from 2 to 40 ports with many ‘rollies’, roll-on-roll-off traieors. (Being Built by Carsyle Group).
 Quoting: Rinty


Very interesting contribution to the discussion. Plus, I think rail is going to take more of the freight very soon.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Rail was going under till freight haulers contracted with the rail to ship long distance freight by rail. It was cheaper and the rates stayed down for shippers as long as there was no jit involved.
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02/14/2013 09:47 PM
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Buying a cheap truck to start out on your own will mean you need a reserve of approximately $10,000 for repairs in the first year, plus the ability to maintain your truck payments when the rig is in the garage and you are not making any money.

Plus - remember, you are also trying to save money each month to buy a better truck.

You will also find that buying the required insurance, not only for the truck, but for the goods you will be carrying, and for which you are totally responsible in case of damage of any kind, is extremely costly... almost as much as your monthly truck payment on the "deal" you found.

Without experience as a professional trucker, the insurance will be even more costly.

Third, you have to buy your own trucking authority, which is in the $5,000 range.

Fourth, you need several State permits as required for the area(s) of the country through which you will be driving. These will add up potentially to several hundred dollars.

To run your own business as a trucker, you need to find your own loads, which can easily be done online through a subscriber service, or through a freight broker, who will take a cut of your earnings.

The danger of starting out looking for freight yourself is that many fly-by-night companies, or just weasel ones, advertise loads online, and then you will find it extremely difficult to get paid after you make a delivery. Even veteran owner-operators get burned this way. This could result in a solid hit to your finances for that month.

Even with the state of the U.S. economy, a decent used truck will still cost you over $30,000. You need collateral in order to finance.

A CDL from a decent school, and there are far too few of those, will run you, including room and board, another $5,000.

Go for it.

Other truckers please correct my estimates if they are incorrect, or out-of-date.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


I've been seeing on craigslist fairly decent trucks going for pennies on the dollar and now would be the time to jump in for such a low cost to acquire a nice truck.

You can go to any truck stop and get the truck paper listing all trucks sellin by dealers and they want em gone so I would think they are dealing to move em off the lot with credit purchases.
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02/14/2013 09:56 PM

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I was a driver for six months, worst job I ever had. 500 + miles every day. And the money is never going to be as good as it once was. Everything in every truck stop is way over priced, and man it is so lonely. You can make more money working two shit jobs, and be home every weekend drinking a beer and grilling a steak. IMHO, Trucking is for suckers.
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02/14/2013 10:27 PM
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Nice video, and YouTube is a mother load. Some good instructional videos there also.

Have to say the $30,000 price for a used tractor is still just about right, and $50,000 would be a better bet for quality.

I know somebody who was driving a couple of years ago with a real clunker. Sad story.
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02/15/2013 11:10 PM
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I work in rental/leasing for medium duty. I'll be reading this thread when I have time.

curious to see what you're saying about the new emission standards and such. Seems that its a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things though.

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I work in rental/leasing for medium duty. I'll be reading this thread when I have time.

curious to see what you're saying about the new emission standards and such. Seems that its a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things though.

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 Quoting: pinkshirtguy


This thread has nothing to do with emission standards.

lolsign

The sorts of things which should be exposed:

Major trucking companies are accomplices with sexually deviant and abusive drivers -- their "zero tolerance" for harassment is just a public relations scam, as is membership of a company like C.R. England with the organization,"Women In Trucking," which gets loads of money for pumping out press releases and doing absolutely nothing where the rubber meets the road. Yes, there are women pulling down six figure salaries in that organization, who really do not care about conditions for women in the industry - it is just another way of paying for their 4-star vacations every year.

Women who pull that on other women exist at many levels - human resources, safety departments, administration staff. If they themselves are safe, they will throw any 'fresh meat' that comes along to the wolves out there.

FOR; MALE AND FEMALE FUTURE STUDENTS TRYING TO GET INTO TRUCKING:

Be aware that carriers receive a government payout in the form of a tax benefit for every single student that comes to Orientation. Whether that student is ever adequately taught by a so-called trainer to even park in a truckstop parking lot is of no concern to the company.

The accounting department already has you added onto their balance sheet.

This is why some companies have classes for 150-200 students in orientation programs every single week of every single year.

Non-stop verbal abuse, bullying, controlling when you go to the bathroom, preventing showers, starving students because of refusing to stop for meals, while the trainer gulps down his supplies of chips, pop, and energy drinks...

FINALLY: You quit because you can't take the sadism of the trainer freak; he throws you out on the road in the middle of the desert in 120 degree heat, because you ticked him off for some reason you don't even know about. He has called you fXXXing stupid so many times, who can remember?

BUT IF YOU SURVIVE the 1-2 months of training, and still manage to get your own truck from the company... Remember to buy a tazer for the muggings you will face. You will be working on the highways of America. It is a war zone.

Sheep for the slaughter.

sheep
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02/19/2013 07:22 PM
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How many guys and gals have CDLs here on GLP?

I am one.
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02/26/2013 03:35 PM
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I run a trucking company if anyone is interested in doing business let me know. Shippers, owner opps....
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To The recruiter;

Well bud of course you are going to say positive things about trucking. It is your bread and butter if you don't get new suckers into the fold. Same thing with temp agencies. You both make your living off the broken backs of desperate people. Shame on you. People are getting sick of the scams and we are too brainwashed to do anything about it. This crap would fly in another country were they would strike at the drop of the hat.
I am suspect of jobs that post like crazy on job sites and send mass emails. It screams high turnover. And why? well it is obvious. And it is obvious that the companies won't make the necessary changes to treat truckers fairly. Both sides are to blame. The companies for being greedy, and unions who are the only ones that can protect the worker for getting bad reps themselves.
And that bulling recruiter lingo that you spout? Well you know where you can stuff it. How dare you act that way to people who are just looking to find a fair job to support their families, who, if they listen to you, will only see on the weekends. This is just another way to split families and keep desperate men from being around their kids.

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