The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE | |
T-Man Entitled title User ID: 29080459 Netherlands 02/13/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE [link to ktla.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34023421 a play by play or yesterdays events. i consider them gospel. you won't mistake a cleaning lady for a 270 lbs. man. burned is burned, just bones lol you knos hos much fire it takes to completly burn a body. and how strong it has to be? but i mean i havnt seen what happened after it started smoking i heard theres basicly nothing left of the house? |
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Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 United States 02/13/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE [link to ktla.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34023421 a play by play or yesterdays events. i consider them gospel. you won't mistake a cleaning lady for a 270 lbs. man. Why couldn't the cleaning lady be fat? Cleaning takes some heft. That cleaning lady coulda been a 300 pounder in a mumu. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 02/13/2013 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE [link to ktla.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34023421 a play by play or yesterdays events. i consider them gospel. you won't mistake a cleaning lady for a 270 lbs. man. The report is that a "charred body was found" it does not describe the size or mass of the remains. No details on Housekeeper #2, only says #1 escaped and called the police. Was Dorner in the cabin when #1 escaped? An immediate bullet to #2's head cannot be ruled out. Just pointing out the holes in the story as of now. What happened to Housekeeper #2? Maybe they forgot about her in all the excitement and left her there still tied up. This thing is turning into a can of worms, isn't it? |
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AtsuiPanda User ID: 16510251 United States 02/13/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Gotta love that his drivers license didnt burn up or completely melt in the fire that was too hot to search for hours. Quoting: TeamReaper Its always them IDs, passports ot drivers licenses, that make it. [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] ikr? :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 United States 02/13/2013 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Well his Mom was out drinking wine & eating chips while watching the standoff at a local restaurant. Article sounded like she wasn't that upset. [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17687147 United States 02/13/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE Big Bear Lake had mines. Mines have tunnels. He had the intelligence and plenty of time to study the mines and their tunnels. Some BB Lake mines: Quoting: Nine's Arctic Canyon Pit Balanced Rock Mine Bessemer Mine Blackhawk Mine Blue Quartz Mine Cushenbury Pit Doble Mine Gold Hill Mine Green Rock Mine Greenlead Mine Harvey K Mine Liberty Mine Marble Canyon Pit Mohawk Mine Monte Cristo Mine Onyx Mine Rose Mine Santa Fe Mine Silver Reef Mine Texas Rock Quarry Wright Mine You are kidding right? He's studying underground mines and is hiding in them? Ridiculous. www.hiphopandpolitics.com this is the suicide note he definately had plans and know how.(if the letter is real) I say if because it was handwritten but according to Dorner he always typed his reports because he had bad handwriting.The to make things really wierd he support gun control in letter right.He's a sailor who couldnt operate a small boat wow let alone untie it?He served in Beharain tunnels everywhere there so he has experience with tunnel engineer maps.In the snip of the radio conversations the lady cop said she spotted a rpg, Dorner wrote down his weapons including class 3 weapons.An rpg would have wiped out a lot of cops; they would of scattered like roaches.Too many discrepencies in the media stories.When his truck broke down why take the time to burn it and leave weapons behind, giving up clues to his whereabouts? I have a lot of questions, I do not think he is alive.I feel he was dead for about a week (bloodstain on cabin walls)he didnt write anything,just all wrong he found evidence and was killed for it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25512669 Canada 02/13/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE opps I missed a few #'s on the address...it's Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 40700 Seven Oaks Rd Angelus Oaks, CA 92305 Ok, about 13 miles apart, so again where did the ammo come from that was exploding during the fire? He just had a shootout, so you would think he couldn't have that much ammo on him and he possibly had very little left on him. imho, the ammo that was "exploding" was misfired incendiary rounds that were launched into the cabin at first. By my estimate, they unloaded at least 10 canisters in there and they are known to misfire.As the fire got going, they cooked off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 906056 United States 02/13/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE these cabins are government owned, so I don't know why it's being reported that Candy Martin owns them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. well, I've seen a record that it is government owned |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18380705 United States 02/13/2013 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE wait wait wait. in the very very begining, there were 2 old people, a man and his wife. they were tied up, but the wife got away and called 911. she id'd dorner. later she was taken "to the retirement home". it wasn't until hours into the standoff, they discovered 2 random female maids who were ALSO tied up in a different cabin. so there were 4 hostages, but the "old couple", who were renting the cabin from the park ranger, have TOTALLY DISAPEARED.... WHERE ARE THEY? THE WIFE WAS THE ORIGINAL ID'ER!!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18380705 United States 02/13/2013 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE these cabins are government owned, so I don't know why it's being reported that Candy Martin owns them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. well, I've seen a record that it is government owned IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34354234 United States 02/13/2013 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE these cabins are government owned, so I don't know why it's being reported that Candy Martin owns them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. i heard HER say it herself on ktla |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34354234 United States 02/13/2013 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE these cabins are government owned, so I don't know why it's being reported that Candy Martin owns them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906056 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. well, I've seen a record that it is government owned IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. i just listened to the press conference and they did not mention the male/female old couple hostages. why no mention of them anymore? and who really owns the cabin? |
Master Chief User ID: 24490286 United States 02/13/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE He didn't escape, he was took out, like the others. And they didn't care that it was obvious, that is what scares me, how bold and blatent it was. Like a public lesson. Quoting: CeeLite One can only hope that 2nd Ammenment patriots will act with as much feerocity, lethality and conviction for their cause as Dornerdid for his. The lesson as I see it will be when they come to take the guns they will show no mercy so ..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34354234 United States 02/13/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE wait wait wait. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705 in the very very begining, there were 2 old people, a man and his wife. they were tied up, but the wife got away and called 911. she id'd dorner. later she was taken "to the retirement home". it wasn't until hours into the standoff, they discovered 2 random female maids who were ALSO tied up in a different cabin. so there were 4 hostages, but the "old couple", who were renting the cabin from the park ranger, have TOTALLY DISAPEARED.... WHERE ARE THEY? THE WIFE WAS THE ORIGINAL ID'ER!!!!!! yes, someone please answer this. they have listed FOUR hostages. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 906056 United States 02/13/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34348145 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. well, I've seen a record that it is government owned IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. i just listened to the press conference and they did not mention the male/female old couple hostages. why no mention of them anymore? and who really owns the cabin? the government does |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18380705 United States 02/13/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34348145 Because she called in to the police and said it was her cabin. I heard the local reporter say it live. well, I've seen a record that it is government owned IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. i just listened to the press conference and they did not mention the male/female old couple hostages. why no mention of them anymore? and who really owns the cabin? right? the couple have diapeared. and they were the ones who started the WHOLE THING! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34354234 United States 02/13/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. i just listened to the press conference and they did not mention the male/female old couple hostages. why no mention of them anymore? and who really owns the cabin? the government does looking for facts not guesses. link? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18380705 United States 02/13/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE IT WAS FIRST REPORTED THAT A MAN NAMED "SILVERMAN" OWNED THE CABIN AND RENTED IT TO THE "OLD COUPLE" WHO HAVE TOTALLY DISAPEARED. i just listened to the press conference and they did not mention the male/female old couple hostages. why no mention of them anymore? and who really owns the cabin? the government does stop shill. the govt' DOES NOT OWN THOSE CABINS. the cabin was 84 years old. there are no "gov't owned" vacation rentals up there. Doesn't anyone remeber the "firefighter" who "grew up in the cabin" they set on fire????? he was the one who told them about the basement and "tunnels" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21303902 United States 02/13/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The story is Dorner had TWO hostages, only ONE escaped, so the charred body is the OTHER HOSTAGE wait... 1. regarding incendiary rounds...r u talking about bullets? I used to fire tracers included in my combat load as an 11B and I never had a "late" tracer so to speak. so what kind of incendiaries? I don't think PD has HE nor Incendiaries in their TOE. 2. can anyone confirm those cabins are government owned? 3. yes, that is a lot of ammo, especially if you consider the government story so far...that he ran into the cabin apparently picked at random. if anyone listens to the radio traffic that had the "burn the mother....." line in it, you'll hear one of the popo's talking about a "RPG" - those warheads are very distinctive and can't be mistaken for anything else. so the more you look into it the more f'ed up the PD narrative becomes |
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