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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
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I usually see fire and the Devil telling me "I'll be waiting for you ;)" then I wake up
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On a more serious note, I had one lucid dream before, and I did see a sky indeed but it wasn't nessesarily black
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On a more serious note, I had one lucid dream before, and I did see a sky indeed but it wasn't nessesarily black
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Ok thank you, was it more like an overcast sky?
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I usually wake up suddenly, no gentle transition
It feels like waking from a normal dream actually, but you are oddly aware.

It feels the same way as getting to the state of sleep paralysis and on to lucid, for me atleast.

like a switch has been flipped

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I usually wake up suddenly, no gentle transition
It feels like waking from a normal dream actually, but you are oddly aware.

It feels the same way as getting to the state of sleep paralysis and on to lucid, for me atleast.

like a switch has been flipped
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You by chance don't notice like a curtain coming down(like when they change scenes during a play), do you?
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On a more serious note, I had one lucid dream before, and I did see a sky indeed but it wasn't nessesarily black
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Ok thank you, was it more like an overcast sky?
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Yes, definitely so.
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I usually wake up suddenly, no gentle transition
It feels like waking from a normal dream actually, but you are oddly aware.

It feels the same way as getting to the state of sleep paralysis and on to lucid, for me atleast.

like a switch has been flipped
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You by chance don't notice like a curtain coming down(like when they change scenes during a play), do you?
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not from my experience, but my dreams goes into vivid dreams instead of the lucid just before I wake up, so the details of how it stops is a blur.
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Thank you for the replies
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
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Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
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Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
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^^ Generally like this for me, too.
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
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Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
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It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29781798


Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
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That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
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Ummmmmmm......



You wake up.
We opened doors by thinking.
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Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
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You could say I was pretty much addicted to it.

I could go back and visit places that I had been to, re-visit 'friends', created friendships/relationships...it was fucking CRAZY. Still do this, but to a much lesser extent. Not even to mention all these strange worlds, and astral realms, etc. Experimented with EVERYTHING.
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29781798


Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
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do you feel like you cant move either? is that what it feels like? i've felt it twice before
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For those that lucid dream what do you see when you make the transition from lucid dreaming to physical body? Does the dream just fade away or does a black sky suddenly form? I am just curious what you see during the transition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29781798


Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


do you feel like you cant move either? is that what it feels like? i've felt it twice before
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Sleep Paralysis. Yes. There is no better time to go OBE. Problem is, it triggers great fear in most people when sleep paralysis occurs.

Got to get over that fear.
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Most of the time you just wake up. I can just lay there coming out of it though, and re-enter the lucid dream state without any disconnect.

There is a lot more you can do, just varies on how good you have become at it. Waking gently up from one is a great time to try for an OBE.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


^^ Generally like this for me, too.
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


do you feel like you cant move either? is that what it feels like? i've felt it twice before
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Sleep Paralysis. Yes. There is no better time to go OBE. Problem is, it triggers great fear in most people when sleep paralysis occurs.

Got to get over that fear.
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yeah I remember freaking out the first time and thought someone was on top of me. the second time I just laid there and stared around. is there any way to control it? and when I wake up like that what do I do, besides staying calm.
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If you meditate, it would help greatly. You could do a form of meditation to slow your emotions down. After a couple experiences, you will start feeling a fine vibration running through your body. When you feel those, you concentrate on those, relaxing, though focusing on them. Then, you try and 'stretch' out of your body. Another technique is to imagine you are a balloon, and try and inflate yourself to fill up the room.

After trying this a few times, you might get successful and pop out of your body. At that point you'll get real excited, and you'll get pulled back into your body.

Always have to stay calm and relaxed.
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^^ Generally like this for me, too.
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


You could say I was pretty much addicted to it.

I could go back and visit places that I had been to, re-visit 'friends', created friendships/relationships...it was fucking CRAZY. Still do this, but to a much lesser extent. Not even to mention all these strange worlds, and astral realms, etc. Experimented with EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Create a thread with techniques that you used and share some of your stories please :)
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One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield"
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I'm trying to lucid dream but I smoke weed so it's been a struggle.

The past 5 days I have remembered my dreams for the first time since I started toking by interrupting my sleep throughout the night

Hopefully when I quit smoking I'll have a massive REM rebound and lucid dream easily
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It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


You could say I was pretty much addicted to it.

I could go back and visit places that I had been to, re-visit 'friends', created friendships/relationships...it was fucking CRAZY. Still do this, but to a much lesser extent. Not even to mention all these strange worlds, and astral realms, etc. Experimented with EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Create a thread with techniques that you used and share some of your stories please :)
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I've got a thread with a few of my stories. The problem arose when they got too long and detailed. It was taking me hours to write just one night down. So I stopped writing them down.
Thread: HourGlass
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That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
 Quoting: Junkyard Lily


You could say I was pretty much addicted to it.

I could go back and visit places that I had been to, re-visit 'friends', created friendships/relationships...it was fucking CRAZY. Still do this, but to a much lesser extent. Not even to mention all these strange worlds, and astral realms, etc. Experimented with EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Create a thread with techniques that you used and share some of your stories please :)
 Quoting: Kael


I've got a thread with a few of my stories. The problem arose when they got too long and detailed. It was taking me hours to write just one night down. So I stopped writing them down.
Thread: HourGlass
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Thanks :)
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Here's a good one.

Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 5:00 AM

Transmuting Dreamscape and Interior to Energy Forms

I was having a very vivid dream with Will and I fixing PVC piping for irrigation in a yard. We were having reminiscent conversations about college relations. Nothing important, though it was a great feeling of camaraderie, like it usually is nowadays when we talk.

We finished one set of pipes. For some reason portions of the pipes were above ground by about one foot.

That is when a black woman came up to us; the owner. She asked us to put the PVC piping all the way underground so it was not protruding up from the ground. We told her that we could, but it would require entirely redoing it. Costly. She said to nevermind. She showed us another PVC pipe that was leaking. All it needed was some PVC pipe weld to fix. We were done. There is an impression that there was another girl there, our age, talking with us, but I don’t remember much about her.]

We finished the job and walked around the left side of the building. A few big trees were around. A large stone block wall was in the ‘backyard’ that was about 20 feet tall. It stretched off to the right, but ended at the property line on the left. There were lots of bushes and an open ‘backyard’ backing up to this property.

I have tried to fly in every dream I have. This is a repetition that I am working on as a trigger. I know if I fly, even for just a brief moment, it will trigger my lucidity. Will and I were walking towards the other backyard when I decided to float a few feet off the ground. Instantly it triggered my lucidity. I could not believe I was in the dream because it was so vivid and so ‘ordinary’ to everyday. I laughed and got really excited because I wanted to try an experiment taken from Carlos Castenada’s writings of his interaction with don Juan. It concerns energy.

I am finding that spoken intentions are the most powerful form of ‘sorcery’ in the Lucid Dream state. This was a dual experiment. I am studying what actions are the most fruitful in acquiring a desired result, and the expenditure of energy that that action would cost. Energy expenditure is critical. Too much energy expended results in less cohesion of the altered states, less time able to spend in altered state, less ability in ‘sorcery’, and tremendously lowers the odds that you can break out of the etheric body and travel to regions even beyond the etheric. These regions are more real than the everyday waking world, and always contain archetypes and symbolism and at least (and usually) one sentient/intelligent entity of a various form(s); Light, normal body, Voice, etc.

Spoken intentions are incredibly powerful and require an extremely low amount of energy expenditure in its operation. It is almost as if it pulls the energy from your surroundings instead of directly from your own base energy. They are so simple to perform that at first I refuted to believe that spoken intentions would actually work. When I decided to finally try them I chose “Clarity”. I was thoroughly amazed when the dreamscape instantly became clearer.

So my experiment for this lucid dream was two-fold. First, find out how powerful intention could be. I wanted to see if I could intend to transmute the dream to forms of pure energy. This was/is extremely exciting to me because I have no idea as to what the result will be. Actually, I had one idea; I thought that I would see my surroundings as light tendrils, or vibrational frequencies. What would that look like? What would my body look like? I thought that I would look like my etheric body, like a blob of light formed in human shape, with the egg-shaped auric field surrounding me. I was way, way off base.

So I floated the few feet back to the ground, excited that I had become lucid. I gathered and structured how I would voice the Intention in my consciousness. I wanted to get it properly stated. Then I spoke the Intention. I noticed the volume change coming from my voice. When speaking Intentions in the lucid state of altered consciousness, your voice is booming. It is loud, strong and firm with confidence. There is also a reverberation that seems to cover the universe.

“I wish to change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” My body started slightly tingling like a small, extremely fine vibration. But there was no change in my vision. This is why the structuring and proper word usage is important to Intentions. I changed it up. I reasoned that the wording was wrong because I used the words “wish to change”. It was not a direct action. “I change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” Vibrations in my body got stronger. There was a perceived glowing of a golden white color traced throughout objects in the dream, but it wouldn’t fully manifest itself. I was getting excited, letting my emotions drip into the event. I steadied myself and put my hands up in front of my vision. There were visible, strong tracery lights, thousands of them, racing through my hands. They were a part of my hands, they were my hands. They lights became more solid than my hand. It was as if my normal hands were becoming transparent, or better yet, transmuting into energy. Still, I wanted to view everything in pure energy and dispense of the residual 3D aspects of the dream. While looking at my hands for stability and signs of change, I stated, “Change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” I said it this way thinking that it would touch the energy from my subconscious. I do not know if that is what happened, or if it was my extremely direct intention, or if it just took that long for my pure consciousness to transmute the environment visually into energy. It could have even been the entities that I was about to meet. But, it worked. It was like nothing I have ever experienced and was far different from any expectations that I had.

My physical hands dissolved as well as the entire dreamscape. Black flooded the dissolution of 3D physicality. My hands were outlined only in racing energy lines of a golden white color. Only an outline of them, the hands were otherwise transparent, or non-existent save as a 2D glowing outline. Like when, as a kid, you would trace the outline of your hand onto paper. I could move them in the darkness and the outline would shift to represent there configuration, but they remained as only golden white outlines. There was no glow from the light.

And there was something more, something disconcerting. This would throw a screwball into the entire experience. Like I have said numerous times; always in these experiments, these spiritual revelations, there is something more. Something that will stretch you beyond what you think you know. My hands were alien. They were slim, with only three fingers that could bend in any direction as if without bones. It was disconcerting, because I knew this was me, this was my energy body. Deep down, beyond what I would ever think this question would reveal, I always have thought and believed that there is so, so much more to life than what we experience in our normal 3D existence. So much that we, as spiritual beings, have yet to remember. The question that immediately came to mind; “What am I?” And I meant that. Truly, what am I?
I looked around into the darkness. There were four other glowing 2D entities. I say the word ‘entities’ because I could feel their consciousness. I innately knew beyond a doubt that these were living things. Three of them were exactly the same. They were blob shaped. Like the shape of silly putty when you ball it up and squish it slightly on a table. More round on top, more flat on bottom. They had a line that went from the bottom to perhaps 1/3rd from the top. This seemed to designate the front of them, as their movements depicted also. They seemed unbothered by my presence, though curious for the fleeting moment after the transmutation of the environment. The fourth seemed extremely interested in me. The closest and only possible way to describe this entity is if you imagine an alien wasp. It had appendages that looked like the shape of wasp wings, but they didn’t move, or flap for its movement. Again, these entities are all just energy outlines with no substance in the interior of the outlines. Just like I was as seen by my alien, three fingered hands. (My right hand had a ‘band’, like a ring on my outside finger). The entity would get close to me and I would yell at it trying to frighten it away. It was the size of a large dog. There was no horizon, only blackness, so all of us seemed to be floating there. It knew where my consciousness was centered because it would always float up to the direction of my visual center.

I was worried. I had some anxiety because of the completely alien concepts I was having to comprehend, having to – on the spot – adapt to. I was unsure of what would happen if the wasp entity and I merged energies, if we touched. It made about three passes towards me, each time getting braver and closer. I had no idea what to do to keep it away. I tried the only thing I could think of; I roared and raised my hands towards it making defensive gestures. This had absolutely no effect on the entity. I must state that I did not feel any type of emotion emanating from the form. But without any context to what or where I was, I refused to let this entity touch me. I think it was the fourth time it floated so close to me it appeared that it would not stop. I pulled myself out, straight into my body lying in bed, wide awake. I was still vibrating with energy through my body, strong, but fine and pleasant. After about half an hour the vibrations subsided. After about an hour, I was finally able to go back to sleep.

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^^ Generally like this for me, too.
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It's fun. But, I went about 2 years straight lucid dreaming every night. I was concerned there might be side effects from being consciously awake/aware for so long non-stop. I rarely had moments where I wasn't consciously 'aware' and consciously awake.

No side effects that I have found, except to say life has grown extremely long for me. And, it is like my intelligence went through the roof. I can remember things extremely easy nowadays. I would be lucid in dreams for hours/days, and one time even a 3week period. Hard to describe. Not to mention the astral travels and 'other lives' lived, etc.

I pretty much have them every night now, but I have toned them down by intention, so they are not quite so vivid, and so I don't have them throughout the night. I'll have them for a couple hours in the morning hours mostly now.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That's really cool. I can agree with a lot of what you wrote. It's nice you're able to have them so often. I haven't been able to tone mine down (haven't thought to, either, will have to try)--they're either there, or they aren't, for me. I had about a month straight recently where I was having them almost every single night, it tired me out. I'm glad to be back to normal dreaming again, for the time being. afro
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You could say I was pretty much addicted to it.

I could go back and visit places that I had been to, re-visit 'friends', created friendships/relationships...it was fucking CRAZY. Still do this, but to a much lesser extent. Not even to mention all these strange worlds, and astral realms, etc. Experimented with EVERYTHING.
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Spot on! It's like that for me, too. I read some of your posts here on the thread and OPs comments, I'll see if I can dig any of my journal entries with lucid bits. I have a thread here where I mention some of my lucid experiences, lately, would love some input. I will definitely check out your thread tonight or tomorrow, Septenary Man.

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Here's a good one.

Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 5:00 AM

Transmuting Dreamscape and Interior to Energy Forms

I was having a very vivid dream with Will and I fixing PVC piping for irrigation in a yard. We were having reminiscent conversations about college relations. Nothing important, though it was a great feeling of camaraderie, like it usually is nowadays when we talk.

We finished one set of pipes. For some reason portions of the pipes were above ground by about one foot.

That is when a black woman came up to us; the owner. She asked us to put the PVC piping all the way underground so it was not protruding up from the ground. We told her that we could, but it would require entirely redoing it. Costly. She said to nevermind. She showed us another PVC pipe that was leaking. All it needed was some PVC pipe weld to fix. We were done. There is an impression that there was another girl there, our age, talking with us, but I don’t remember much about her.]

We finished the job and walked around the left side of the building. A few big trees were around. A large stone block wall was in the ‘backyard’ that was about 20 feet tall. It stretched off to the right, but ended at the property line on the left. There were lots of bushes and an open ‘backyard’ backing up to this property.

I have tried to fly in every dream I have. This is a repetition that I am working on as a trigger. I know if I fly, even for just a brief moment, it will trigger my lucidity. Will and I were walking towards the other backyard when I decided to float a few feet off the ground. Instantly it triggered my lucidity. I could not believe I was in the dream because it was so vivid and so ‘ordinary’ to everyday. I laughed and got really excited because I wanted to try an experiment taken from Carlos Castenada’s writings of his interaction with don Juan. It concerns energy.

I am finding that spoken intentions are the most powerful form of ‘sorcery’ in the Lucid Dream state. This was a dual experiment. I am studying what actions are the most fruitful in acquiring a desired result, and the expenditure of energy that that action would cost. Energy expenditure is critical. Too much energy expended results in less cohesion of the altered states, less time able to spend in altered state, less ability in ‘sorcery’, and tremendously lowers the odds that you can break out of the etheric body and travel to regions even beyond the etheric. These regions are more real than the everyday waking world, and always contain archetypes and symbolism and at least (and usually) one sentient/intelligent entity of a various form(s); Light, normal body, Voice, etc.

Spoken intentions are incredibly powerful and require an extremely low amount of energy expenditure in its operation. It is almost as if it pulls the energy from your surroundings instead of directly from your own base energy. They are so simple to perform that at first I refuted to believe that spoken intentions would actually work. When I decided to finally try them I chose “Clarity”. I was thoroughly amazed when the dreamscape instantly became clearer.

So my experiment for this lucid dream was two-fold. First, find out how powerful intention could be. I wanted to see if I could intend to transmute the dream to forms of pure energy. This was/is extremely exciting to me because I have no idea as to what the result will be. Actually, I had one idea; I thought that I would see my surroundings as light tendrils, or vibrational frequencies. What would that look like? What would my body look like? I thought that I would look like my etheric body, like a blob of light formed in human shape, with the egg-shaped auric field surrounding me. I was way, way off base.

So I floated the few feet back to the ground, excited that I had become lucid. I gathered and structured how I would voice the Intention in my consciousness. I wanted to get it properly stated. Then I spoke the Intention. I noticed the volume change coming from my voice. When speaking Intentions in the lucid state of altered consciousness, your voice is booming. It is loud, strong and firm with confidence. There is also a reverberation that seems to cover the universe.

“I wish to change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” My body started slightly tingling like a small, extremely fine vibration. But there was no change in my vision. This is why the structuring and proper word usage is important to Intentions. I changed it up. I reasoned that the wording was wrong because I used the words “wish to change”. It was not a direct action. “I change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” Vibrations in my body got stronger. There was a perceived glowing of a golden white color traced throughout objects in the dream, but it wouldn’t fully manifest itself. I was getting excited, letting my emotions drip into the event. I steadied myself and put my hands up in front of my vision. There were visible, strong tracery lights, thousands of them, racing through my hands. They were a part of my hands, they were my hands. They lights became more solid than my hand. It was as if my normal hands were becoming transparent, or better yet, transmuting into energy. Still, I wanted to view everything in pure energy and dispense of the residual 3D aspects of the dream. While looking at my hands for stability and signs of change, I stated, “Change my normal vision from its present view to instead view everything in its natural energy state.” I said it this way thinking that it would touch the energy from my subconscious. I do not know if that is what happened, or if it was my extremely direct intention, or if it just took that long for my pure consciousness to transmute the environment visually into energy. It could have even been the entities that I was about to meet. But, it worked. It was like nothing I have ever experienced and was far different from any expectations that I had.

My physical hands dissolved as well as the entire dreamscape. Black flooded the dissolution of 3D physicality. My hands were outlined only in racing energy lines of a golden white color. Only an outline of them, the hands were otherwise transparent, or non-existent save as a 2D glowing outline. Like when, as a kid, you would trace the outline of your hand onto paper. I could move them in the darkness and the outline would shift to represent there configuration, but they remained as only golden white outlines. There was no glow from the light.

And there was something more, something disconcerting. This would throw a screwball into the entire experience. Like I have said numerous times; always in these experiments, these spiritual revelations, there is something more. Something that will stretch you beyond what you think you know. My hands were alien. They were slim, with only three fingers that could bend in any direction as if without bones. It was disconcerting, because I knew this was me, this was my energy body. Deep down, beyond what I would ever think this question would reveal, I always have thought and believed that there is so, so much more to life than what we experience in our normal 3D existence. So much that we, as spiritual beings, have yet to remember. The question that immediately came to mind; “What am I?” And I meant that. Truly, what am I?
I looked around into the darkness. There were four other glowing 2D entities. I say the word ‘entities’ because I could feel their consciousness. I innately knew beyond a doubt that these were living things. Three of them were exactly the same. They were blob shaped. Like the shape of silly putty when you ball it up and squish it slightly on a table. More round on top, more flat on bottom. They had a line that went from the bottom to perhaps 1/3rd from the top. This seemed to designate the front of them, as their movements depicted also. They seemed unbothered by my presence, though curious for the fleeting moment after the transmutation of the environment. The fourth seemed extremely interested in me. The closest and only possible way to describe this entity is if you imagine an alien wasp. It had appendages that looked like the shape of wasp wings, but they didn’t move, or flap for its movement. Again, these entities are all just energy outlines with no substance in the interior of the outlines. Just like I was as seen by my alien, three fingered hands. (My right hand had a ‘band’, like a ring on my outside finger). The entity would get close to me and I would yell at it trying to frighten it away. It was the size of a large dog. There was no horizon, only blackness, so all of us seemed to be floating there. It knew where my consciousness was centered because it would always float up to the direction of my visual center.

I was worried. I had some anxiety because of the completely alien concepts I was having to comprehend, having to – on the spot – adapt to. I was unsure of what would happen if the wasp entity and I merged energies, if we touched. It made about three passes towards me, each time getting braver and closer. I had no idea what to do to keep it away. I tried the only thing I could think of; I roared and raised my hands towards it making defensive gestures. This had absolutely no effect on the entity. I must state that I did not feel any type of emotion emanating from the form. But without any context to what or where I was, I refused to let this entity touch me. I think it was the fourth time it floated so close to me it appeared that it would not stop. I pulled myself out, straight into my body lying in bed, wide awake. I was still vibrating with energy through my body, strong, but fine and pleasant. After about half an hour the vibrations subsided. After about an hour, I was finally able to go back to sleep.

 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Septenary Man


This dream is amazing, and reminds me very much of the types of dreams I have. I have not done what you have done, but I will try, soon! And I totally agree about the spoken intention/booming voice thing, it is usually like that for me when I am "dispelling" things (for lack of a better word). Very interesting. It's so funny to me, too, because you write with a lot of detail--like I do when writing down my lucid dreams, I know to some they may look just like stories, but totally not! I'm with you in experiencing how real they are, and how sharp the recall.
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My lucid dreams are mostly after I wake up from a startling dream. I then remember the end details of the dream know it was just a dream but i still remember it well enough I go back to sleep but am now in that dream and aware its all a dream and am mostly in complete control of myself. often times i finally wake up after I die in the dream never afraid im going to die more disappointed because I know im going to wake up cause that dream came to game over. I guess my mind hasnt been able to go back in time in a dream prior to my demise in it and relive it differently id love to do that. I dont control the whole dream but some parts i can at times ive teleported instantly out of bad situations that were going to end in my demise. but again i cant go back to the situation after i teleport or back in time in the dream.

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