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Police GUILTY Of Premeditated Arson & Murder of Christopher Dorner!

 
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Ah yes, clearly I was mistaken, Brief, you're a fine example of of everything that is right with America these days.
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Apology accepted, you're Canadian we understand.
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I just have one question: When you get up in the morning, and, like each day, you come to the realization that you have another 18 hours to go in your ignorance, does it hurt? Do you have to take certain drugs to keep you going?
Just asking from a purely anthropological curiosity.
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What particular facts do you think I'm ignorant about?
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Brief, would you and your little friend please stop
trashing this thread with your stupid garbage.
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This is a pretty in depth article on the subject. Sounds like they have known about the risks involved in this tear gas delivery system for years?


[link to www.nytimes.com]

If tear gas grenades, which the F.B.I. denies using, had been thrown into the building, there might have been some danger of fire, since grenades and shells incorporate pyrotechnic chemicals similar to the bursting explosives and flame-makers used in fireworks. These burning agents are needed in tear gas projectiles to turn the CS to mist, and the pyrotechnics, which heat up the tear gas shells, can start fires.

Good point. He would have had his day in court. His defense would have embarrassed the police. He could have wrote a book about it. That would have been smart revenge if revenge was his motive.
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My late cousin's good friend (back before he became violent), H. Rap Brown, killed a cop and lived to tell the tale. So it can be done. I'm not sure if it can be done in LA.
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Apology accepted, you're Canadian we understand.
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I just have one question: When you get up in the morning, and, like each day, you come to the realization that you have another 18 hours to go in your ignorance, does it hurt? Do you have to take certain drugs to keep you going?
Just asking from a purely anthropological curiosity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7058809


What particular facts do you think I'm ignorant about?
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief, would you and your little friend please stop
trashing this thread with your stupid garbage.
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stupthrd
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This is a pretty in depth article on the subject. Sounds like they have known about the risks involved in this tear gas delivery system for years?


[link to www.nytimes.com]

If tear gas grenades, which the F.B.I. denies using, had been thrown into the building, there might have been some danger of fire, since grenades and shells incorporate pyrotechnic chemicals similar to the bursting explosives and flame-makers used in fireworks. These burning agents are needed in tear gas projectiles to turn the CS to mist, and the pyrotechnics, which heat up the tear gas shells, can start fires.
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strange... they usually use the white phosphorous grenades...
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This is a pretty in depth article on the subject. Sounds like they have known about the risks involved in this tear gas delivery system for years?


[link to www.nytimes.com]

If tear gas grenades, which the F.B.I. denies using, had been thrown into the building, there might have been some danger of fire, since grenades and shells incorporate pyrotechnic chemicals similar to the bursting explosives and flame-makers used in fireworks. These burning agents are needed in tear gas projectiles to turn the CS to mist, and the pyrotechnics, which heat up the tear gas shells, can start fires.
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strange... they usually use the white phosphorous grenades...
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לא, אלה הם שלנו.
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shit like this video here is why people who question things get lumped in with nutjobs. stick to the facts. stick to legit pieces of the puzzle and knock it off with all this bullshit numbers and wacko shit
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Defense Technology Riot Control Pyrotechnic Grenade, Continuous Discharge

•The device should not be deployed onto rooftops, in crawl spaces, or indoors due to its fire-producing capability

[link to www.chiefsupply.com]
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223152


I dont think he murdered anyone.

I think he killed a couple cops in self defence.

I presume innocence until guilt is proven. I most certainly DO NOT believe a bunch of corrupt cops that shoot to kill and burn down houses to kill occupants they have not even identified.

If he was a cold murderer he would not left those women unharmed. They would be dead if he were who you think he is.
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why didn't the snow melt around the cabin that burned hotly all night, and why did they say Cindy Martin owned the property he was hiding out in and now are saying it is this older couple?
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Just because a man has been wronged by the system doesn't allow him to go around shooting cops and deputy sheriffs.

If its either him or me, trust me I'd rather that its him. You can't reason with someone whose lost their mind. He had nothing more to lose so he decided he'd go down in a blaze of glory.

That was hi choice.
 Quoting: The Dudester


Wow ! You sound like MSN verbatim. You have no idea who Mr.Dorner was or IF the alleged crimes were commited by him.

Lets ALL be honest here LAPD has had decades of corruption.
Rampart Scandal ,Joe Jones Manifesto, Rodney King just to name a few.
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Yes, he did commit those crimes. This is a fact.
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Were you there?? Did you see Dorner shoot the gun? Ofc you didnt stfu
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HE LIVES
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223152


Saved Ca taxpayers alot of money!

Dorner knew what they would do when they had him pinned
in the cabin. He was a CA cop!

Ca police were insanely angry at this guy for killing
their own. That's how we handle things in CA.
The OLD WILD WEST!

I think there will be an investigation, but nothing
really will become of it.

HAPPY VD!
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
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We love our Country?

[link to www.archives.gov]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia



How can you love America and hate the law? Be honest, what you love is hypocrisy, because you believe that Dorner was not given due process, yet at the same time you are not willing to condemn Dorner for denying the police officers that he murdered their right to due process. What crimes were they convicted of? Who made Dorner a righteous judge, jury, and executioner?
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223152


Saved Ca taxpayers alot of money!

Dorner knew what they would do when they had him pinned
in the cabin. He was a CA cop!

Ca police were insanely angry at this guy for killing
their own. That's how we handle things in CA.
The OLD WILD WEST!

I think there will be an investigation, but nothing
really will become of it.

HAPPY VD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34393299


fighter
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Yes he did die fighting.They sure cooked his goose.
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223152


FUCK THE BASTARD.....and you too! We want DUE PROCESS in this country. We want the cops to obey the laws but they show us many times over that they are somehow above the law.

They wanted this guy dead ASAP....he knew way too much about something.

THEY DO NOT OFFER MILLION DOLLAR REWARDS FOR JUST ANYONE.....OK
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Absolutely! They tout and run their mouths about US breaking the law and don't do the crime if you cannot do the time, Yet are the BIGGEST CRIMINALS over everyone else!!!
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An innocent man who was killed by the police, then slandered. Check out the movie:

[link to www.wweek.com]

The story is one familiar to any Portlander who has picked up a newspaper any time in the past seven years: Chasse, crippled by schizophrenia but by all accounts harmless, was beaten by Portland police, died in custody and was the subject of a massive cover-up that portrayed him as a monster.

Alien Boy: The Life and Death of James Chasse
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223152


Saved Ca taxpayers alot of money!

Dorner knew what they would do when they had him pinned
in the cabin. He was a CA cop!

Ca police were insanely angry at this guy for killing
their own. That's how we handle things in CA.
The OLD WILD WEST!

I think there will be an investigation, but nothing
really will become of it.

HAPPY VD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34393299


:fighter:
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


Good one!!!! Lulz!!!!!
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I don't think so....they clearly talk about burning him out.....I heard it live....he knew too much something.
THEY WANTED HIM DEAD ASAP
 Quoting: CtYankee


Again that's the term they use to use a particular kind of teargas canister...yes they wanted to flush him out, but with teargas, although they do know that a "burner" canister has set fires in the past.
 Quoting: BRIEF


If that was the case then they would not have been so cryptic about it when the were talking to each other over the police radio....they were very careful NOT TO SAY BURN....one cop said "you know we talked about"

If the trem "burn" truly means what you say they would have freely spoken this trem.

I dont think when someone said BURN THAT MOTHERFUCKER DOWN they were asking for a gas gernade

Brief....you have some abilty to see truth...I read your comments. No way on earth I'm going to buy this EXCUSE to defend the crazy actions of the cops

EDIT FOR SPELTARDS
 Quoting: CtYankee


They knew the gas could set a fire, and I think they were afraid that Dorner could be listening to them so they were as cryptic as they could be...I'm certain they weren't going to take him alive because of the racial allegations...Lord knows they didn't want that coming out in a trial. If they flushed him out and he surrendered they couldn't just execute him, so launching the gas and accidentally setting the place on fire was the safest decision.
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OK....that I could believe.....but as a cop he always knew what was comming....right? Code or not!
CtYankee

"If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous


-Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972-

Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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yeah i watched and listened to it all go down...they burnt it on purpose...that press conference was an insult...makes people that heard the truth look like the liars...eff thme
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He killed innocent people because he was butthurt, he should have been executed like the animal he is.

Why are you tards even defending this cowardice murderer?
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Saved Ca taxpayers alot of money!

Dorner knew what they would do when they had him pinned
in the cabin. He was a CA cop!

Ca police were insanely angry at this guy for killing
their own. That's how we handle things in CA.
The OLD WILD WEST!

I think there will be an investigation, but nothing
really will become of it.

HAPPY VD!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34393299


fighter
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


Good one!!!! Lulz!!!!!
 Quoting: J&V


funny shit
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Divide and conqueror.
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Soon there will be millions like him hunting the corrupt officials & bankers, they had better start warming the bunkers up...I for one will be one of those welding their bunker doors shut.
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The fire was started by teargas...A "burner" is a type of teargas that does sometimes set fires, but it's more powerful than a "colder" type of gas canister. When they said "burn the motherfucker" they didn't mean the house they meant to use that brand of gas.
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Shut up Brief, this apologist behaviour of yours is getting really tiring.
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Nobody is apologizing, it's just what happened, you'll see.
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having a hard time finding such a type of teargas.....are you saying the through a pyrotechnic device, with purpose to just burn and nohting more?
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i just heard a police recording on HLN channel, where the cops are sayin gburh the fucker down, over and over again, this does seem liek the intention was to destroy the evidence and not apprehend the man
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The fire was started by teargas...A "burner" is a type of teargas that does sometimes set fires, but it's more powerful than a "colder" type of gas canister. When they said "burn the motherfucker" they didn't mean the house they meant to use that brand of gas.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Shut up Brief, this apologist behaviour of yours is getting really tiring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7058809


Nobody is apologizing, it's just what happened, you'll see.
 Quoting: BRIEF


having a hard time finding such a type of teargas.....are you saying the through a pyrotechnic device, with purpose to just burn and nohting more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447


No the canister of gas itself produces heat as it deploys the gas so it may cause a fire, but that's not its intent...
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