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Markets Have Turned South After GDP Bombs Everywhere!!! Futures Slump As Global Q4 GDPs Dump!!!

 
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FTSE 100 /quotes/zigman/3173262 6,318 -41 0.65%
DAX /quotes/zigman/2380246 7,622 -90 1.17%
CAC 40 /quotes/zigman/3173214 3,675 -24 0.64%
FTSE MIB /quotes/zigman/1482176 16,532 -180 1.08%
IBEX 35 /quotes/zigman/2759620 8,163 -146 1.76%
Stoxx 600 /quotes/zigman/2380150 287 -1 0.44%
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Dow /quotes/zigman/627449 13,950 -34 0.24%
Nasdaq /quotes/zigman/12633936 3,187 -9 0.28%
S&P 500 /quotes/zigman/3870025 1,517 -3 0.22%
GlobalDow /quotes/zigman/629063 2,103 -11 0.52%
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FTSE 100 /quotes/zigman/3173262 6,318 -41 0.65%
DAX /quotes/zigman/2380246 7,622 -90 1.17%
CAC 40 /quotes/zigman/3173214 3,675 -24 0.64%
FTSE MIB /quotes/zigman/1482176 16,532 -180 1.08%
IBEX 35 /quotes/zigman/2759620 8,163 -146 1.76%
Stoxx 600 /quotes/zigman/2380150 287 -1 0.44%

 Quoting: Luisport


Not to bad, considering!!!
Markets are strange nowdays my friend.
One day will wake up to a total new reallity.....

gasp

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FTSE 100 /quotes/zigman/3173262 6,318 -41 0.65%
DAX /quotes/zigman/2380246 7,622 -90 1.17%
CAC 40 /quotes/zigman/3173214 3,675 -24 0.64%
FTSE MIB /quotes/zigman/1482176 16,532 -180 1.08%
IBEX 35 /quotes/zigman/2759620 8,163 -146 1.76%
Stoxx 600 /quotes/zigman/2380150 287 -1 0.44%

 Quoting: Luisport


Not to bad, considering!!!
Markets are strange nowdays my friend.
One day will wake up to a total new reallity.....

gasp
 Quoting: Limpan


yes, markets it's just that... not great indicator, but GDP values are a big thing... our last trimester GDP value sink 3,8%!
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02/14/2013 10:06 AM
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...


why?
 Quoting: Luisport


It has been the plan all along... collapse the dollar, reign in and slaughter the Republicans/Christians in civil war, then full scale communism... get ready its coming...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


hiding
 Quoting: Luisport


Its not a joke... get fuckin ready bad shit coming.... its all backed by the bible...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


Cool story bro.......ad few dragons and black sword.
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02/14/2013 10:11 AM
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Buy fencing and chickens. Learn to care for and sell chicken eggs. Use the chicken shit for garden fertilizer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16178844


Already done,plus i have a nice little garden set for next months spring weather.

Built small shed off my house with solar on it and have put a nice size freezer in it.

Neighbor gave me 2 goats last week and next month im re-stocking my pond,also did a re-do on my old greenhouse over this winter.

Next month building my bio-sand water filter out by the shed for rain-water catchment.

Waiting on another neighbor ta finish repairing an old VW bug i bought back in january,i plan on running old cooking oil through the bug.

Only thing i really need is a well but cant see myself paying over 5K for that.

God speed everyone....

FYI im over 50 and female,so maybe you not so old folks can do better than i at this.
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02/14/2013 10:25 AM
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I don't think the crash is coming in 5 days, but it IS coming. Get your money out of the markets if you want to salvage anything. It is going to evaporate.
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[link to www.silverdoctors.com]

Very good write-up on this coming failure.

The trade between Japan and Europe and China and Europe will be hit very hard when Europe can’t afford goods from China and Japan. The east will suffer badly as devaluations won’t overcome the recessions and depressions in Europe.

These are real and dangerous tipping points that won’t hold back very long. The people in Italy, Greece and Spain are near the breaking point. I doubt if the Fed will have enough money to bail out Europe when Benny is spending all his political capital in bailing out the US, although I would not be surprised if the Fed doesn’t give it a try, nonetheless.
If we thought 2012 was the year of the epic failure, it may have been just a warmup act to 2013.
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as all the printing presses stand up at once and say....

"Here we are to save the day"

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02/14/2013 10:44 AM
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word has it that feb 19th is the chosen date of collapse by obama.... may want to buy some food...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


why?
 Quoting: Luisport


It has been the plan all along... collapse the dollar, reign in and slaughter the Republicans/Christians in civil war, then full scale communism... get ready its coming...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


I love the smell of alarmism in the morning.

anonstoner
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I don't think the crash is coming in 5 days, but it IS coming. Get your money out of the markets if you want to salvage anything. It is going to evaporate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


How can it crash when they have control of every Bond press, derivative press, currency press, stock press, contracts press, trading terminals and have complete control of every switch and lever; and the curtain ?

How ?

They will slowly bleed everyone out !

Watch !
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I don't think the crash is coming in 5 days, but it IS coming. Get your money out of the markets if you want to salvage anything. It is going to evaporate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


How can it crash when they have control of every Bond press, derivative press, currency press, stock press, contracts press, trading terminals and have complete control of every switch and lever; and the curtain ?

How ?

They will slowly bleed everyone out !

Watch !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33034699


Think of it as a heavy freight train......operator engaged brakes 3 miles ago.......we got about 1 mile to go to come to complete stop.
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02/14/2013 11:22 AM
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I was all into economy and the crash, but I got pretty bored of it the last 3-4 years. Its gonna crash one day. But I stopped caring about it.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


most important thing will be food and food alone.. the bible says things get so bad people start eating people for food...not a joke be as prepared as you can...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


I got tons of rice and other stuff. I will make it a few weeks.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


All that rice is high in arsenic, sorry to report.

[link to www.webmd.com]
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02/14/2013 11:26 AM
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Markets have not seen the end of Buy Long...!

Don't sell short just yet.. when the market goes to 14,800...then sell!

Another uptick is in store ....

China will be issuing new bonds and more money will move in all
directions....

Trimming the fat of a corporation is healthy even for google..

Buy low....stay high!
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Question for you guys in Italy,Spain,Portugal, Germany:

What the hell is going on with your birthrates? They have totally collapsed. Portugal is something ridiculous like 1.4-1.5 when you need 2.1 to maintain population. You're turning into Russia. Germany is 1.5 like Portugal.

Ireland hit 2.1, I think the only Euro country without a negative birth rate. France, Norway and Sweden are 2.0.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4877711


i'm a father for 15 months now... thinking in a second child but no money, no work, no future. just taxes, inflationed prices and no support to grow an healty and instructed person (schools and health care too expensive for the random guy)
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markets are only down 20 points
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Question for you guys in Italy,Spain,Portugal, Germany:

What the hell is going on with your birthrates? They have totally collapsed. Portugal is something ridiculous like 1.4-1.5 when you need 2.1 to maintain population. You're turning into Russia. Germany is 1.5 like Portugal.

Ireland hit 2.1, I think the only Euro country without a negative birth rate. France, Norway and Sweden are 2.0.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4877711


i'm a father for 15 months now... thinking in a second child but no money, no work, no future. just taxes, inflationed prices and no support to grow an healty and instructed person (schools and health care too expensive for the random guy)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34381527


Join in with everyone else and lets just sit around and bitch about it.

wanna tweet ?
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Merkel is trying to rule Europe, but she's failing just like someone else.....

hitler
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Stock up on AA, AAA, C and D batteries it's going to be a bumpy ride.
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Propane, rice and water.
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02/14/2013 01:21 PM
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I was all into economy and the crash, but I got pretty bored of it the last 3-4 years. Its gonna crash one day. But I stopped caring about it.
 Quoting: Face Palmer

most important thing will be food and food alone.. the bible says things get so bad people start eating people for food...not a joke be as prepared as you can...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529

I got tons of rice and other stuff. I will make it a few weeks.
 Quoting: Face Palmer

All that rice is high in arsenic, sorry to report.
[link to www.webmd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869

The body can deal with trace amounts of arsenic, but here in Mexico I purchase rice that was grown in Mexico, and from as far south as possible, so as to avoid cesium and other isotopes from Fuku that is falling out in the US.

Any idea of relying on stored food for when TSHTF, is probably short-sighted and not at all the most important issue.

This future doom we are speaking of will probably be a generational problem and last longer than our life-times.

The more important thing, is to find how to produce your own self sustainable food and needs source NOW, before TSHTF, at which time you will already need to be up and running with your suvivalisim.

Likewise, if you plan on storing up some food, you would better start eating and cycling through that food NOW, otherwise you will be confronted with unexpected problems when these things are needed, plus by not eating it you will allow the stock to age and reduce in value.

Personally, I base most of my diet on fresh foods like eggs and vegies that I produce now. I am on my third year more or less and am still learning, but the first year naturally was well more than half being wasted time and effort due to lack of knowledge.

These practicalities of needing to maintain a up and running self-sufficiency in both good times and bad times, must really suck for businesses like restaurants and food inc., but of course that is not my problem,

But one has to get the monkey off their back of needing a large income, even if it is for property tax. Sometimes only relocation can solve that problem. There are rural places where rent is so cheap that the idea of "owning" land, and all that entails becomes totally unreasonable, like here in Mexico. So much the better.

Chickens are good, especially when they are allowed to forage around the yard for bugs and stuff. Far better to cage the plants and let the chickens roam than the other way around. I also stock up on wheat which I sprout for 3 days for feed and for food, but we do not consume wheat that is not sprouted.

I grow and store some beans too for sprouting, but they are not as useful because chickens can't eat beans, but they eat just about everything else, it makes a lot of sense to share kitchen left-overs with the chickens.
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Not enough consumin' goin' on out der...

Which is no wonder now that the govt is taking an ever larger bite of people's disposable income...

Welcome to the second fall of the greatest depression...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

"We don't rent pigs!"
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Every time the market is about to crash they trot out the old fart warren buffet.This time he is buying a ketchup manufacturer!!!!!As if the news of him buying Heinze is going to save this house of cards......What a fucking joke!
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I was all into economy and the crash, but I got pretty bored of it the last 3-4 years. Its gonna crash one day. But I stopped caring about it.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


most important thing will be food and food alone.. the bible says things get so bad people start eating people for food...not a joke be as prepared as you can...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529


I got tons of rice and other stuff. I will make it a few weeks.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Bury the dead, and turn out the lights when your finished.
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most important thing will be food and food alone.. the bible says things get so bad people start eating people for food...not a joke be as prepared as you can...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34352529

I got tons of rice and other stuff. I will make it a few weeks.
 Quoting: Face Palmer

All that rice is high in arsenic, sorry to report.
[link to www.webmd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869

The body can deal with trace amounts of arsenic, but here in Mexico I purchase rice that was grown in Mexico, and from as far south as possible, so as to avoid cesium and other isotopes from Fuku that is falling out in the US.

Any idea of relying on stored food for when TSHTF, is probably short-sighted and not at all the most important issue.

This future doom we are speaking of will probably be a generational problem and last longer than our life-times.

The more important thing, is to find how to produce your own self sustainable food and needs source NOW, before TSHTF, at which time you will already need to be up and running with your suvivalisim.

Likewise, if you plan on storing up some food, you would better start eating and cycling through that food NOW, otherwise you will be confronted with unexpected problems when these things are needed, plus by not eating it you will allow the stock to age and reduce in value.

Personally, I base most of my diet on fresh foods like eggs and vegies that I produce now. I am on my third year more or less and am still learning, but the first year naturally was well more than half being wasted time and effort due to lack of knowledge.

These practicalities of needing to maintain a up and running self-sufficiency in both good times and bad times, must really suck for businesses like restaurants and food inc., but of course that is not my problem,

But one has to get the monkey off their back of needing a large income, even if it is for property tax. Sometimes only relocation can solve that problem. There are rural places where rent is so cheap that the idea of "owning" land, and all that entails becomes totally unreasonable, like here in Mexico. So much the better.

Chickens are good, especially when they are allowed to forage around the yard for bugs and stuff. Far better to cage the plants and let the chickens roam than the other way around. I also stock up on wheat which I sprout for 3 days for feed and for food, but we do not consume wheat that is not sprouted.

I grow and store some beans too for sprouting, but they are not as useful because chickens can't eat beans, but they eat just about everything else, it makes a lot of sense to share kitchen left-overs with the chickens.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I hear you. Rent is cheap.

Gardens are nice but indigenous farmers do all the hard work of producing fresh food. I find it very productive to trade with them.
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AC 322432?? ..... Doing all that and over 50 ..... Built my shelter in my fifties; took FIVE years, WITH a John Deere tractor to dig. Hardest part was getting the hundred of stones from different places, some weighing up to two hundred pounds, especially when they were on top of partially quarries places, about 25 yards from my old station wagon.

Some were only sticking up from the ground. My son who came out to help me unload some big ones by getting in the back and pushing them out AFTER DARK (when I got home) said to me " HIOw did you EVER get this on in the station wagon ?"

I just said asked for "HELP, and He gave it to me."

But that was when I was a 'young man' and played 14 complete sets of tennis in ONE DAY.

Eagle
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If it's really this bad I don't want to become a survivalist. A long walk in the snow with a bottle of vodka is how my Russian ancestors dealt with it.
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bump
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It is now being reported that the CEO of Heinz will get a 100 MILLION DOLLAR BONUS for helping with the merger......
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If it's really this bad I don't want to become a survivalist. A long walk in the snow with a bottle of vodka is how my Russian ancestors dealt with it.
 Quoting: ruser


Yep.
This is going to truly be EPIC, in the actual true sense of the word.
This will be globally ties to any economy connected to the Western banking system.

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Not enough consumin' goin' on out der...

Which is no wonder now that the govt is taking an ever larger bite of people's disposable income...

Welcome to the second fall of the greatest depression...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Well, I just did my part .... $70 for a tank of gas.
Who is John Galt?





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