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SUPPOSE THAT CHRISTAINITY IS ALL A SCAM? THEN WHAT?

 
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Besides, you atheists can't shut up about that ONE God. Why is that? Youserve the elites purpose, which is to bring the demise of true (not modern) Christianity.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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You suggested Christianity is a hoax . I don't know about the Muslim god . I only know that I personally dabbled in many walks . In the end it was only Jesus Christ who touched me as I sought Him and he has changed my life.
I probably would not even be alive.
Scoff all you want. There was a time that I did as well.
RELIGION has done a terrible injustice to the truth.
 Quoting: gatherhope 28472873


it's the same god.
 Quoting: Oyster


Mohammed could have touched you just as well.
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But he was a crossdressing mass murdering pedo prophet. No thanks, I'll pass on that religion.
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Church is a scam.
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You suggested Christianity is a hoax . I don't know about the Muslim god . I only know that I personally dabbled in many walks . In the end it was only Jesus Christ who touched me as I sought Him and he has changed my life.
I probably would not even be alive.
Scoff all you want. There was a time that I did as well.
RELIGION has done a terrible injustice to the truth.
 Quoting: gatherhope 28472873


it's the same god.
 Quoting: Oyster


cruise Riiight.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
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Church is a scam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454829


Most yes, but we were foretold of this. Atheists don't see (mostly on purpose)/ how the word of God already exposes everything atheists think they have on believers and Christians. Such as, pagan holidays, tithing, the true Sabbath, etc.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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You suggested Christianity is a hoax . I don't know about the Muslim god . I only know that I personally dabbled in many walks . In the end it was only Jesus Christ who touched me as I sought Him and he has changed my life.
I probably would not even be alive.
Scoff all you want. There was a time that I did as well.
RELIGION has done a terrible injustice to the truth.
 Quoting: gatherhope 28472873


it's the same god.
 Quoting: Oyster


cruise Riiight.
 Quoting: cmoG530


you have to know that....come on bro.

judaism, christianity and islam all believe in the same god, they just have a very different take on things.

this is common knowledge.
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Or how about atheists who don't actually debunk anything they are told? Yeah, that one.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Church is a scam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454829


Most yes, but we were foretold of this. Atheists don't see (mostly on purpose)/ how the word of God already exposes everything atheists think they have on believers and Christians. Such as, pagan holidays, tithing, the true Sabbath, etc.
 Quoting: cmoG530


by all means.....explain.
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You suggested Christianity is a hoax . I don't know about the Muslim god . I only know that I personally dabbled in many walks . In the end it was only Jesus Christ who touched me as I sought Him and he has changed my life.
I probably would not even be alive.
Scoff all you want. There was a time that I did as well.
RELIGION has done a terrible injustice to the truth.
 Quoting: gatherhope 28472873


it's the same god.
 Quoting: Oyster


cruise Riiight.
 Quoting: cmoG530


you have to know that....come on bro.

judaism, christianity and islam all believe in the same god, they just have a very different take on things.

this is common knowledge.
 Quoting: Oyster


Says you right? And NO, even atheists know that allah and the Christian God aren't the same. Seriously, I've seen many that admit it.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Church is a scam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454829


Most yes, but we were foretold of this. Atheists don't see (mostly on purpose)/ how the word of God already exposes everything atheists think they have on believers and Christians. Such as, pagan holidays, tithing, the true Sabbath, etc.
 Quoting: cmoG530


by all means.....explain.
 Quoting: Oyster


Lord willing, look at my threads.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Or how about atheists who don't actually debunk anything they are told? Yeah, that one.
 Quoting: cmoG530


Debunk unicorns for me. I'll wait.
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Or how about atheists who don't actually debunk anything they are told? Yeah, that one.
 Quoting: cmoG530


Debunk unicorns for me. I'll wait.
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You look at my threads as well.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Only ONE loved us all enough to die on a cross and be raised from the dead.
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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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it is a scam...
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Examined your own beliefs lately?
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it's the same god.
 Quoting: Oyster


cruise Riiight.
 Quoting: cmoG530


you have to know that....come on bro.

judaism, christianity and islam all believe in the same god, they just have a very different take on things.

this is common knowledge.
 Quoting: Oyster


Says you right? And NO, even atheists know that allah and the Christian God aren't the same. Seriously, I've seen many that admit it.
 Quoting: cmoG530


yeah man, just me.....

"The Qur’an identifies Allah as none other than the God to whom Abraham offered “submission” (‘islam) in the episode Jews and Christians know so well from Genesis 22, the story of the binding of Isaac."
[link to www.beliefnet.com]
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Christianity IS a religion. You people really sound ridiculous when you say that it isn't. You call it a "relationship." Oh, please! You don't have a relationship with a man who supposedly (although there is absolutely no proof) lived 2000 years ago, a man you have never seen or heard. You only have a relationship with a BOOK. Jesus isn't even a large part of that book. The only thing attributed to him is some New Testament writings that would be the size of a small pamphlet.

Someone, of course, TOLD you that Christianity is not a religion. You didn't make this up on your own. You people will fall for anything. They TOLD you that you had to have a relationship with a mythical man, so, viola, you DO! Grow up. Try to think for yourself. You don't have an invisible best buddy who lives inside you and talks to you. Just the thought of that should make you realize that you are statistically insane.
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In your defense, you are obviously immature and have not put much thought into anything.

You were made to worship, so you will worship something. If not Jesus, then your government, your heros, your idols of money, power, etc., You will try to justify yourself this way or that, feeling pious all the while.

It's just stupid and empty. I will gladly take your salvation off you hands if you don't want it.
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Immaturity is shown in a person who can't imagine that there is not some "god" up there in the sky, invisibly watching everything he does, and that somehow this same god can see everyone at the same time and hear the prayers of everyone, no matter where they are. And this same god only loves Christians who have accepted the fact that he had to kill his son so that he could forgive them. Jesus is a new concept and before that time god could just accept burnt offerings of perfect lambs and oxen, and he loved the smell of fat. If this story sounds logical to you, you need to grow up.

An immature person believes that it would be possible for a big star up in the sky to lead men to a stable. A gullible person would believe that a man could be born of a virgin or raise up from the dead. The natural laws out there that govern our world do not accept this type of story but little children (who believe in Santa Claus) like to believe in magical things. Children and YOU are immature.

I do not idolize anything. You are the one who probably idolizes money. I am poor and don't have any money to idolize. How about you? Did you sell everything that you own and give it all to the poor? IF you didn't, Jesus thinks you're a shit and you won't go to heaven. I certainly don't idolize the government. I don't even vote. And do love my family and friends. If you want to call that idolizing something, so be it, but it sounds like you are grasping for straws. You just need to grow up. The Bible is a book to control gullible and foolish people like you, people who cannot accept their own mortality. You will die and be dust. Get over yourself. You're just not that important.
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it could very well be you know?
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So does that mean you should do what this verse says or do the opposite?

1Co:15:32:
If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,
what advantageth it me,
if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die.
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cruise Riiight.
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you have to know that....come on bro.

judaism, christianity and islam all believe in the same god, they just have a very different take on things.

this is common knowledge.
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Says you right? And NO, even atheists know that allah and the Christian God aren't the same. Seriously, I've seen many that admit it.
 Quoting: cmoG530


yeah man, just me.....

"The Qur’an identifies Allah as none other than the God to whom Abraham offered “submission” (‘islam) in the episode Jews and Christians know so well from Genesis 22, the story of the binding of Isaac."
[link to www.beliefnet.com]
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You have some reading to do. I'd suggest that you do it before continuing any further. Read and if you can, debunk the threads.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Church is a scam.
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Most yes, but we were foretold of this. Atheists don't see (mostly on purpose)/ how the word of God already exposes everything atheists think they have on believers and Christians. Such as, pagan holidays, tithing, the true Sabbath, etc.
 Quoting: cmoG530


by all means.....explain.
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Lord willing, look at my threads.
 Quoting: cmoG530


thats ok, we are already having the dicussion here. i am not about to go read all of your threads.
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
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Or how about atheists who don't actually debunk anything they are told? Yeah, that one.
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but its not necessary to debunk everthing.

if you live by the 10 commandments, i dont care what you actually believe.

i know one thing, id rather be locked up with 100 buddihsts than 100 christains. the buddhihsts would not 'bother' me nor try to convert/convince me and would not even speak to me unless i spoke to them first. just the way i like it, peace and quite.

and even the few who try to convert/convince me would sortly be arguing amongst themselves who was more accurate on what they teach/preach

only one god and over 500 christain denomiations.

500 different 'truths' of jc???
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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.

Then what? What if you don't believe and its all real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven then not to believe and go to hell. If its not real nothing lost, but if it is you and many other's are screwed.
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Suppose that Islam is not a scam and Allah is real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven than not to believe and go to hell? If it is not real, nothing lost, but if it IS, you and many other's are screwed.

Do you like the sound of that? IF not, just substitute, Jehovah's Witnesees or Mormon or Hindu or Buddhism in that blank space where Islam or Christianity are in your silly statement. Just because YOU were born in a Christian nation and had Christianity force fed down your throat since infancy, does not mean that other people have. So take some of your own medicine and try not to choke on it.
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I am not telling you to believe. So you just wait and see.

And Christianity is in every Country. Just in this Country we are not killed as in most.
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Most yes, but we were foretold of this. Atheists don't see (mostly on purpose)/ how the word of God already exposes everything atheists think they have on believers and Christians. Such as, pagan holidays, tithing, the true Sabbath, etc.
 Quoting: cmoG530


by all means.....explain.
 Quoting: Oyster


Lord willing, look at my threads.
 Quoting: cmoG530


thats ok, we are already having the dicussion here. i am not about to go read all of your threads.
 Quoting: Oyster


Then shut up.tounge and don't dare ask for proof. Typical. cruisecruisecruise
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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OP, you raise a good question but the Christians here are incapable of entertaining hypotheticals. Prepare for wall after wall of scriptural quotes and circular arguments.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Or how about atheists who don't actually debunk anything they are told? Yeah, that one.
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but its not necessary to debunk everthing.

if you live by the 10 commandments, i dont care what you actually believe.

i know one thing, id rather be locked up with 100 buddihsts than 100 christains. the buddhihsts would not 'bother' me nor try to convert/convince me and would not even speak to me unless i spoke to them first. just the way i like it, peace and quite.

and even the few who try to convert/convince me would sortly be arguing amongst themselves who was more accurate on what they teach/preach

only one god and over 500 christain denomiations.

500 different 'truths' of jc???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2509491


*yawn* How's about you read my threads and come back here and say the same thing. I dare you.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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by all means.....explain.
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Lord willing, look at my threads.
 Quoting: cmoG530


thats ok, we are already having the dicussion here. i am not about to go read all of your threads.
 Quoting: Oyster


Then shut up.tounge and don't dare ask for proof. Typical.
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typical because i am not interested in your self-promotion? (not very christian of you)
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and how about the 'simple' 4 noble buddhist truths:


1) THERE IS TRUTH IN SUFFERING

2) THERE IS TRUTH IN THE ORGINS OF SUFFERING (you know, when eve bit the di...er apple from stan, instead of her husbans apple, it all started there)

3) THERE IS TRUTH IN THE CESSATION OF SUFFERING

4) THERE IS TRUTH IN THE PATH THAT LEADS TO THE CESSATION OF SUFFERING


when you finally learn what causes you to suffer, you have learned truth, or attachment (to anything) is the cause of all suffeing. so GIVE IT UP!! LOL!
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Sonic the Hedgehog is merely trying to steer everyone to his threads.
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You would never say that if you knew the love of Jesus Christ. Its not about a religion.
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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:
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You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.

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