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SUPPOSE THAT CHRISTAINITY IS ALL A SCAM? THEN WHAT?

 
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You would never say that if you knew the love of Jesus Christ. Its not about a religion.
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Yep! afro It is a personal relationship they they never had or desired with God that causes folks to say those types of things. It is a gift of God's grace to commune with God.
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You don't have to eat the flesh of a hebrew zombie to have a relationship with God.
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I have never seen so many examples of circular logic.

The truth:

No one knows for certain how everything came to be, anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.
As far as anyone can prove all of the so called religious books were created by human beings.

Did you know that there is a certain form of epilepsy that causes it sufferers to experience religious ecstasy?
Perhaps this is the basis for all reveal religions,
perhaps this is why so many ancient cultures revered these individuals.

Do they perceive the truth? Who knows for certain?
Most of them explain their vision as showing them how everything is connected in a web of awareness.
Perhaps the ancients lacked the vocabulary to fully explain their visions and interpreted it is a voice outside themselves.

Live your life, do no harm to others, seems to me a good policy and requires no subservience to some supernatural being that, based on evidence, does not exist.
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Wrong. Jesus said, "the Kingdom of God is within you."

God is Spirit and God can only be known in Spirit and Truth.
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it could very well be you know?
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Even if it was all a scam and I am living as Jesus would want me to live with all my love in my heart, my mind, my soul and my strength for God and to love my neighbor as I do myself, I am still living a wonderful love filled life that is full of daily joy.

What is your alternative?
 Quoting: A Friend

There doesn't have to be an alternative. This is how EVERY person should live. We all know Christians who cheat on their wives, cheat on their taxes, covet your new car, are greedy, etc. So living for Jesus, as you say, does not make you perfect. America is a Christian nation, and look around you. IF Jesus was REALLY living in the hearts of most people, would we see the crime and poverty that we do?

Maybe you do love your neighbor as yourself, but so do I. I am an atheist and loving your neighbor is just common sense. I don't need some book to teach me morals. I am not an atheist so I can sin. That is just stupid. I am an atheist because all my questions were answered by being one. You could look at a country like Denmark where the people are largely atheist, and they have a much lower crime rate than in America. If you have a wonderful love filled life, that is fine. So do I. But I don't need to believe in a fantasy to have that. I can appreciate this life I have and be a good person and I don't need to depend on a crutch.

I am brave to admit to myself that I won't live after death so I do enjoy this life I have and appreciate it. Do you understand?
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I do understand but what if Jesus is real and when you die you don't enter oblivion and there is a day in which you stand before God. Either way I am alright. That's what I meant.

You are living a good and honorable life too. Not because you have but because you want to. That is the very same reason I do. The reason you don't see all Christians live as Jesus taught is that they might not be living with Jesus yet. I don't know anyone else's story but my own.
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it could very well be you know?
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Suppose?

Suppose?

No supposition about it.

Christians are followers of Paul rather than Jesus.

100% of them.

No exception.

If they believe that the Teaching of Jesus includes the understanding that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', they cannot be Christians.

They are, instead, followers of Jesus.

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christians have been persecuted since they began. quit fear mongering.
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Think you got your definitions mixed up.

Followers of Jesus have been persecuted since the crucifixion.

Whatever happened to the Gnostics?

Eliminated from the pages of history, many of their writings destroyed as both heretical and treasonous when Christianity became the state religion.

Whatever happened to the Albigensians and the Bogomiles?

Exterminated by the tens of thousands by agents of the Roman church because, like Jesus, they taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Whatever happened to the indigenous populations of the Americas and the Pacific islands and Australia, and the black peoples of Africa?

Christians have been the persecutors rather than the persecuted.

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You would never say that if you knew the love of Jesus Christ. Its not about a religion.
 Quoting: gatherhope 28472873


Yep! afro It is a personal relationship they they never had or desired with God that causes folks to say those types of things. It is a gift of God's grace to commune with God.
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You don't have to eat the flesh of a hebrew zombie to have a relationship with God.
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You must eat his body and drink his blood! You do not have a clue what the body is here? You do not have a clue what the blood is here?

Eating the body of Christ is living his philosophy.

Drinking the blood of Jesus Christ is tolerating and expecting those such as you that say such things as you do about us that live by (as best we personally can) “The Philosophy of Jesus Christ” handed to him from God.

The Philosophy of Jesus Christ is the owners manual to life here and then preparation for life there after here.

Out of the Christian Bible is a book called the New Testament, in that book are 4 short books about 120 pages total. Those 4 Books or Gospels meaning “Good News” are titled, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The books contain Christ's instructions for life and also he talks about his “Life After Death Insurance Policy”.... Totally FREE. Become FREE for FREE.

[link to www.e-sword.net] goodnews


If you are new to the Bible...the GNB or Good News Bible is an easy everyday English read. Use the FREE included commentaries for clarification of a verse if you get stuck. You can tackle “Old English” Bibles latter if you are inspired.

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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:
 Quoting: cmoG530

You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Genius...you just told all those here the nature of the problem.

Those others are not targets for "Spiritual Warfare", why? They have no "Spiritual Value" to the enemy. You are really brilliant and probably don't realize it.

You did forget to mention Christ is the only threat to the "Enemy". Thus the attacks. The attacks are from within and from without. Both in men and organized powerful religions. Christ's Light over exposes evil....thus the hate for God and Christ, it is built into us...it is called enmity.

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I have never seen so many examples of circular logic.

The truth:

No one knows for certain how everything came to be, anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.
As far as anyone can prove all of the so called religious books were created by human beings.

Did you know that there is a certain form of epilepsy that causes it sufferers to experience religious ecstasy?
Perhaps this is the basis for all reveal religions,
perhaps this is why so many ancient cultures revered these individuals.

Do they perceive the truth? Who knows for certain?
Most of them explain their vision as showing them how everything is connected in a web of awareness.
Perhaps the ancients lacked the vocabulary to fully explain their visions and interpreted it is a voice outside themselves.

Live your life, do no harm to others, seems to me a good policy and requires no subservience to some supernatural being that, based on evidence, does not exist.
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poster above,

i understand your point of view, but if in the year 1650ad a being from another dimension had taken me into the future and shown me that people would fly thru the air in metal ships and I then i came back and told people...some would laugh , nearly all would not believe,

and a few intellectuals such as your self would say calmly:

"No one knows for certain how everything came to be, anyone who claims otherwise is a liar."

"Did you know that there is a certain form of epilepsy that causes it sufferers to experience religious ecstasy?"

now i will translate your seemingly logical words to what is REAL:

You and all intellectual agnostics and/or atheists are really saying 'IF I DON'T KNOW IT, NO ONE CAN KNOW IT'.

that's it . that's all.

YOU ARE SPEAKING FROM A PERSONAL, AND VERY LIMITED PERSPECTIVE.
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You too "ARE SPEAKING FROM A PERSONAL, AND VERY LIMITED PERSPECTIVE."

I never said anywhere: 'if I don't know no one can', those are your words not mine.

I do believe the truth needs to be proved, there are far, far, too many so called truths that turned out not to be.

Saying something is true does not make it so no matter how much you believe it to be.
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it could very well be you know?
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Even if it was all a scam and I am living as Jesus would want me to live with all my love in my heart, my mind, my soul and my strength for God and to love my neighbor as I do myself, I am still living a wonderful love filled life that is full of daily joy.

What is your alternative?
 Quoting: A Friend

There doesn't have to be an alternative. This is how EVERY person should live. We all know Christians who cheat on their wives, cheat on their taxes, covet your new car, are greedy, etc. So living for Jesus, as you say, does not make you perfect. America is a Christian nation, and look around you. IF Jesus was REALLY living in the hearts of most people, would we see the crime and poverty that we do?

Maybe you do love your neighbor as yourself, but so do I. I am an atheist and loving your neighbor is just common sense. I don't need some book to teach me morals. I am not an atheist so I can sin. That is just stupid. I am an atheist because all my questions were answered by being one. You could look at a country like Denmark where the people are largely atheist, and they have a much lower crime rate than in America. If you have a wonderful love filled life, that is fine. So do I. But I don't need to believe in a fantasy to have that. I can appreciate this life I have and be a good person and I don't need to depend on a crutch.

I am brave to admit to myself that I won't live after death so I do enjoy this life I have and appreciate it. Do you understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


I do understand but what if Jesus is real and when you die you don't enter oblivion and there is a day in which you stand before God. Either way I am alright. That's what I meant.

You are living a good and honorable life too. Not because you have but because you want to. That is the very same reason I do. The reason you don't see all Christians live as Jesus taught is that they might not be living with Jesus yet. I don't know anyone else's story but my own.
 Quoting: A Friend

Well, if you were living in India, you would be a Hindu today. So what if they are correct about their many gods and Jesus was just a myth. Or what if Allah is the correct God and you burn in hell because you were born in the wrong country. There are tons of different gods, even tons of denominations of Christians. For instance, all Mormons think they are practicing the one true religion. Do you honestly sit around and worry about the fact that you may go to hell because you never worshiped in the Mormon church?

I don't worry about such things as dying and going to hell. I know one thing though, ANY god who creates a place of permanent torture for his "beloved" children is NOT a good God. That God would be a demon and there would be no way to trust such a deity. So maybe you should worry about that? Do you only worship your god out of extreme fear? That is not love, by the way. Could you torment your beloved son or daughter for a day? I'll bet you couldn't, and yet this God that you worship does this to people forever??? How can you reconcile your belief in God with that? How do you do that?
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I have never seen so many examples of circular logic.

The truth:

No one knows for certain how everything came to be, anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.
As far as anyone can prove all of the so called religious books were created by human beings.

Did you know that there is a certain form of epilepsy that causes it sufferers to experience religious ecstasy?
Perhaps this is the basis for all reveal religions,
perhaps this is why so many ancient cultures revered these individuals.

Do they perceive the truth? Who knows for certain?
Most of them explain their vision as showing them how everything is connected in a web of awareness.
Perhaps the ancients lacked the vocabulary to fully explain their visions and interpreted it is a voice outside themselves.

Live your life, do no harm to others, seems to me a good policy and requires no subservience to some supernatural being that, based on evidence, does not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


Wrong. Jesus said, "the Kingdom of God is within you."

God is Spirit and God can only be known in Spirit and Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2543962


More circular reasoning
Jesus did not write one single word that we know of.
If he existed he was more than likely smart enough to know that writing things down leads to others interpreting your words without the benefit of the originator correcting that interpretation.
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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:
 Quoting: cmoG530

You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.
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Genius...you just told all those here the nature of the problem.

Those others are not targets for "Spiritual Warfare", why? They have no "Spiritual Value" to the enemy. You are really brilliant and probably don't realize it.

You did forget to mention Christ is the only threat to the "Enemy". Thus the attacks. The attacks are from within and from without. Both in men and organized powerful religions. Christ's Light over exposes evil....thus the hate for God and Christ, it is built into us...it is called enmity.

hf
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What enemy are you talking about, idiot? I hope it isn't Satan. Go read your Bible because it is obvious you haven't done that yet. Count how many people GOD killed in the Bible. If you count the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah and all the men, women, children, infants, etc., you would come up with a very high number....about 2 million as an estimate. So how many people did Satan kill? Well, that would be easy...10 people, Job's family. But first he had to get permission from God to kill them and, of course, God said yes.

You are worshiping a creature that killed all the first born CHILDREN of Egypt. He didn't have to but he wanted to. He blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. God killed 70,000 people because David did a census. He killed David's baby because of David and Bathsheba's sin? There is a verse in Psalms: "Happy is he who takes your child and bashes his head against the rocks." So, apparently, God loves to kill innocent children and babies to punish the guilty. Is this REALLY the God you worship? Who is the real enemy?

God permits slavery. He told Moses to kill a man who simply picked up some sticks on Sunday/Saturday, depending on the branch of cult you belong to. He tells YOU to kill all unbelievers and all children who are disobedient and everyone who works on the Sabbath. But you don't listen to those old rules, do you? So before you come on here and act like an idiot, remember that those who believe absurdities are looked at as idiots by most normal people.
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You would never say that if you knew the love of Jesus Christ. Its not about a religion.
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But do you ever truly know?

So many issues with the entire thing such as;

He repeatedly stated he was the "son of man", you may have a edited version.

He constantly said "man is sin", which does not go with statement above well, I am man, am sin....


He also made statements like "I will say I knew you not".

Not very promising for one that might devote their lives to such a cause. Then the "I brought a sword" etc, etc, many statements which sound good on the surface yet with a bit of critical thinking it looks a bit different.


Believe what you want. I believe the story, I believe the statements, however I don't pick and choose which ones, its all or nothing and when its all on the table it paints a different picture, than you hear in church.


Then what of leaders such as luther who claimed the pope to be antichrist and of satan? He was closer to the facts than any of us, and they are all children of the catholic church arent they?
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You didn't even read it. Buzz off, until then.
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I read part of it and I know what you are trying to "prove." Why would the Illuminati seem to hate Christianity if they created it? That is what the gist of the whole thing is. RIGHT? I think I got you pegged. And I just explained why but you didn't want to hear because you want to think that God came down from the sky and dictated that book to a bunch of stone age barabarians that lived in tents. Grow up.
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Key words "part of it". Goodbye. I'll wait for a true atheist. Let's hope Mr. Darth Vader can finally own up.
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I don't have time to read your silly thread. I am not a Christian. I used to be until I researched things on my own. I am a true atheist. I don't believe in any gods. I don't think I live after death. What constitutes a TRUE atheist? I guess you know that, too, because you are God and all. Grow up. You have been conned.
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Look in a mirror for the con job.
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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:
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You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.
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Genius...you just told all those here the nature of the problem.

Those others are not targets for "Spiritual Warfare", why? They have no "Spiritual Value" to the enemy. You are really brilliant and probably don't realize it.

You did forget to mention Christ is the only threat to the "Enemy". Thus the attacks. The attacks are from within and from without. Both in men and organized powerful religions. Christ's Light over exposes evil....thus the hate for God and Christ, it is built into us...it is called enmity.

hf
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What enemy are you talking about, idiot? I hope it isn't Satan. Go read your Bible because it is obvious you haven't done that yet. Count how many people GOD killed in the Bible. If you count the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah and all the men, women, children, infants, etc., you would come up with a very high number....about 2 million as an estimate. So how many people did Satan kill? Well, that would be easy...10 people, Job's family. But first he had to get permission from God to kill them and, of course, God said yes.

You are worshiping a creature that killed all the first born CHILDREN of Egypt. He didn't have to but he wanted to. He blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. God killed 70,000 people because David did a census. He killed David's baby because of David and Bathsheba's sin? There is a verse in Psalms: "Happy is he who takes your child and bashes his head against the rocks." So, apparently, God loves to kill innocent children and babies to punish the guilty. Is this REALLY the God you worship? Who is the real enemy?

God permits slavery. He told Moses to kill a man who simply picked up some sticks on Sunday/Saturday, depending on the branch of cult you belong to. He tells YOU to kill all unbelievers and all children who are disobedient and everyone who works on the Sabbath. But you don't listen to those old rules, do you? So before you come on here and act like an idiot, remember that those who believe absurdities are looked at as idiots by most normal people.
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You say; "What enemy are you talking about, idiot? I hope it isn't Satan." Do really think all the vitriol here is from Satan?

You are going a long a dangerous path my friend in creation. You are sympathizing with that that killed you and convinced you he didn't.

Bamboozled, you, hook, line and sinker. Do you know how deep that fishing hole is?

afro


The problem was and is idols,everywhere. As was and is pedophilia, they hide that now as much as posible. God will reveal all in due time, notice all the child abuse cases and stories proliferating. After thousands of yrears. The Gig is up!




We will leave a light on for ya! afro You will change your tune..in time.
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Atheist: Prove to me that God exists.

Christian: Who brought you up?

Atheist: Lol! My parents idiot, why?

Christian: Could you have survived without them?

Atheist: *squints eyes* No.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because I didn't know how to take care of myself obviously.

Christian: So, it took a being of higher knowledge, in order for you to not only live, but give you knowledge?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, do monkeys and newborn babies, just up and live on their own? Why cannot science replicate such a primal factor, in the theory of evolution?

Atheist:....

Christian: So, how are WE to believe, that somehow, someway, a monkey figured out that it needed water and food before it died? Do you know the CHANCES of that happening in such a short period of time? What if, our monkey ancestors, were *poofed* into the deserts or Arctic? The chances shrink even more exponentially.

Christian: I have a challenge for you.

Atheist: Okay, shoot.

Christian: Since man has all of the answers, live the rest of your life without making a mistake.

Atheist: LOL! What kind of challenge is that?!

Christian: So, you cannot do it?

Atheist: Of course not.

Christian: Why?

Atheist: Because humans AREN'T perfect.

Christian: So, you agree that humans are flawed?

Atheist:.... Yes...

Christian: So, if humans are flawed, then atheists are just as guilty as believers, for putting their faith in man made creation and or beliefs. I ask you, do you know who started the still theory of evolution?

Atheist: Why does that matter?

Christian: How do we know that this man was credible? How do we know that he was mentality stable or if he was in fact a Freemason? You atheists claim that us believers have not seen the beginning, but yet fail to apply the exact same fact to yourselves.

Atheist:....

Christian: Why the sudden hush? You claim that evolution explains everything, but yet that belief was started by just one man. Lets say that I was rich. I could start my own belief system and gather "proof" as to why it's the only valid belief, but does it make me correct? I can assure you, that I'd have many followers regardless.

Atheists suffer from pride. They feel the need to be right or assertive in what they choose to believe, but at the end of the day, they are no different than the ones that they mock.

Furthermore, upon asking for proof, atheists then cower away with insults as to why the believer is deluded.

Atheist: Okay, where's my proof?

Christian: Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Do that and Lord willing, come back and tell me that God does not exist. If not, then you are no longer a credible source for your belief.

To add one more thing, ponder on this. Atheists claim to abhor all religion, but they all have an uncanny knack for only disrespecting the Christian God. They completely ignore the Greek gods, Hindu gods, wiccan gods, Egyptian gods, etc. Why is that??? I'll tell you why:


Albert Pike on World War 3

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike (33'rd Degree Freemason)


Jude 1:17-19 KJV
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

[18] How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

[19] These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


That's right, atheism and Islam were created for one purpose. To destroy the only TRUE religion, TRUE (not modern) Christianity. Believe me, we can see the evil that lurks within you atheists. As soon as the spiritual switch is flipped, you all will fulfill your purpose.

But, hey, what if I'm wrong? I suppose when the NWO comes to kill you and your family, you will allow them to die, because you are oh SO certain that there is no afterlife right??? *grins*

Atheist:.....:
 Quoting: cmoG530

You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.
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Genius...you just told all those here the nature of the problem.

Those others are not targets for "Spiritual Warfare", why? They have no "Spiritual Value" to the enemy. You are really brilliant and probably don't realize it.

You did forget to mention Christ is the only threat to the "Enemy". Thus the attacks. The attacks are from within and from without. Both in men and organized powerful religions. Christ's Light over exposes evil....thus the hate for God and Christ, it is built into us...it is called enmity.

hf
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What enemy are you talking about, idiot? I hope it isn't Satan. Go read your Bible because it is obvious you haven't done that yet. Count how many people GOD killed in the Bible. If you count the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah and all the men, women, children, infants, etc., you would come up with a very high number....about 2 million as an estimate. So how many people did Satan kill? Well, that would be easy...10 people, Job's family. But first he had to get permission from God to kill them and, of course, God said yes.

You are worshiping a creature that killed all the first born CHILDREN of Egypt. He didn't have to but he wanted to. He blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. God killed 70,000 people because David did a census. He killed David's baby because of David and Bathsheba's sin? There is a verse in Psalms: "Happy is he who takes your child and bashes his head against the rocks." So, apparently, God loves to kill innocent children and babies to punish the guilty. Is this REALLY the God you worship? Who is the real enemy?

God permits slavery. He told Moses to kill a man who simply picked up some sticks on Sunday/Saturday, depending on the branch of cult you belong to. He tells YOU to kill all unbelievers and all children who are disobedient and everyone who works on the Sabbath. But you don't listen to those old rules, do you? So before you come on here and act like an idiot, remember that those who believe absurdities are looked at as idiots by most normal people.
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Look I said you are a genius but I was mistaken. You are stuck in the Jewish OLD TESTAMENT...you mention nothing of the NEW DEAL and the NEW TESTAMENT. Tell us all why? Capiche?

My spell checker refuses to work today...sorry for any typos. afro
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You'll have to meet Bill and shake his hand! Cold and Clamy.....you think we are from galaxy 4555? Really?

Nice guy but he is an X-minister like an X-smoker he hates smokers.
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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.

Then what? What if you don't believe and its all real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven then not to believe and go to hell. If its not real nothing lost, but if it is you and many other's are screwed.
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Christians use this reasoning all of the time.
Believing something "just in case" isn't going to save you if Christianity is real.
Are you really using this as a form of "witnessing" to the so called "sinners" of the world?
In revelation it says that it is better to be either hot or cold, lukewarm gets you vomited out of Jesus mouth. How do you know your way of thinking doesn't make you lukewarm?
That would put you in the hot seat.
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Jesus did not write one single word that we know of.
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Which, of course, is what the Christian religious 'authorities' want you to believe.

But, in fact, Jesus wrote the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls; a fact which, however, the media will never publicize because it would threaten the multi-billion dollar interests of Christianity, Inc.

People could then go to read the Thanksgiving Hymns instead of getting Pd.D. in Christian theology, and buying worthless books about Christianity's speculations about the Teaching of Jesus.

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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.
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You don't understand.

Christianity is a scam because God is real.

Jesus never taught a Doctrine even remotely similar to Christian theology, which was a creation of Paul.

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Even if it was all a scam and I am living as Jesus would want me to live with all my love in my heart, my mind, my soul and my strength for God and to love my neighbor as I do myself, I am still living a wonderful love filled life that is full of daily joy.

What is your alternative?
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There doesn't have to be an alternative. This is how EVERY person should live. We all know Christians who cheat on their wives, cheat on their taxes, covet your new car, are greedy, etc. So living for Jesus, as you say, does not make you perfect. America is a Christian nation, and look around you. IF Jesus was REALLY living in the hearts of most people, would we see the crime and poverty that we do?

Maybe you do love your neighbor as yourself, but so do I. I am an atheist and loving your neighbor is just common sense. I don't need some book to teach me morals. I am not an atheist so I can sin. That is just stupid. I am an atheist because all my questions were answered by being one. You could look at a country like Denmark where the people are largely atheist, and they have a much lower crime rate than in America. If you have a wonderful love filled life, that is fine. So do I. But I don't need to believe in a fantasy to have that. I can appreciate this life I have and be a good person and I don't need to depend on a crutch.

I am brave to admit to myself that I won't live after death so I do enjoy this life I have and appreciate it. Do you understand?
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I do understand but what if Jesus is real and when you die you don't enter oblivion and there is a day in which you stand before God. Either way I am alright. That's what I meant.

You are living a good and honorable life too. Not because you have but because you want to. That is the very same reason I do. The reason you don't see all Christians live as Jesus taught is that they might not be living with Jesus yet. I don't know anyone else's story but my own.
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Well, if you were living in India, you would be a Hindu today. So what if they are correct about their many gods and Jesus was just a myth. Or what if Allah is the correct God and you burn in hell because you were born in the wrong country. There are tons of different gods, even tons of denominations of Christians. For instance, all Mormons think they are practicing the one true religion. Do you honestly sit around and worry about the fact that you may go to hell because you never worshiped in the Mormon church?

I don't worry about such things as dying and going to hell. I know one thing though, ANY god who creates a place of permanent torture for his "beloved" children is NOT a good God. That God would be a demon and there would be no way to trust such a deity. So maybe you should worry about that? Do you only worship your god out of extreme fear? That is not love, by the way. Could you torment your beloved son or daughter for a day? I'll bet you couldn't, and yet this God that you worship does this to people forever??? How can you reconcile your belief in God with that? How do you do that?
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You bring up many good questions that I don't have the answer for. I do know when I get I chance I will ask some of them and more. One thing I do know is that Jesus said that I am the "only" way. None of the other belief systems claim that at least that I know of.

Also, I don't belong to a denomination of a religion. I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.

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I have a personal relationship with a living person.
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Tell me one thing about this person who you 'personally' know that is not known by someone else.

Does he like broccoli?

Does he have a favorite song, favorite movie, favorite dance?

What does he 'think' about Nietzsche, Buddha and J. Krishnamurti?

Would he have voted for Ron Paul?

Things like that.

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I have a personal relationship with a living person.
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Tell me one thing about this person who you 'personally' know that is not known by someone else.

Does he like broccoli?

Does he have a favorite song, favorite movie, favorite dance?

What does he 'think' about Nietzsche, Buddha and J. Krishnamurti?

Would he have voted for Ron Paul?

Things like that.

Michael
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He's comforted me when I was in complete agony over the death of my husband.

He's hugged me.

He's looked directly into the center of my eye.

Believe me or not these things have happened and more. Right now the rest is personal and not fit for "proving" God exists. Jesus knew that no amount of miracles could convince those who asked to be shown proof. You need to want to have faith.

The further you move from God the further He will allow you to go on in your own deceptions.

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Christianity IS a scam. So what? Living comfortably with this knowledge for around 40 years now. No problem.
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thats why im all about xanderism. why count on jesus to save my soul when people can do it?
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I have a personal relationship with a living person.
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Tell me one thing about this person who you 'personally' know that is not known by someone else.

Does he like broccoli?

Does he have a favorite song, favorite movie, favorite dance?

What does he 'think' about Nietzsche, Buddha and J. Krishnamurti?

Would he have voted for Ron Paul?

Things like that.

Michael
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He's comforted me when I was in complete agony over the death of my husband.

He's hugged me.

He's looked directly into the center of my eye.

Believe me or not these things have happened and more. Right now the rest is personal and not fit for "proving" God exists. Jesus knew that no amount of miracles could convince those who asked to be shown proof. You need to want to have faith.

The further you move from God the further He will allow you to go on in your own deceptions.
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Sorry, dear.

But what you are talking about here is pleasure rather than Truth.

When you become hungry for Truth rather than pleasure, maybe you will understand that Jesus taught a Doctrine completely different than Paul's Christianity.

Michael
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Christianity IS a scam. So what? Living comfortably with this knowledge for around 40 years now. No problem.
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So what?

So millions of Muslims have been slaughtered throughout the Middle East over the past 40 years by agents of Christian nations.

Maybe that is not a problem for you.

But it is certainly a problem for those who do not believe in Christian nonsense.

Michael
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Christianity IS a scam. So what? Living comfortably with this knowledge for around 40 years now. No problem.
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So what?

So millions of Muslims have been slaughtered throughout the Middle East over the past 40 years by agents of Christian nations.

Maybe that is not a problem for you.

But it is certainly a problem for those who do not believe in Christian nonsense.

Michael
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Islam is a scam, too. The insight hurts, but humankind is mostly mad. I'm just a watcher at the wayside. I didn't ask to be born into this world.

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