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SUPPOSE THAT CHRISTAINITY IS ALL A SCAM? THEN WHAT?

 
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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.

Then what? What if you don't believe and its all real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven then not to believe and go to hell. If its not real nothing lost, but if it is you and many other's are screwed.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116


Christians use this reasoning all of the time.
Believing something "just in case" isn't going to save you if Christianity is real.
Are you really using this as a form of "witnessing" to the so called "sinners" of the world?
In revelation it says that it is better to be either hot or cold, lukewarm gets you vomited out of Jesus mouth. How do you know your way of thinking doesn't make you lukewarm?
That would put you in the hot seat.
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Pascal's Wager (also known as Pascal's Gamble)

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I have a personal relationship with a living person.
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Tell me one thing about this person who you 'personally' know that is not known by someone else.

Does he like broccoli?

Does he have a favorite song, favorite movie, favorite dance?

What does he 'think' about Nietzsche, Buddha and J. Krishnamurti?

Would he have voted for Ron Paul?

Things like that.

Michael
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He's comforted me when I was in complete agony over the death of my husband.

He's hugged me.

He's looked directly into the center of my eye.

Believe me or not these things have happened and more. Right now the rest is personal and not fit for "proving" God exists. Jesus knew that no amount of miracles could convince those who asked to be shown proof. You need to want to have faith.

The further you move from God the further He will allow you to go on in your own deceptions.
 Quoting: A Friend


Sorry, dear.

But what you are talking about here is pleasure rather than Truth.

When you become hungry for Truth rather than pleasure, maybe you will understand that Jesus taught a Doctrine completely different than Paul's Christianity.

Michael
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No I am talking about a reality far more important than whether or not he would vote for Ron Paul.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. -Albert Camus

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There doesn't have to be an alternative. This is how EVERY person should live. We all know Christians who cheat on their wives, cheat on their taxes, covet your new car, are greedy, etc. So living for Jesus, as you say, does not make you perfect. America is a Christian nation, and look around you. IF Jesus was REALLY living in the hearts of most people, would we see the crime and poverty that we do?

Maybe you do love your neighbor as yourself, but so do I. I am an atheist and loving your neighbor is just common sense. I don't need some book to teach me morals. I am not an atheist so I can sin. That is just stupid. I am an atheist because all my questions were answered by being one. You could look at a country like Denmark where the people are largely atheist, and they have a much lower crime rate than in America. If you have a wonderful love filled life, that is fine. So do I. But I don't need to believe in a fantasy to have that. I can appreciate this life I have and be a good person and I don't need to depend on a crutch.

I am brave to admit to myself that I won't live after death so I do enjoy this life I have and appreciate it. Do you understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


I do understand but what if Jesus is real and when you die you don't enter oblivion and there is a day in which you stand before God. Either way I am alright. That's what I meant.

You are living a good and honorable life too. Not because you have but because you want to. That is the very same reason I do. The reason you don't see all Christians live as Jesus taught is that they might not be living with Jesus yet. I don't know anyone else's story but my own.
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Well, if you were living in India, you would be a Hindu today. So what if they are correct about their many gods and Jesus was just a myth. Or what if Allah is the correct God and you burn in hell because you were born in the wrong country. There are tons of different gods, even tons of denominations of Christians. For instance, all Mormons think they are practicing the one true religion. Do you honestly sit around and worry about the fact that you may go to hell because you never worshiped in the Mormon church?

I don't worry about such things as dying and going to hell. I know one thing though, ANY god who creates a place of permanent torture for his "beloved" children is NOT a good God. That God would be a demon and there would be no way to trust such a deity. So maybe you should worry about that? Do you only worship your god out of extreme fear? That is not love, by the way. Could you torment your beloved son or daughter for a day? I'll bet you couldn't, and yet this God that you worship does this to people forever??? How can you reconcile your belief in God with that? How do you do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


You bring up many good questions that I don't have the answer for. I do know when I get I chance I will ask some of them and more. One thing I do know is that Jesus said that I am the "only" way. None of the other belief systems claim that at least that I know of.

Also, I don't belong to a denomination of a religion. I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
 Quoting: A Friend


Wow! God bless you, not many are talking? Folks do not believe it is possible to commune with God? But it is a gift of God's grace and mercy....Never the less it is FREE and available to all you seek God...though it is not performance driven. It is a gift, gifts are given.

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I do understand but what if Jesus is real and when you die you don't enter oblivion and there is a day in which you stand before God. Either way I am alright. That's what I meant.

You are living a good and honorable life too. Not because you have but because you want to. That is the very same reason I do. The reason you don't see all Christians live as Jesus taught is that they might not be living with Jesus yet. I don't know anyone else's story but my own.
 Quoting: A Friend

Well, if you were living in India, you would be a Hindu today. So what if they are correct about their many gods and Jesus was just a myth. Or what if Allah is the correct God and you burn in hell because you were born in the wrong country. There are tons of different gods, even tons of denominations of Christians. For instance, all Mormons think they are practicing the one true religion. Do you honestly sit around and worry about the fact that you may go to hell because you never worshiped in the Mormon church?

I don't worry about such things as dying and going to hell. I know one thing though, ANY god who creates a place of permanent torture for his "beloved" children is NOT a good God. That God would be a demon and there would be no way to trust such a deity. So maybe you should worry about that? Do you only worship your god out of extreme fear? That is not love, by the way. Could you torment your beloved son or daughter for a day? I'll bet you couldn't, and yet this God that you worship does this to people forever??? How can you reconcile your belief in God with that? How do you do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


You bring up many good questions that I don't have the answer for. I do know when I get I chance I will ask some of them and more. One thing I do know is that Jesus said that I am the "only" way. None of the other belief systems claim that at least that I know of.

Also, I don't belong to a denomination of a religion. I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
 Quoting: A Friend


Wow! God bless you, not many are talking? Folks do not believe it is possible to commune with God? But it is a gift of God's grace and mercy....Never the less it is FREE and available to all you seek God...though it is not performance driven. It is a gift, gifts are given.

chorusgrouphugchorusgrouphugsmile_kiss
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Thank you. And He is always, always, always available to hear from you. But I bet you knew that already.

happykitty
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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.

Then what? What if you don't believe and its all real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven then not to believe and go to hell. If its not real nothing lost, but if it is you and many other's are screwed.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116


Christians use this reasoning all of the time.
Believing something "just in case" isn't going to save you if Christianity is real.
Are you really using this as a form of "witnessing" to the so called "sinners" of the world?
In revelation it says that it is better to be either hot or cold, lukewarm gets you vomited out of Jesus mouth. How do you know your way of thinking doesn't make you lukewarm?
That would put you in the hot seat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Pascal's Wager (also known as Pascal's Gamble)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


I can understand that, but the person I was responding to has a preconceived belief of what god is. That if he does exist and you don't believe you go to a place of torture for eternity for not believing.
Yet its not that and they only believe he exists, they also believe he requires a blood sacrifice for sin we are born into. Then that belief requires a secondary belief of his son being sent to be our savior that was sacrificed on a cross as the only belief that will get you into heaven.
I never said that I don't believe in a creator/god. I just don't believe in their version anymore.
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Well, if you were living in India, you would be a Hindu today. So what if they are correct about their many gods and Jesus was just a myth. Or what if Allah is the correct God and you burn in hell because you were born in the wrong country. There are tons of different gods, even tons of denominations of Christians. For instance, all Mormons think they are practicing the one true religion. Do you honestly sit around and worry about the fact that you may go to hell because you never worshiped in the Mormon church?

I don't worry about such things as dying and going to hell. I know one thing though, ANY god who creates a place of permanent torture for his "beloved" children is NOT a good God. That God would be a demon and there would be no way to trust such a deity. So maybe you should worry about that? Do you only worship your god out of extreme fear? That is not love, by the way. Could you torment your beloved son or daughter for a day? I'll bet you couldn't, and yet this God that you worship does this to people forever??? How can you reconcile your belief in God with that? How do you do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


You bring up many good questions that I don't have the answer for. I do know when I get I chance I will ask some of them and more. One thing I do know is that Jesus said that I am the "only" way. None of the other belief systems claim that at least that I know of.

Also, I don't belong to a denomination of a religion. I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
 Quoting: A Friend


Wow! God bless you, not many are talking? Folks do not believe it is possible to commune with God? But it is a gift of God's grace and mercy....Never the less it is FREE and available to all you seek God...though it is not performance driven. It is a gift, gifts are given.

chorusgrouphugchorusgrouphugsmile_kiss
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Thank you. And He is always, always, always available to hear from you. But I bet you knew that already.

:happykitty:
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No man I did not always know that. I thought God abandoned me once, for three days I was in the desert on the edge of a "Grand Canyon". The air was dry and the wind was warm.

What happened was I was raised in a family that put Priests on a pedistal. Well that same guy volunteered to be my "Spiritual Director". I thought wow how luckey, but he had other designs on me which became apparent and I confronted him on the issue and he did not deny it. I was f'n floored...my world crumbled. I was over 18 but it was a f'cking insult. I thought God, Jesus Christ and their teachings were rubbish. Thus the 3 days of desert living in my mind.

Well about 30 years later I realized by God's grace that man did me a favor..I came out of that major religion 30 years ago and never looked back. I figured if a Church of any organization teaches 99% correctly the scriptures but everyone mindlessly sits ther vs someone struggling to learn God's Scriptures as in the 4 Gospels and are only %1 correct....I believe that 1% is more valuable than 99% correct scripture if one is just mindlessly nodding yes, no, sit, stand, kneel.....wtf


After the 3 days I realized a man f'kd me over not God, Jesus or their Scriptures. Now orgaized reigions are fantasitc for a sense of community and they hold wonderful retreats that are not really associated with everyday organized church techings. The retreats are spiritual in nature and the Lord's presence can be felt. That was 30 to 40 years ago...now? hf afrohf
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You bring up many good questions that I don't have the answer for. I do know when I get I chance I will ask some of them and more. One thing I do know is that Jesus said that I am the "only" way. None of the other belief systems claim that at least that I know of.

Also, I don't belong to a denomination of a religion. I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
 Quoting: A Friend


Wow! God bless you, not many are talking? Folks do not believe it is possible to commune with God? But it is a gift of God's grace and mercy....Never the less it is FREE and available to all you seek God...though it is not performance driven. It is a gift, gifts are given.

chorusgrouphugchorusgrouphugsmile_kiss
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Thank you. And He is always, always, always available to hear from you. But I bet you knew that already.

happykitty
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No man I did not always know that. I thought God abandoned me once, for three days I was in the desert on the edge of a "Grand Canyon". The air was dry and the wind was warm.

What happened was I was raised in a family that put Priests on a pedistal. Well that same guy volunteered to be my "Spiritual Director". I thought wow how luckey, but he had other designs on me which became apparent and I confronted him on the issue and he did not deny it. I was f'n floored...my world crumbled. I was over 18 but it was a f'cking insult. I thought God, Jesus Christ and their teachings were rubbish. Thus the 3 days of desert living in my mind.

Well about 30 years later I realized by God's grace that man did me a favor..I came out of that major religion 30 years ago and never looked back. I figured if a Church of any organization teaches 99% correctly the scriptures but everyone mindlessly sits ther vs someone struggling to learn God's Scriptures as in the 4 Gospels and are only %1 correct....I believe that 1% is more valuable than 99% correct scripture if one is just mindlessly nodding yes, no, sit, stand, kneel.....wtf


After the 3 days I realized a man f'kd me over not God, Jesus or their Scriptures. Now orgaized reigions are fantasitc for a sense of community and they hold wonderful retreats that are not really associated with everyday organized church techings. The retreats are spiritual in nature and the Lord's presence can be felt. That was 30 to 40 years ago...now? hf afrohf
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Sounds like you and ran away from the same church!

p.s. If you haven't yet get into more of the other books of the bible than just the gospels.

Last Edited by A Friend on 02/14/2013 04:20 PM
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Suppose that Christainity is not a scam and God is real.

Then what? What if you don't believe and its all real?

Is it not better to believe and go to heaven then not to believe and go to hell. If its not real nothing lost, but if it is you and many other's are screwed.
 Quoting: soldier32 1557116


Christians use this reasoning all of the time.
Believing something "just in case" isn't going to save you if Christianity is real.
Are you really using this as a form of "witnessing" to the so called "sinners" of the world?
In revelation it says that it is better to be either hot or cold, lukewarm gets you vomited out of Jesus mouth. How do you know your way of thinking doesn't make you lukewarm?
That would put you in the hot seat.
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Pascal's Wager (also known as Pascal's Gamble)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


I can understand that, but the person I was responding to has a preconceived belief of what god is. That if he does exist and you don't believe you go to a place of torture for eternity for not believing.
Yet its not that and they only believe he exists, they also believe he requires a blood sacrifice for sin we are born into. Then that belief requires a secondary belief of his son being sent to be our savior that was sacrificed on a cross as the only belief that will get you into heaven.
I never said that I don't believe in a creator/god. I just don't believe in their version anymore.
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Please, what other way will get you to Heaven? I know of only one and you commune with the only One God. The rest is pure imitation. All supply comes from God...does yours?

God does not channle, or auto write.....5a

Urantia and Gnosis are not going to get you there, Shinto's are stuck talking to the dead, the Tao gets you so far....so how are you going to get to Heaven?.

Sorry a Led Zepplin song will not do it!


Listen smart ass, if you can be surrounded by God's Love or held in a place of desparation with no hope...........

You end up torturing yourself. Eternal separation from God plus this head is cominf off of the Ouroboros, it will not go on for ever. That is why what is above so below....notice how ENERGY is the issue of $$$ and corruption and war and greed and killing of the planet.

You do not know who exactly it is that is buttering your bread.


WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!

5a5a5a
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Wow! God bless you, not many are talking? Folks do not believe it is possible to commune with God? But it is a gift of God's grace and mercy....Never the less it is FREE and available to all you seek God...though it is not performance driven. It is a gift, gifts are given.

chorusgrouphugchorusgrouphugsmile_kiss
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


Thank you. And He is always, always, always available to hear from you. But I bet you knew that already.

:happykitty:
 Quoting: A Friend


No man I did not always know that. I thought God abandoned me once, for three days I was in the desert on the edge of a "Grand Canyon". The air was dry and the wind was warm.

What happened was I was raised in a family that put Priests on a pedistal. Well that same guy volunteered to be my "Spiritual Director". I thought wow how luckey, but he had other designs on me which became apparent and I confronted him on the issue and he did not deny it. I was f'n floored...my world crumbled. I was over 18 but it was a f'cking insult. I thought God, Jesus Christ and their teachings were rubbish. Thus the 3 days of desert living in my mind.

Well about 30 years later I realized by God's grace that man did me a favor..I came out of that major religion 30 years ago and never looked back. I figured if a Church of any organization teaches 99% correctly the scriptures but everyone mindlessly sits ther vs someone struggling to learn God's Scriptures as in the 4 Gospels and are only %1 correct....I believe that 1% is more valuable than 99% correct scripture if one is just mindlessly nodding yes, no, sit, stand, kneel.....wtf


After the 3 days I realized a man f'kd me over not God, Jesus or their Scriptures. Now orgaized reigions are fantasitc for a sense of community and they hold wonderful retreats that are not really associated with everyday organized church techings. The retreats are spiritual in nature and the Lord's presence can be felt. That was 30 to 40 years ago...now? hf afrohf
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Sounds like you and ran away from the same church!

p.s. If you haven't yet get into more of the other books of the bible than just the gospels.
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The Church is the Body of believers or (No Body) but believers. The future church will be as in the past;

No walls
No ceiling
No floors
No doors
No Treasury
No corruption

I'm in church right now....when ever 2 or more are gathered in Christ's name...there I AM.

hfafrohf


I've been around 52 years I've tried climbing several mountains until I was taught by my teacher....let God do the heavy lifting.

NO the church ran away from its followers and turned the keys over to?

At best it is Laodician.

Started reading scripture at 18. Been through the books several times, always, always, always more onion is peeled away, the veils get thinner and the Lord lifts them for you when the time is right.

Spell Checker is busted

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Thanks friend.... we are close ^^^^^

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Christians use this reasoning all of the time.
Believing something "just in case" isn't going to save you if Christianity is real.
Are you really using this as a form of "witnessing" to the so called "sinners" of the world?
In revelation it says that it is better to be either hot or cold, lukewarm gets you vomited out of Jesus mouth. How do you know your way of thinking doesn't make you lukewarm?
That would put you in the hot seat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Pascal's Wager (also known as Pascal's Gamble)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371470


I can understand that, but the person I was responding to has a preconceived belief of what god is. That if he does exist and you don't believe you go to a place of torture for eternity for not believing.
Yet its not that and they only believe he exists, they also believe he requires a blood sacrifice for sin we are born into. Then that belief requires a secondary belief of his son being sent to be our savior that was sacrificed on a cross as the only belief that will get you into heaven.
I never said that I don't believe in a creator/god. I just don't believe in their version anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Please, what other way will get you to Heaven? I know of only one and you commune with the only One God. The rest is pure imitation. All supply comes from God...does yours?

God does not channle, or auto write.....5a

Urantia and Gnosis are not going to get you there, Shinto's are stuck talking to the dead, the Tao gets you so far....so how are you going to get to Heaven?.

Sorry a Led Zepplin song will not do it!


Listen smart ass, if you can be surrounded by God's Love or held in a place of desparation with no hope...........

You end up torturing yourself. Eternal separation from God plus this head is cominf off of the Ouroboros, it will not go on for ever. That is why what is above so below....notice how ENERGY is the issue of $$$ and corruption and war and greed and killing of the planet.

You do not know who exactly it is that is buttering your bread.


WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!

5a5a5a
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I said that I don't believe things are the way Christians believe them to be.
Religion is a system of control with reward/punishment theme. It divides people and is responsible for a lot of death and hate.
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You are obviously an idiot. Did you read what Albert Pike wrote??? He says that CHRISTIANITY will be destroyed at the same time as atheism. Do you not even understand this simple statement. Christianity is a lie, that is what Pike is saying. It was created to control peons like you, and it does its job well. Albert PIke is part of the Masons. And if you read what he said, which you obviously didn't, it says that the CHRISTIANS will exterminate the atheists. So Christians are obviously barbarians who would never turn the other cheek, but they LOVE Jesus. What a hoot.

You are completely wrong about everything you said. You need to go take a college course in evolution, but I wouldn't imagine you would be intelligent enough to pass the course. Christianity seems to be for really stupid people, who want a simple solution, and don't want to ask questions. If someone tells you that god loves you, you can run with that. Grow up.

I don't believe in ANY gods. I don't believe in the older Egyptian gods, or the gods of the Hindu or Buddhism or any other religion. But these people are usually not on here with their arrogant attitudes like Christians are. Christians are the most arrogant people on this board. You think some god loves you so that gives you the right to come here and throw shit. No one cares about your religion, except other CHristians. But you always put your nose in every conversation about religion. You don't see people of other religions doing this very often.
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Genius...you just told all those here the nature of the problem.

Those others are not targets for "Spiritual Warfare", why? They have no "Spiritual Value" to the enemy. You are really brilliant and probably don't realize it.

You did forget to mention Christ is the only threat to the "Enemy". Thus the attacks. The attacks are from within and from without. Both in men and organized powerful religions. Christ's Light over exposes evil....thus the hate for God and Christ, it is built into us...it is called enmity.

hf
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What enemy are you talking about, idiot? I hope it isn't Satan. Go read your Bible because it is obvious you haven't done that yet. Count how many people GOD killed in the Bible. If you count the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah and all the men, women, children, infants, etc., you would come up with a very high number....about 2 million as an estimate. So how many people did Satan kill? Well, that would be easy...10 people, Job's family. But first he had to get permission from God to kill them and, of course, God said yes.

You are worshiping a creature that killed all the first born CHILDREN of Egypt. He didn't have to but he wanted to. He blinded the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. God killed 70,000 people because David did a census. He killed David's baby because of David and Bathsheba's sin? There is a verse in Psalms: "Happy is he who takes your child and bashes his head against the rocks." So, apparently, God loves to kill innocent children and babies to punish the guilty. Is this REALLY the God you worship? Who is the real enemy?

God permits slavery. He told Moses to kill a man who simply picked up some sticks on Sunday/Saturday, depending on the branch of cult you belong to. He tells YOU to kill all unbelievers and all children who are disobedient and everyone who works on the Sabbath. But you don't listen to those old rules, do you? So before you come on here and act like an idiot, remember that those who believe absurdities are looked at as idiots by most normal people.
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Look I said you are a genius but I was mistaken. You are stuck in the Jewish OLD TESTAMENT...you mention nothing of the NEW DEAL and the NEW TESTAMENT. Tell us all why? Capiche?

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One: The Bible is a complete book including Old and New Testaments. You can't just throw the OT away. You can't just pick out the things you like in the Bible and then toss the rest in the trash. I think that is taking away from Scripture and you could go to hell for that, if you believe the Bible, that is.

Two: Jesus and God are one. You can't separate them either. God's ways are perfect and his laws never change. When Jesus came, he mentioned that not one jot or tittle of the law would disappear by his coming. That is why Jesus actually made it harder to follow the laws and commandments. If you lust after a woman, you have committed adultry. If you hate someone, Jesus considered it the same as murdering that person. Jesus told people that if you called someone a fool, you would be in danger of hellfire.

Jesus told people the road is narrow and few find the way. I find it rather ironic that every single Christian believes themselves to be on that narrow road. Jesus came to show you the way to live, not to be some free ticket to heaven. Why do you think he asked you to be PERFECT, as his father in heaven is perfect? Do you think he was just joking around???

There is no NEW DEAL. You have been deceived. You should know by now that the Bible can be interpreted in thousands of different ways. If you want to please yourself, you can just translate it the way you want so that you can go away happy, like most Christians do. They think it is so simple, just believe that some man died for their sins. That's all they need to do...just believe. That couldn't be further from the truth.

Look, I don't believe in God, don't think a man named Jesus ever lived, I don't believe in Satan. I am intelligent and way past you. You live in a world of fantasy and delusion, you believe in magical invisible beings, but I happen to know that they are all imaginary. You won't bother to investigate all the evidence out there that would prove, without a doubt, that there is no Christian God and that Jesus never existed. The Bible is an absurd and ridiculous book. Come on, you REALLY believe in talking donkeys? You really believe that Samson killed 1000 men with a donkey's jawbone? And on and on, the stories in the Bible are more ridiculous than children's fairy tales.

You do know that God kills infants and demands people to bash babys' heads against stones? You do know that God killed millions of people in the Bible? So I know you worship this monster out of fear, but please don't spread your irrational beliefs on others. You do have to grow up sometime. And when you do, you will look back at this shit you believe and wonder how you could have been so brainwashed. I feel sorry for you. And I don't have spell check so sorry if I spelled something wrong.
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I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
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You externalized a part of yourself and called it Jesus. Then you started talking to it. That's all. It's exactly what little kids do when they have an invisible friend. Invisible friends can be helpful at times. Once I had one too.
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I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
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You externalized a part of yourself and called it Jesus. Then you started talking to it. That's all. It's exactly what little kids do when they have an invisible friend. Invisible friends can be helpful at times. Once I had one too.
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Sorry, I'm not a little kid and He's not an invisible friend.
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I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
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You externalized a part of yourself and called it Jesus. Then you started talking to it. That's all. It's exactly what little kids do when they have an invisible friend. Invisible friends can be helpful at times. Once I had one too.
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Sorry, I'm not a little kid and He's not an invisible friend.
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I have a personal relationship with a living person. I know I do because I know Him personally. First I accepted Him. Then I began to recognize Him. I don't have blind faith based upon fear or a book. I have communion with a loving being who I know personally.
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You externalized a part of yourself and called it Jesus. Then you started talking to it. That's all. It's exactly what little kids do when they have an invisible friend. Invisible friends can be helpful at times. Once I had one too.
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Sorry, I'm not a little kid and He's not an invisible friend.
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Truth hurts.
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Insults are ineffective as arguments too.
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