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The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion

 
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Has you ego been provoked?
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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if you wish to know...

your negative self is attempting to provoke so it can feast on more negative energy
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
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~Seneca
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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if you wish to know...

your negative self is attempting to provoke so it can feast on more negative energy
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Thank you for the explanation.
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
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Interesting. I never said I was enlightened.
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring others down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Especially that is, when one has the ability to do both. And chooses instead the more gentle route.

Turn the other cheek rings true here...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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if you wish to know...

your negative self is attempting to provoke so it can feast on more negative energy
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Thank you for the explanation.
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have a good nite...gotta go. :)
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Not always true. Sometimes you have to grab the ego and shake it up to de-root it. It's usually painful and you're right, one shouldn't have fun with it.
It's just compassionate joy to see the movement towards ego death while it starts struggling for survival.
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
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Interesting. I never said I was enlightened.
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Fair enough.


However, I felt it implied.

Whether it was your intention or not.

I don't play semantic games.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Not always true. Sometimes you have to grab the ego and shake it up to de-root it. It's usually painful and you're right, one shouldn't have fun with it.
It's just compassionate joy to see the movement towards ego death while it starts struggling for survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Ego when balance is an asset. 'Death to Ego' is a falsehood.

One learns to sway in the wind by the stimuli they are presented on a constant basis.


Choosing service to Others...Will

Or service to Self...Desire.

:)

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Ignorance is the cause of suffering. Impatience comes from ignorance.
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In unmoving silence you do not speculate . Unrealized movement creates ignorance. As unrealized thoughts create suffering and inter ignorance.
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[quote:Seer777:

Seer,

have you ever heard of the book, 'remember be here now' ?
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring others down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Especially that is, when one has the ability to do both. And chooses instead the more gentle route.

Turn the other cheek rings true here...
 Quoting: Seer777


The ego happily accepts anyone who approaches it with the gentle route as it has easy play at outwitting any gentle approach. The ego needs to be tricked and often shocked as it is the trickiest and most hard to conquer there is.
You can call it tough love as well. Sometimes the only way top it is through it (the pain)

Turn the other cheek has a different meaning.
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I have not...

Could you give a cliff-notes version? Or should I look it up?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I have not...

Could you give a cliff-notes version? Or should I look it up?
 Quoting: Seer777:


Timothy Leary and a guy ...last name of Alpert..can't recall full name...these guys were both harvard? professors
that began running tests with LSD
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Not always true. Sometimes you have to grab the ego and shake it up to de-root it. It's usually painful and you're right, one shouldn't have fun with it.
It's just compassionate joy to see the movement towards ego death while it starts struggling for survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Ego when balance is an asset. 'Death to Ego' is a falsehood.

One learns to sway in the wind by the stimuli they are presented on a constant basis.


Choosing service to Others...Will

Or service to Self...Desire.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Ego is the parasite as was stated accurately before. The delusion keeping you in bondage.
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timothy leary proved to himself that LSD actually opened an effectual door to 'the infinite'...and he dropped acid quite often for the rest of his life.

Alpert took a different route...he postulated that the LSD opened a door , but the results could not be understood by the uninitiated...so he sought the path of the gurus and went to india etc...to find the path
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I'm just having fun debunking people who claim they are enlightened. :)
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring others down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Especially that is, when one has the ability to do both. And chooses instead the more gentle route.

Turn the other cheek rings true here...
 Quoting: Seer777


The ego happily accepts anyone who approaches it with the gentle route as it has easy play at outwitting any gentle approach. The ego needs to be tricked and often shocked as it is the trickiest and most hard to conquer there is.
You can call it tough love as well. Sometimes the only way top it is through it (the pain)

Turn the other cheek has a different meaning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


What I mean by 'turn the other cheek' is to not allow ones Self, to have feelings superiority over others. But instead a will to serve.

In that, to not feel like one has the function of having fun while bringing others...around if you will.


My point is, I believe there is a better way to do it...without all the pain. It is through proper nurture and gentle compassion.

Yes. Pain causes movement. I know.

As those who come before make it easier for they who come after...

Is that not the way of things?


For example, when I turn on my hot water for a shower, I remember every time they who came before to make that possible. And all those whom never had the luxury.

Gratitude of those and they on whose back we stand.

Indeed.

:)

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the book 'remember be here now' was written by alpert after he found the path, walked it for a few years and then lived a changed life.

the name he chose after his experiences was Ram Dass
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drive car, stop at stop signs
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Finally someone gets it!! lol


"Do the next right thing..."
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Ram Dass is still alive and is a brilliant writer.
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring other down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Not always true. Sometimes you have to grab the ego and shake it up to de-root it. It's usually painful and you're right, one shouldn't have fun with it.
It's just compassionate joy to see the movement towards ego death while it starts struggling for survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Ego when balance is an asset. 'Death to Ego' is a falsehood.

One learns to sway in the wind by the stimuli they are presented on a constant basis.


Choosing service to Others...Will

Or service to Self...Desire.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Ego is the parasite as was stated accurately before. The delusion keeping you in bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It depends on the assumptions of said ego.

As a secondary construct that by definition is supposed to create right or acceptable action; it is not defined by anything but the suppositions of external balance in a group dynamic.
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Why?

If you were 'enlightened' as you say, you would find joy in that not...

You would instead attempt to show them the way and not allow your Ego to get the best of you while doing so.

Certainly not to find 'fun' in attempting to bring others down.


A hand that lifts, is much more than that which strikes.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Especially that is, when one has the ability to do both. And chooses instead the more gentle route.

Turn the other cheek rings true here...
 Quoting: Seer777


The ego happily accepts anyone who approaches it with the gentle route as it has easy play at outwitting any gentle approach. The ego needs to be tricked and often shocked as it is the trickiest and most hard to conquer there is.
You can call it tough love as well. Sometimes the only way top it is through it (the pain)

Turn the other cheek has a different meaning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


What I mean by 'turn the other cheek' is to not allow ones Self, to have feelings superiority over others. But instead a will to serve.

In that, to not feel like one has the function of having fun while bringing others...around if you will.


My point is, I believe there is a better way to do it...without all the pain. It is through proper nurture and gentle compassion.

Yes. Pain causes movement. I know.

As those who come before make it easier for they who come after...

Is that not the way of things?


For example, when I turn on my hot water for a shower, I remember every time they who came before to make that possible. And all those whom never had the luxury.

Gratitude of those and they on whose back we stand.

Indeed.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


It would be great if there was a better way and there is for people who are ready, but even the one who are ready will experience the dark night of the soul as the ego does not want to release its grip without a fight.
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Not always true. Sometimes you have to grab the ego and shake it up to de-root it. It's usually painful and you're right, one shouldn't have fun with it.
It's just compassionate joy to see the movement towards ego death while it starts struggling for survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Ego when balance is an asset. 'Death to Ego' is a falsehood.

One learns to sway in the wind by the stimuli they are presented on a constant basis.


Choosing service to Others...Will

Or service to Self...Desire.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Ego is the parasite as was stated accurately before. The delusion keeping you in bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It depends on the assumptions of said ego.

As a secondary construct that by definition is supposed to create right or acceptable action; it is not defined by anything but the suppositions of external balance in a group dynamic.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


ego is a self aware programmable main frame that is a parasite ...which is used by god beings to experience pain and drama
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Ego when balance is an asset. 'Death to Ego' is a falsehood.

One learns to sway in the wind by the stimuli they are presented on a constant basis.


Choosing service to Others...Will

Or service to Self...Desire.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Ego is the parasite as was stated accurately before. The delusion keeping you in bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It depends on the assumptions of said ego.

As a secondary construct that by definition is supposed to create right or acceptable action; it is not defined by anything but the suppositions of external balance in a group dynamic.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


ego is a self aware programmable main frame that is a parasite ...which is used by god beings to experience pain and drama
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No, but like everything it can be used correctly and incorrectly.

Cheers
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Ego is the parasite as was stated accurately before. The delusion keeping you in bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It depends on the assumptions of said ego.

As a secondary construct that by definition is supposed to create right or acceptable action; it is not defined by anything but the suppositions of external balance in a group dynamic.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


ego is a self aware programmable main frame that is a parasite ...which is used by god beings to experience pain and drama
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19932676


No, but like everything it can be used correctly and incorrectly.

Cheers
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as you will
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Especially that is, when one has the ability to do both. And chooses instead the more gentle route.

Turn the other cheek rings true here...
 Quoting: Seer777


The ego happily accepts anyone who approaches it with the gentle route as it has easy play at outwitting any gentle approach. The ego needs to be tricked and often shocked as it is the trickiest and most hard to conquer there is.
You can call it tough love as well. Sometimes the only way top it is through it (the pain)

Turn the other cheek has a different meaning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


What I mean by 'turn the other cheek' is to not allow ones Self, to have feelings superiority over others. But instead a will to serve.

In that, to not feel like one has the function of having fun while bringing others...around if you will.


My point is, I believe there is a better way to do it...without all the pain. It is through proper nurture and gentle compassion.

Yes. Pain causes movement. I know.

As those who come before make it easier for they who come after...

Is that not the way of things?


For example, when I turn on my hot water for a shower, I remember every time they who came before to make that possible. And all those whom never had the luxury.

Gratitude of those and they on whose back we stand.

Indeed.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


It would be great if there was a better way and there is for people who are ready, but even the one who are ready will experience the dark night of the soul as the ego does not want to release its grip without a fight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I hear you.


And most will be led straight into the depths of insanity in its wake. If not stone steadfast.

That doesn't seem fair.

To me.



Going to the store.

brb.
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The ego happily accepts anyone who approaches it with the gentle route as it has easy play at outwitting any gentle approach. The ego needs to be tricked and often shocked as it is the trickiest and most hard to conquer there is.
You can call it tough love as well. Sometimes the only way top it is through it (the pain)

Turn the other cheek has a different meaning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


What I mean by 'turn the other cheek' is to not allow ones Self, to have feelings superiority over others. But instead a will to serve.

In that, to not feel like one has the function of having fun while bringing others...around if you will.


My point is, I believe there is a better way to do it...without all the pain. It is through proper nurture and gentle compassion.

Yes. Pain causes movement. I know.

As those who come before make it easier for they who come after...

Is that not the way of things?


For example, when I turn on my hot water for a shower, I remember every time they who came before to make that possible. And all those whom never had the luxury.

Gratitude of those and they on whose back we stand.

Indeed.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


It would be great if there was a better way and there is for people who are ready, but even the one who are ready will experience the dark night of the soul as the ego does not want to release its grip without a fight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I hear you.


And most will be led straight into the depths of insanity in its wake. If not stone steadfast.

That doesn't seem fair.

To me.



Going to the store.

brb.
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i'll have a six of corona :"
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It depends on the assumptions of said ego.

As a secondary construct that by definition is supposed to create right or acceptable action; it is not defined by anything but the suppositions of external balance in a group dynamic.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


ego is a self aware programmable main frame that is a parasite ...which is used by god beings to experience pain and drama
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No, but like everything it can be used correctly and incorrectly.

Cheers
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as you will
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The ego prevents you from perceiving your higher self and is the cause of suffering as it behaves like source without being source.
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ego is a self aware programmable main frame that is a parasite ...which is used by god beings to experience pain and drama
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No, but like everything it can be used correctly and incorrectly.

Cheers
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as you will
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The ego prevents you from perceiving your higher self and is the cause of suffering as it behaves like source without being source.
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did you see the question about the letter CT? do they mean anything to you?
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I know that about two years ago, I experienced the all knowing all loving feeling of God, only for a split second...but in that short time I "know" and have been trying to get that feeling again.....sadly to no avail...it was utter Bliss!!! I know this is what awaits us in the Spiritual Realm and can not wait! It can not come soon enough for me!
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I can feel this about 30% of the time. My lover feels it 70% of the time. I venture the darkness in her stead. I play the game so she never ends up dead.

I'm not playing a game. That is correct. I am not playing a game with you.

Frustrated? lol
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Silly. This is where I come to be amused.<3

You played.
You lost too.

What kind of person doesn't answer calls or questions? Someone who doesn't know what to say.
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Fucker. lmao

I was played rather well. I see it now after stepping out for a while.

lmao

That was awesome and brilliant.
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Haha, I think my favorite part was how I could have never done it without you.

Now you'll play just as well. No worries. I'm here to make friends; I force my enemies to choke on their own insides.

I also think so are you. It's okay to be a dick sometimes. It's how you get the pussy wet before you fuck it. :3 In light there are no pussies, so don't worry about fucking. Everything is just a different gradient.

What's funny to us some people will take seriously.
You're either shills or really bad at this game.

Only liars take the time to explain things... so they might sway your beliefs. Your ego protects you as well as tells you what you need to hear but fact is stranger than fiction and they always do. Your reality isn't only built by perceiving even if you are awake.

Don't worry; this was all apart from you.

Don't worry; this was all a part from you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


...as you try and explain what you are thinking of others.

chuckle
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hhahaha. entertaining observation.

the true observer..such as buddha, christ, guru...is quiet and still ...unless you happen to find one, physically...and ask him a question. Otherwise he REMAINS quiet and still. ...

not sure how 'relevent' my experiences are for anyone here...but..

from experience...not a book or an ego trip hypothetical dream..

#1- There is a consciousness which resides in the human body that IS NOT 'YOU'. It is a parasite, and it is self aware. It is what you THINK you are. 'you' use 'IT' in order to live a sort of drama.

This parasite's abilities are vast and far reaching. The parasite is a thought maker, just as much as you are. It will introduce thoughts into your head..by the millions per day. In fact, most people have no original thought...they are simple reactors to the parasite which controls them by PROVOKING THEM to react negatively.

All fear, all stress, all excitement, all stimulation, IS FROM YOUR REACTION TO THE PROVOCATIONS OF THE PARASITE.

this parasite feeds off of your reactions. Your energy feeds 'it'.

Very FEW recognize this separate entity...and do something independent from it. This is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge. Up to this point, you are a slave to 'it'. At this point of making this distinction, ...you are at the first stage of AWARENESS.

Once you realize that you are not 'it'...you become aware of #2 and you are in a postion to free yourself from #1.

by the way, #1 is insane and can NEVER be made sane. ..although many will preach the exact opposite.

#2 The second consciousness is you as a positive observer...it is absolutely positive. If you can maintain this state, you will BE EXPERIENCING 'NIRVANA'. Nirvana is real for I have lived in it for long periods...it is absolute bliss. This state cannot be found , nor experienced except through disciplined meditation...there is no other way...there are no books, there are no words that can teach this.

Being in the #2 position, you are absolutely free from negativity and you have absolutely NO extraneous thought. Your mind is absolutely quiet!...without effort.. Your understandings are beyond words and you find it completely unimportant to relate your experience to others.

The only 'problem' with the #2 state is that you are still bound by your reaction to perfection...you experience absolute beauty, perfection...you understand that there is no error , and the beauty of it is absolute...and you are ATTACHED to the beauty of it.

I only experienced 'freedom' from the attachment to being in the #2 position for two brief periods ..both of these times were only minutes in duration. ...and those moments were 'terrifying' after returning to #2 and contemplating the experience.

#3 is objective consciousness. It is the 'I AM' without feeling of any kind. There is no positive, there is no negative. It is absolute power. It is absolute creation.

It is so 'STILL' that it is 'terrible'. It is NOTHING. it is the 'nothingness' that the buddha spoke of. It is the absolute realization that you ARE GOD. You have no identity.

You do not 'experience' anything. You are the consciousness of energy.

The first two of the above are 'you' until you realize that they are not 'you'. When you become free from all attachment through much dedication and devotion to 'what is'...then you find that you are merely the consciousness of energy having an experience...layers deep.

I've never read any book like what I have experienced. There are no books that can 'teach' this. Nor debates that can prove/disprove it.

It is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19932676


I would agree with you if I hadn't already walked through seven separate objective levels of consciousness on both sides of the darkness and light.

I'd list and explain them but I've done an awful lot of school work today and now I've got to drive for a few hours so I might hold my lover close.


I'll leave you with this though:
You make your own decisions. Some people place their faith in god because they're too afraid to place faith in themselves. Relax, lighten up; the only trick there is is to have faith in yourself. How you get there is your choice. The rest is just background noise... but you're still the one deciding what you're listening to.

Or who. Yeah, we're quite literally and clearly god.

But how do we shift the controllers?

You should never stop playing until you do.

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