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The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion

 
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You called me (and others participating on this thread) a shill with an ego, merely for posting thoughts about consciousness.

You are no messenger. Don't let your ego fool you.
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Still skipping said separated stuff? If you weren't so attached you might get it! I said you're either shills OR (this was a set-up for a dichotomous ((di = 2; chotomous = adjusted syntax for system)) situation) really bad at this game.

Maybe I Was Playing Halo While You Were Playing Call Of Duty.

Sometimes I forget we don't all know we're on the same page.

My ego is dead.

All that remains is it's violence and creativity.

I kill it when it goes too far so it can't get past me.
I'm too slow to catch up otherwise.


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Who is the "I" you refer to that kills the ego? Your alter ego....?
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I stated earlier and I refuse to quote myself...

but I like a challenge so I'll try my hand at this.

The I that believes I still need to be doing things is not the I that has already done things. The one who wrote earlier is also gone but there's still an I that tells me I need to be doing things. That is the I.
You all are overthinking it.
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Uhh, to be fair, I made a deal so I have to. Apparently the only way some people can be pushed to feel is by thinking about it.
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The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
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I'm not playing a game. That is correct. I am not playing a game with you.

Frustrated? lol
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Silly. This is where I come to be amused.<3

You played.
You lost too.

What kind of person doesn't answer calls or questions? Someone who doesn't know what to say.
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Lol, the self avowed king of the internet decrees it, does he?
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It's awfully annoying to translate back useless things. English is my fourth language. First time I've heard self-avowed anything.

Try. your. hand. at. the. questions or you're just as useless to me?

I like the title of king... if it comes with a queen? Thank you for giving it to me! :]<3 Other-wise I'm alright being a knight of destiny. (Get it? Get it? Probably not which is sad. I believe it's called a homonym?)

I'm not playing a game. That is correct. I am not playing a game with you.

Frustrated? lol
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Silly. This is where I come to be amused.<3

You played.
You lost too.

What kind of person doesn't answer calls or questions? Someone who doesn't know what to say.
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OK, I lost. You won. Congrats!
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If you lose, I lose. My job is to push you then save you.

I can't play if I run out of competition.
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
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Nice post!

You, in a way just described sonoluminescence.

Remember though, its ALL spins states. It's all electricity and magnetism in different spin states.


toruslinespin:

Your sphere ends up becoming a torus, which creates polarity, and another 'point' as you call it, in its center. That point, is another torus.

nesttorus:

But, that only goes 2 directions. We need a tesseract, with nested toruses, that way we can go infinite in all directions, even inside/outside! Which makes the points everywhere, even crossing the threshold of in/out.

indra'snet:
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Very cooL!
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Yeah, I like what you said. That felt really good. When you said sphere, and only went to 3D, well, we needed to step it up a notch, and go 4D. How? With the torus model in motion.

thumbs
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Yes, absolutely! to get 3d from one point, the vibration is necessary which implies a passage of time for the vibration to occur, to be measured = 4d....

What is causing the universe to vibrate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


POW! You just said why I said The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion.

As to why all is vibrating...well, for one, it has to or the physical couldn't exist. And, whatever secret it is, well, it has always vibrated, through eternity/infinity? But is that really such a long 'time'? After all, in truth, in the entire physical universe, there is only NOW.
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Vibration = Word of God (?)

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Check this out. Let's go beyond duality. The pattern of motion in lateral spin states of the torus, shows us that we can transcend our thinking beyond dualities.

See the Mobius Strip?

The Möbius strip or Möbius band (UK /&#712;m&#604;rbi&#601;s/ or US /&#712;mo&#650;bi&#601;s/; German: [&#712;mø&#720;bi&#815;&#650;s]), also Mobius or Moebius, is a surface with only one side and only one boundary component. The Möbius strip has the mathematical property of being non-orientable.
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:toruslinespin:

See the path? Follow between the yellow dots. The Mobius Strip just went from being a 'band', to a dimensional form, embedded within movement of an inverting torus.

rockon

Oh shit! The universe isn't made up of duality...its made up of non-orientable movement!

But, through complexity, orientation is formed. Thus, the sun has a north/south pole, and everything within its influence has a north/south pole. Including us! No wonder we are 'stuck' in duality thought mode.

Ha. Went off on a conscious stream of not thinking.

Hope that made sense.
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That sounds like a good track...I have to think on it more.
One thing that I have found when thinking on this...if the system gets too confusing to describe, it is probably the wrong track, so I strive to "simplify" what is going on. I believe the universe CAN be understood; with the people you have referred to here, they were on the right track moving to simplicity of "why".
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Still skipping said separated stuff? If you weren't so attached you might get it! I said you're either shills OR (this was a set-up for a dichotomous ((di = 2; chotomous = adjusted syntax for system)) situation) really bad at this game.

Maybe I Was Playing Halo While You Were Playing Call Of Duty.

Sometimes I forget we don't all know we're on the same page.

My ego is dead.

All that remains is it's violence and creativity.

I kill it when it goes too far so it can't get past me.
I'm too slow to catch up otherwise.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Who is the "I" you refer to that kills the ego? Your alter ego....?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I stated earlier and I refuse to quote myself...

but I like a challenge so I'll try my hand at this.

The I that believes I still need to be doing things is not the I that has already done things. The one who wrote earlier is also gone but there's still an I that tells me I need to be doing things. That is the I.
You all are overthinking it.
 Quoting: ib 34387653


Uhh, to be fair, I made a deal so I have to. Apparently the only way some people can be pushed to feel is by thinking about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
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I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
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Very cooL!
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Yeah, I like what you said. That felt really good. When you said sphere, and only went to 3D, well, we needed to step it up a notch, and go 4D. How? With the torus model in motion.

thumbs
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes, absolutely! to get 3d from one point, the vibration is necessary which implies a passage of time for the vibration to occur, to be measured = 4d....

What is causing the universe to vibrate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


POW! You just said why I said The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion.

As to why all is vibrating...well, for one, it has to or the physical couldn't exist. And, whatever secret it is, well, it has always vibrated, through eternity/infinity? But is that really such a long 'time'? After all, in truth, in the entire physical universe, there is only NOW.
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Perelman called it the power of nothing. (3)
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AC, here is my sonoluminescence thread.

Thread: BUBBLEGATE: Sonoluminescence - and Sonofusion - Acoustic Inertial Confinement Fusion - DARPA/UCLA/Oak Ridge Lab/Purdue Univ. - Coverup

It is what you described when you said something vibrates all around, it forms a sphere, a cavity...full of a massive amount of energy.
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
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haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
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Yeah, I like what you said. That felt really good. When you said sphere, and only went to 3D, well, we needed to step it up a notch, and go 4D. How? With the torus model in motion.

thumbs
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes, absolutely! to get 3d from one point, the vibration is necessary which implies a passage of time for the vibration to occur, to be measured = 4d....

What is causing the universe to vibrate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


POW! You just said why I said The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion.

As to why all is vibrating...well, for one, it has to or the physical couldn't exist. And, whatever secret it is, well, it has always vibrated, through eternity/infinity? But is that really such a long 'time'? After all, in truth, in the entire physical universe, there is only NOW.
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Perelman called it the power of nothing. (3)
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3.6.9
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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There was no beginning or end. There IS no beginning or end. Just changes.
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God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static.

Consciousness is the spiritual awareness of Being, of all-knowing, all-power and all-presence.

Thinking is electric.

God's thinking is expressed by two-way moving wave extensions from consciousness, like a lever swinging up on a fixed fulcrum, or like waves extending from the calm sea. Thought expression is dynamic. Thinking belongs to the electrically sensed and conditioned vibrating universe of motion.

The Self of man belongs to the static , invisible, conscious, unconditional universe of KNOWING. We express knowing in the dynamic, visible, electrically conditioned universe of sensation.

Sensation is the electrical awareness of motion simulating the spiritual QUALITIES of the One Idea by creating image QUANTITIES of separate forms which seem to have substance.

Consciousness is real. Sensation simulates reality through motion of interchanging lights, but the mirage of a city is not the city it reflects.


~Walter Russell, The Secret of Light
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I'm reading Walter Russell's The Secret of Light, and something smacked me upside the head. It has to do with balance.

In a dualistic concept we think of positive/negative being just that. On one side there is positive, and the other negative. Balance is strived for between the two.

That is incorrect, and this idea has radically changed my thought form concerning this, as I could not see how there was actual balance between this, except for mathematically.

Instead, let us think of it the way Walter Russell thought of it. Pure balance is positive. Negative is on either side of positive. So, the further away you swing to extremities, or the further out of balance things are, the further away from the positive nature of the universe.

OK, here is Russell's words:

The Positive Principle

The foundation of the spiritual universe is stillness; the balanced stillness of the One magnetic Light of God.

Balanced stillness is the Positive Principle of stability and unity. In it there are no negations.

The Negative Principle

The foundation of the physical universe is motion; the ever-changing motion arising out of the pairs of unbalanced conditions which must forever move to seek the balanced stillness of unity from which they sprang as multiple [airs of units.

Unbalanced motion is the Negative Principle of instability, multiplicity, and separateness which is this physical universe of electric octave waves of opposed lights.


Walter Russell viewed the positive as GodLike. The negative as material reality. Not to be mistaken with good/evil. That is man made. But, the pure stillness of the positive, which everything moves around, is the gateway to God...to our spirits...to the non-material.

He viewed material manifestation as the convergence of two lights. Remember the twin opposing vortices. Well, they are light, and where they overlap, is where perceptual physical reality resides. When we think of the vortices as gradations within their own fields, then we can visualize complexity arising within the convergence of light gradations.

All of this in motion from two 'light fields', or our electric charge field and magnetic charge field. With the light containing the motion, pulling mass into dimension through movement, from the dimensionless stillness of what Russell thought of as God.

Seeing the invisible that is right in front of us.

This is summarized, so there will be some details that are not presented 100% accurately. But, I am looking at the structure of how we view dualistic properties.

Basically, we look at it as positive/negative, with balance somewhere between.

Instead, look at positive as the fulcrum point, with negative out to either side of the fulcrum point. The closer to the fulcrum point (balance) the closer to positive aspects of the universe. The further out the swing, the more imbalance with that system; and thus, the further from positive attributes.

I am not discounting either value of positive/negative within the manifested reality of matter. Instead, I am viewing it with the positive condition of the universe being the fulcrum point, with imbalance being the negative.

It has often been declared that the human mind could never comprehend God. That statement has been based upon the assumption that the reason we could never comprehend God is that our senses could not detect God.

It is true that we cannot see God but we can KNOW Him. And therein is the essence of New Age thinking. The next hundred years will see as great a spiritual advance in the culture of our civilization as it has seen physically during the past hundred years. That which we cannot see, we can KNOW. We can see the bodies of men but we cannot see man, for the supreme Being within man is invisible. He cannot be seen. He can only be known. For the same reason we cannot see God but we can know Him, and we can know the nature of God by knowing His laws and creative processes.

[link to www.walter-russell.de]

In revelation of what he terms “natural science,” Russell presents a two-way, magnetic-electric thought-wave universe, cyclic in nature and eternally “creating,” as opposed to the “created, expanding, entropic universe” of current science.

Russell’s philosophy of the science of Being, the invisible world of Cause—the nature of consciousness, knowing, thinking, sensing, inspiration, intuition, energy, and the creative process—and the science of Expressed Being, the visible world of Effect—the nature of light, the wave structure of universal creation, the creation of the elements that make up our visible world, and the cycle nature of life and death— are proven a unified continuum.

[link to www.philosophy.org]
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
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haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
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Finally something of substance.

Good post.
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
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1dunno1
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.


There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
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We created a dream, and became the dreamers.
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1dunno1
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
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No, there was the sublingual vibration. One premise of vibration atop the other.

All form is pulse. All pulse sound.
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
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No, there was the sublingual vibration. One premise of vibration atop the other.

All form is pulse. All pulse sound.
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Associate pyramids and biomechanical function adhering to percieved form.
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
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When we "recall" a memory, we are actually ACCESSING it from "off site"!

This is why some can tap into YOUR storage.

???
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
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Right, some could be mixed up in the "memory storage center". It's electrical in nature.
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Who is the "I" you refer to that kills the ego? Your alter ego....?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I stated earlier and I refuse to quote myself...

but I like a challenge so I'll try my hand at this.

The I that believes I still need to be doing things is not the I that has already done things. The one who wrote earlier is also gone but there's still an I that tells me I need to be doing things. That is the I.
You all are overthinking it.
 Quoting: ib 34387653


Uhh, to be fair, I made a deal so I have to. Apparently the only way some people can be pushed to feel is by thinking about it.
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The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
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I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


As long as one has an interest to push the tides and proceeds to do so, more karma will be created and the attachment to 3D matter and the dualistic experience cannot be transcended.
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
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I think this is the right track. Perhaps our personal 'field' (auric field ?) contains most memory. Some memory is within our brains (electric/magnetic) with synapses etc. The entire human collective memory within the magnetosphere, etc.
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
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Placement in a perspectivist web.

As within without. We can only create what we know.
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Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion
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I stated earlier and I refuse to quote myself...

but I like a challenge so I'll try my hand at this.

The I that believes I still need to be doing things is not the I that has already done things. The one who wrote earlier is also gone but there's still an I that tells me I need to be doing things. That is the I.
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Uhh, to be fair, I made a deal so I have to. Apparently the only way some people can be pushed to feel is by thinking about it.
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The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
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I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
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As long as one has an interest to push the tides and proceeds to do so, more karma will be created and the attachment to 3D matter and the dualistic experience cannot be transcended.
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3d matter is not 3d as it is the basis of patterning.
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Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion
Vibration = Word of God (?)

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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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There was no beginning or end. There IS no beginning or end. Just changes.
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
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The word is Ohm.
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Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion
How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
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Consciousness. Source. The One. God. Whatever you want to call it. Just like nested toruses, one torus containing memories of the ones inside it, not the ones above it.
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The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


There was no beginning or end. There IS no beginning or end. Just changes.
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I was able to see that movie. Some really slow parts but you see things you would never have seen.

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