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The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion

 
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OP, one of the best GLP posts in weeks. Thanks. WR rocks.
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Consciousness. Source. The One. God. Whatever you want to call it. Just like nested toruses, one torus containing memories of the ones inside it, not the ones above it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That is not an answer for me. I think others drop thoughts into your head and I also believe in the download idea although no one I know has said they have access to the computer.

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OP, one of the best GLP posts in weeks. Thanks. WR rocks.
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Thanks!

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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Consciousness. Source. The One. God. Whatever you want to call it. Just like nested toruses, one torus containing memories of the ones inside it, not the ones above it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That is not an answer for me. I think others drop thoughts into your head and I also believe in the download idea although no one I know has said they have access to the computer.
 Quoting: WindyMind


I knew what you were talking about, Windy. I don't know that answer. Direct influence of specific thoughts. 1dunno1
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Consciousness. Source. The One. God. Whatever you want to call it. Just like nested toruses, one torus containing memories of the ones inside it, not the ones above it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes, this is how the concept of "reincarnation" can be scientifically valid, if new born taps into "memory area" of humanity.
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Scientists are clueless. They look in the wrong places. They actually think they will find some kind of microprocessor in the brain or the brain cells. They have not even began to decipher the brain which is just a sender/receiver. Only one evaluation of consciousness enters the equation, there may be a chance to get a glimpse of what the brain is.
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How do you know your thoughts are your thoughts? Who puts the thoughts there, where do they come from?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Consciousness. Source. The One. God. Whatever you want to call it. Just like nested toruses, one torus containing memories of the ones inside it, not the ones above it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes, this is how the concept of "reincarnation" can be scientifically valid, if new born taps into "memory area" of humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Espcially reincarnation of "relatives" would be more likely as your brain would be electrically tuned along the same "pattern" as your ancestors, and therefore can more easily tap into THEIR storage and not others. As you grow you learn to develop that pattern and thereby develop personality.
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Scientists are clueless. They look in the wrong places. They actually think they will find some kind of microprocessor in the brain or the brain cells. They have not even began to decipher the brain which is just a sender/receiver. Only one evaluation of consciousness enters the equation, there may be a chance to get a glimpse of what the brain is.
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Well, most base 'real' science on Scientific Methodology, which is fully physical based. So, they have to disregard non-material aspects.

Quantum Physics finally punched a hole in it, but still many cling tenaciously to only the physical aspects of reality, thinking that is all there is.
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It's a cool avatar. :)

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It's a cool avatar. :)
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Thank you. I like it too.
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Finally something of substance.

Good post.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Something of substance was finally found for you. Congratulations! Maybe now you can realize it isn't all just about you. I've got muggle classes again so I'll leave something from someone else for you. That's how you like to take credit anyways. I prefer currency for real exchange.

The bricks get laid,
and they get torn up,
and laid again,
but the bricks always get torn up again.

Your friends won't wait,
so don't believe that shit,
when they say they'll wait.
Trust me: your friends will not wait for you.
Then you'll be stoned in some park,
just nodding your head and pinching your arms,
when a girl walks along.
She's humming your song,
with your t-shirt on.
that's when you're done,
Oh, that's when you're done...

There's a cotton crush,
down in the southern states.
But back up here, man, we've got
so much thread and space
to waste, waste, waste.

Vibration = Word of God (?)

1dunno1
 Quoting: Septenary Man


The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


No, there was the sublingual vibration. One premise of vibration atop the other.

All form is pulse. All pulse sound.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus

You talk as if darkness takes no form.

...


I stated earlier and I refuse to quote myself...

but I like a challenge so I'll try my hand at this.

The I that believes I still need to be doing things is not the I that has already done things. The one who wrote earlier is also gone but there's still an I that tells me I need to be doing things. That is the I.
...


Uhh, to be fair, I made a deal so I have to. Apparently the only way some people can be pushed to feel is by thinking about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


As long as one has an interest to push the tides and proceeds to do so, more karma will be created and the attachment to 3D matter and the dualistic experience cannot be transcended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It's how I make sure I can't be drowned. It's how I know what they measure. I'm not here to leave. I'm here to be.

Do you expect the duality of billions to be defeated by people who leave it alone? How else do you think they've gotten so much control of this place? They let anyone who sees it fit to leave find a gate.
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Scientists are clueless. They look in the wrong places. They actually think they will find some kind of microprocessor in the brain or the brain cells. They have not even began to decipher the brain which is just a sender/receiver. Only one evaluation of consciousness enters the equation, there may be a chance to get a glimpse of what the brain is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Well, most base 'real' science on Scientific Methodology, which is fully physical based. So, they have to disregard non-material aspects.

Quantum Physics finally punched a hole in it, but still many cling tenaciously to only the physical aspects of reality, thinking that is all there is.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Agreed. Quantum physics only takes them towards the microcosm of things, but still things...
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Finally something of substance.

Good post.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Something of substance was finally found for you. Congratulations! Maybe now you can realize it isn't all just about you. I've got muggle classes again so I'll leave something from someone else for you. That's how you like to take credit anyways. I prefer currency for real exchange.

The bricks get laid,
and they get torn up,
and laid again,
but the bricks always get torn up again.

Your friends won't wait,
so don't believe that shit,
when they say they'll wait.
Trust me: your friends will not wait for you.
Then you'll be stoned in some park,
just nodding your head and pinching your arms,
when a girl walks along.
She's humming your song,
with your t-shirt on.
that's when you're done,
Oh, that's when you're done...

There's a cotton crush,
down in the southern states.
But back up here, man, we've got
so much thread and space
to waste, waste, waste.

...


The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


No, there was the sublingual vibration. One premise of vibration atop the other.

All form is pulse. All pulse sound.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus

You talk as if darkness takes no form.

...


The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


As long as one has an interest to push the tides and proceeds to do so, more karma will be created and the attachment to 3D matter and the dualistic experience cannot be transcended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It's how I make sure I can't be drowned. It's how I know what they measure. I'm not here to leave. I'm here to be.

Do you expect the duality of billions to be defeated by people who leave it alone? How else do you think they've gotten so much control of this place? They let anyone who sees it fit to leave find a gate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


It is the pattern light resides in. Each in other defined in opposite. It is apparent as the skin it vibrates through.

Cheers
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I will read the BUBBLE thread soon, looks very good!

Here is another possible insight...

Our brains are NOT storing our own memories. They are simply PROCESSING AND SORTING for the INFORMATION TO BE STORED ELSEWHERE (in Earth or in Sun, or in universe center).

This is a new revelation, not mine.

The more they study the brain the more they find that there is no location for MEMORY STORAGE, as if it is "OFF SITE" storage!

Are we all simply COLLECTORS OF EXPERIENCE = "GOD'S" FINGERS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Scientists are clueless. They look in the wrong places. They actually think they will find some kind of microprocessor in the brain or the brain cells. They have not even began to decipher the brain which is just a sender/receiver. Only one evaluation of consciousness enters the equation, there may be a chance to get a glimpse of what the brain is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Well, most base 'real' science on Scientific Methodology, which is fully physical based. So, they have to disregard non-material aspects.

Quantum Physics finally punched a hole in it, but still many cling tenaciously to only the physical aspects of reality, thinking that is all there is.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Also. Q.P. shows that everything is vibrating and does not necessarily advance humanity, but offers further pitfalls because the new agers and all the ones who like to manipulate that which is manifest are now given tools to manipulate the manifest without understanding the consequences and therefore creating more imbalance. (i.e. The Secret)
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Finally something of substance.

Good post.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Something of substance was finally found for you. Congratulations! Maybe now you can realize it isn't all just about you. I've got muggle classes again so I'll leave something from someone else for you. That's how you like to take credit anyways. I prefer currency for real exchange.

The bricks get laid,
and they get torn up,
and laid again,
but the bricks always get torn up again.

Your friends won't wait,
so don't believe that shit,
when they say they'll wait.
Trust me: your friends will not wait for you.
Then you'll be stoned in some park,
just nodding your head and pinching your arms,
when a girl walks along.
She's humming your song,
with your t-shirt on.
that's when you're done,
Oh, that's when you're done...

There's a cotton crush,
down in the southern states.
But back up here, man, we've got
so much thread and space
to waste, waste, waste.

...


The first "word" that started the first motion and all sub-motions!

This is assuming time, but time is not real either.

The word can then be simply a thought, the one thought that drives all sub-thoughts. This thought is translated by us as vibration and motion. We have developed 5 senses AROUND detecting the "motion".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Stop. Words mean nothing.

Um. Wn. Wu is chinese for death. It's abstraction in an attempt to define or install a concept.

Remember you are being programmed, you are the program or you are the programmer.

There were symbols before words.

Motion is the best illusion. You have to be started to see it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


No, there was the sublingual vibration. One premise of vibration atop the other.

All form is pulse. All pulse sound.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus

You talk as if darkness takes no form.

...


The I that you're describing sounds like karma that still needs to play out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


I'm playing it out! Relax, don't check on me. Check on you.

After all, there's a reason or a something that you're here to do.

I've heard about being karma-less but I need to be able to push the tides as well as be pulled by them so I might find the space in between.

I wants all the secrets; all the sanity; not just what's conveniently in front of me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


As long as one has an interest to push the tides and proceeds to do so, more karma will be created and the attachment to 3D matter and the dualistic experience cannot be transcended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


It's how I make sure I can't be drowned. It's how I know what they measure. I'm not here to leave. I'm here to be.

Do you expect the duality of billions to be defeated by people who leave it alone? How else do you think they've gotten so much control of this place? They let anyone who sees it fit to leave find a gate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


You won't defeat anything if you play on their frequency.
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)


scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


applause
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)


scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


applause
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hf

I appreciate and thank you for your thread.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2



It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
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Lol, so far you aren't saying a thing.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


haha, that's because I'm saying everything...

that isn't already being said. just because we know where the traps are doesn't mean we should let people walk in to them. once, that was you. me too.

I've questioned you! That's | | much more than you've managed to do.

The best questions are the ones you have no answers to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Finally something of substance.

Good post.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Something of substance was finally found for you. Congratulations! Maybe now you can realize it isn't all just about you. I've got muggle classes again so I'll leave something from someone else for you. That's how you like to take credit anyways. I prefer currency for real exchange.

The bricks get laid,
and they get torn up,
and laid again,
but the bricks always get torn up again.

Your friends won't wait,
so don't believe that shit,
when they say they'll wait.
Trust me: your friends will not wait for you.
Then you'll be stoned in some park,
just nodding your head and pinching your arms,
when a girl walks along.
She's humming your song,
with your t-shirt on.
that's when you're done,
Oh, that's when you're done...

There's a cotton crush,
down in the southern states.
But back up here, man, we've got
so much thread and space
to waste, waste, waste.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064


Damn, I really like that.

Don't get your 'that's how you like to take credit anyways' comment.
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2



It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Quite a few, actually. Many beings are waking up now.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
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It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
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Quite a few, actually. Many beings are waking up now.
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Don't be fooled. There is a difference between waking up to there is something more and awakening. Most ppl think they are awakened the moment they wake up to "that there is something more." Sometimes ppl receive a glimpse of the oneness and immediately think they are enlightened. It is true that more light is coming in to support spiritual advancement, but most are little babies in awe when they perceive a glimpse of magnificent existence and immediately apply their habits of owning those experiences and call themselves awake. In truth, they know nothing....yet :) The transcended ones are very few.
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What IS enlightenment then? And how do you "find" what has been there the whole time, just waiting to be acknowledged?
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2



It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Quite a few, actually. Many beings are waking up now.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Don't be fooled. There is a difference between waking up to there is something more and awakening. Most ppl think they are awakened the moment they wake up to "that there is something more." Sometimes ppl receive a glimpse of the oneness and immediately think they are enlightened. It is true that more light is coming in to support spiritual advancement, but most are little babies in awe when they perceive a glimpse of magnificent existence and immediately apply their habits of owning those experiences and call themselves awake. In truth, they know nothing....yet :) The transcended ones are very few.
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I agree with you here.

Being awake is much different than most people think.

Not saying you are wrong, Zephyr...but it is all a process, and most do not know the depths of where it can take you.
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Consciousness is where it all starts. There would be no physical universe or experience of it without "God Consciousness" or "God awareness". I am not denoting any religious meaning when I use the term "god". It is simply a discriptive word that means "the one" to me.

When one has the experience of awakening, they directly experience this oneness with all that is. They become aware that there is no separation from anything. (So therefore, all thought is coming from the one as well as everything else, for those of you that were dicussing thought.)

scilent, aware, beingness that rests in a state of being without entertaining thought, is how one comes to experience awakening.
 Quoting: Zephyr2



It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Quite a few, actually. Many beings are waking up now.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Don't be fooled. There is a difference between waking up to there is something more and awakening. Most ppl think they are awakened the moment they wake up to "that there is something more." Sometimes ppl receive a glimpse of the oneness and immediately think they are enlightened. It is true that more light is coming in to support spiritual advancement, but most are little babies in awe when they perceive a glimpse of magnificent existence and immediately apply their habits of owning those experiences and call themselves awake. In truth, they know nothing....yet :) The transcended ones are very few.
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Everyone will wake up eventually and each ones path is different. So what someone gets a glimpse and thinks they are enlightened. So what they don't know much yet. I look at my own path and see how many times I have stumbled or mistook/mispreceived an experience and yet I regret nothing because it has brought me to where I am now...and that is not even the end. I will continue to wake up always and All ways. And so will everyone else. We all go back home eventually. It matters not at all how we get there.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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There was no beginning or end. There IS no beginning or end. Just changes.
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Just because you can't remember, does not mean that no one can remember.

Yes, there was a beginning to the consciousness of the "self". It is in the 'movement' of self-reflection.

And, yes, the consciousness of the 'thinker' begins when it 'thinks' itself into existence.

But, as Agent Smith says in Matrix Revolutions: "Whatever has a beginning has an end, Neo."

The consciousness that is non-temporal and non-spatial is the consciousness Created by God.

Michael
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What IS enlightenment then? And how do you "find" what has been there the whole time, just waiting to be acknowledged?
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How?

Stop searching.
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You won't defeat anything if you play on their frequency.
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Haha, what you don't see is that I'm taking others with me.

I don't have many friends that will play this game with me.

So I make them.

First, the basics like seducing women, how the markets mark us, con us (spanglish) and accepting they stole proper love from us.

Then I usually try to ask them about god or technology or quantum physics or molecular biology but I've lost many a friend by pushing them too close to the edge...

That's why I'm lucky to have you guys.<3


This is round infinity.

Winner takes all. Perception as your trophy.

It is the pattern light resides in. Each in other defined in opposite. It is apparent as the skin it vibrates through.

Cheers
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There is something to be found and said for each side.

There is ultimate knowing in darkness.
There is ultimate being in light.

One side isn't worth it and will spend forever trying to convince you it is.
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It's well said but how many who can spell out the theory that could have been acquired in literature, have actually gone there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Quite a few, actually. Many beings are waking up now.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Don't be fooled. There is a difference between waking up to there is something more and awakening. Most ppl think they are awakened the moment they wake up to "that there is something more." Sometimes ppl receive a glimpse of the oneness and immediately think they are enlightened. It is true that more light is coming in to support spiritual advancement, but most are little babies in awe when they perceive a glimpse of magnificent existence and immediately apply their habits of owning those experiences and call themselves awake. In truth, they know nothing....yet :) The transcended ones are very few.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34391377


Everyone will wake up eventually and each ones path is different. So what someone gets a glimpse and thinks they are enlightened. So what they don't know much yet. I look at my own path and see how many times I have stumbled or mistook/mispreceived an experience and yet I regret nothing because it has brought me to where I am now...and that is not even the end. I will continue to wake up always and All ways. And so will everyone else. We all go back home eventually. It matters not at all how we get there.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


I wouldn't be so sure that everyone will get home.

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