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4Q529 User ID: 34393682 United States 02/14/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Quoting: Septenary Man Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Last Edited by 4Q529 on 02/14/2013 12:24 PM |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Consciousness arises from the intersection of sense organ and sense object as it crosses through awareness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314 The awareness itself is where you should be focusing, not stuff that comes and goes in it! To me you are describing thought, not consciousness. Consciousness, to me, is within everything. Intuition is consciousness coming through without thought intervening. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Quoting: Septenary Man Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Good post. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/14/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Quoting: Septenary Man Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Good post. Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion God is consciousness. Consciousness is static. Consciousness is the KNOWING of mind. Knowing is static. Quoting: Septenary Man Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Good post. Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. |
4Q529 User ID: 34393682 United States 02/14/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Consciousness arises from the intersection of sense organ and sense object as it crosses through awareness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314 The awareness itself is where you should be focusing, not stuff that comes and goes in it! To me you are describing thought, not consciousness. Consciousness, to me, is within everything. Intuition is consciousness coming through without thought intervening. Precisely. It is important to understand that there are three dimensions of consciousness: 1)the non-dualistic observing consciousness 2)the dualistic consciousness of the "self"; and, 3) the dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'; as explained further at: [link to science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com] Michael |
4Q529 User ID: 34393682 United States 02/14/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion ... Quoting: 4Q529 Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Good post. Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. The consciousness of the 'thinker' is motion. After creating itself, and other than reflecting upon its experiences, the consciousness of the "self" does not move. Any movement is consciousness of the 'thinker'. There is no 'mind' independent of the thought of the 'mind'. Occam's Razor or the Law of Parsimony. There are sensations, perceptions and thoughts; but no 'mind'. Michael Last Edited by 4Q529 on 02/14/2013 12:43 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/14/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion ... Quoting: 4Q529 Much of what you have written is on the right track. But it is not helpful to begin with the use of the term consciousness without explaining what kind of consciousness you are talking about. The consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is the consciousness of non-duality, the consciousness of the Knowledge of Truth, the consciousness that does not move. The 'fallen' consciousness of the "self"--referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"--is the consciousness of duality and of a 'motion' in timelessness; time, at that point, going both backwards and forwards. It is the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' which is the origin of time and motion, with time going only in a forward direction. Reverse Speech Analysis, in which information comes backwards in time from the future, demonstrates the different structures of time for both the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'. Michael Good post. Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. This is where we enter the one mind/no mind. Everything in nothing and nothing in everything. Close your eyes and don't think. How fast we reach for the sides of the infinite abyss with no realization of how far we stretch. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/14/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. The consciousness of the 'thinker' is motion. After creating itself, and other than reflecting upon its experiences, the consciousness of the "self" does not move. Any movement is consciousness of the 'thinker'. There is no 'mind' independent of the thought of the 'mind'. Occam's Razor or the Law of Parsimony. There are sensations, perceptions and thoughts; but no 'mind'. Michael Correction, the conciousness of The Thinker is motion. Our conciousness is an echo within it. We bound. It boundless. Our very own Lucifer. Light in the darkness of the void. |
4Q529 User ID: 34393682 United States 02/14/2013 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion ... Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. The consciousness of the 'thinker' is motion. After creating itself, and other than reflecting upon its experiences, the consciousness of the "self" does not move. Any movement is consciousness of the 'thinker'. There is no 'mind' independent of the thought of the 'mind'. Occam's Razor or the Law of Parsimony. There are sensations, perceptions and thoughts; but no 'mind'. Michael Correction, the conciousness of The Thinker is motion. Our conciousness is an echo within it. Our consciousness? Certainly, you can speak for yourself. But I have knowledge of three dimensions of consciousness, of which the development of the consciousness of the 'thinker' is only the most recent. Long before the consciousness of the 'thinker' even existed, there was the consciousness of the "self"; and, before that, there was (and still is) the observing consciousness. The three dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness exists 'within' the 2 dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness". Michael |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Consciousness arises from the intersection of sense organ and sense object as it crosses through awareness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314 The awareness itself is where you should be focusing, not stuff that comes and goes in it! To me you are describing thought, not consciousness. Consciousness, to me, is within everything. Intuition is consciousness coming through without thought intervening. Precisely. It is important to understand that there are three dimensions of consciousness: 1)the non-dualistic observing consciousness 2)the dualistic consciousness of the "self"; and, 3) the dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'; as explained further at: [link to science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com] Michael Love your thoughts, Michael. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/14/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion ... Quoting: Septenary Man Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. The consciousness of the 'thinker' is motion. After creating itself, and other than reflecting upon its experiences, the consciousness of the "self" does not move. Any movement is consciousness of the 'thinker'. There is no 'mind' independent of the thought of the 'mind'. Occam's Razor or the Law of Parsimony. There are sensations, perceptions and thoughts; but no 'mind'. Michael Correction, the conciousness of The Thinker is motion. Our conciousness is an echo within it. Our consciousness? Certainly, you can speak for yourself. But I have knowledge of three dimensions of consciousness, of which the development of the consciousness of the 'thinker' is only the most recent. Long before the consciousness of the 'thinker' even existed, there was the consciousness of the "self"; and, before that, there was (and still is) the observing consciousness. The three dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness exists 'within' the 2 dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness". Michael That's it? Parsing other we should have 5. I'm figuring we should relatively be able to parse base modifiers to possibly 46656000 in static terms and from there place active and passive elements into the mix and find transitional co ordinates and divergent fixed points to unify fields through basic entanglement if the theories hold true. The thinker is defined as the it which spawned the pattern which we echo within. Dimension is solely that of choices followed. Vegas is the place to go for the math. The aliens fell short of their target. All alien pilots are buddhas. Cheers |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Conciousness is the motion. Mind is within invariable perfection, motionless but infinite. Now, that triggers some other thoughts. Consciousness is the motion in the physical, but static in the non-material. This is mirroring Indra's Net to an extent. This is where we enter the one mind/no mind. Everything in nothing and nothing in everything. Close your eyes and don't think. How fast we reach for the sides of the infinite abyss with no realization of how far we stretch. Yes, I can see that. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion ... Quoting: 4Q529 The consciousness of the 'thinker' is motion. After creating itself, and other than reflecting upon its experiences, the consciousness of the "self" does not move. Any movement is consciousness of the 'thinker'. There is no 'mind' independent of the thought of the 'mind'. Occam's Razor or the Law of Parsimony. There are sensations, perceptions and thoughts; but no 'mind'. Michael Correction, the conciousness of The Thinker is motion. Our conciousness is an echo within it. Our consciousness? Certainly, you can speak for yourself. But I have knowledge of three dimensions of consciousness, of which the development of the consciousness of the 'thinker' is only the most recent. Long before the consciousness of the 'thinker' even existed, there was the consciousness of the "self"; and, before that, there was (and still is) the observing consciousness. The three dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness exists 'within' the 2 dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness". Michael That's it? Parsing other we should have 5. I'm figuring we should relatively be able to parse base modifiers to possibly 46656000 in static terms and from there place active and passive elements into the mix and find transitional co ordinates and divergent fixed points to unify fields through basic entanglement if the theories hold true. The thinker is defined as the it which spawned the pattern which we echo within. Dimension is solely that of choices followed. Vegas is the place to go for the math. The aliens fell short of their target. All alien pilots are buddhas. Cheers |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30272064 United States 02/14/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion You're either shills or really bad at this game. Only liars take the time to explain things... so they might sway your beliefs. Your ego protects you as well as tells you what you need to hear but fact is stranger than fiction and they always do. Your reality isn't only built by perceiving even if you are awake. Don't worry; this was all apart from you. Don't worry; this was all a part from you. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion You're either shills or really bad at this game. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064 Only liars take the time to explain things... so they might sway your beliefs. Your ego protects you as well as tells you what you need to hear but fact is stranger than fiction and they always do. Your reality isn't only built by perceiving even if you are awake. Don't worry; this was all apart from you. Don't worry; this was all a part from you. ...as you try and explain what you are thinking of others. |
4Q529 User ID: 34393682 United States 02/14/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion Only liars take the time to explain things... so they might sway your beliefs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272064 Jesus wasn't a liar. He took the time to explain to the Sadducees that "the resurrection" consisted of the revelation of the memories of previous live. He didn't give a rat's ass about what they believed. He was merely explaining the Truth of the situation, take it or leave it. Michael |
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