The Foundation of the Spiritual Universe is Stillness ~ The Foundation of the Physical Universe is Motion

Semantics.

Yes, some will say we have a beginning to this life, and an end to this life....and can be correct. At the same time, they can be wrong, as we go on 'living' after death.

I was speaking in the broadest sense.

"Loose lips sink ships."

And sloppy words result in people being killed.

There are different sources of thoughts: those from the 'fallen' dualistic consciousness of the "self" or the 'thinker' and those from the non-dualistic dimension of consciousness Created by God.

"As high as the heavens are above the earth are My thoughts above your thoughts..." Chapter 55:9 of the Book of Isaiah.

Michael

You are too entrapped in the experience and too identified with the story lines and the human made definitions of dualism.

Mirror, Mirror

Damn, I really like that.

Don't get your 'that's how you like to take credit anyways' comment.

It was for you! I hoped you would?

Sorry. I try to use your idioms so you conceptualize that much more simply. Sometimes language is harder than others realize.

Would give credit make more sense to you?

I said I'd need currency for real exchange.

I'm still waiting to talk with you about the game.

The one you swear you're not playing. The one you can't lose.

The danger of over analyzing, and trying to overstand everything there is intellectually and with mind is that one disables their ability to actually experience it.

That's okay...you don't have to be.

This is usually what people say when they have no Knowledge of a subject; that it is nothing more than "semantics".

"Semantics" about the Doctrine of "resurrection" got tens of thousands of Albigensians and millions of Jews slaughtered over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism.

If you don't understand the origin of what I am talking about, why not just say that you don't understand or you don't believe, rather than calling it "semantics"?

If you say you don't believe it, fine by me.

But, when you call it "semantics" you are merely magnifying your lack of Knowledge.

Michael

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And too many intelligent words keep you trapped in mind.

...and everyone keeps dreaming their dream. Maybe some do not want to go home because they like it here. Ever heard of free will?

One of the fundamental assumptions of the consciousness of the 'thinker' is that every thought consists of an "analysis", that it is all "intellectual".

From the very get-go, it categorically denies that thoughts can come from anywhere else, from any other dimension of consciousness than the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

What I have written above is not any intellectual analysis, which consists of breaking things down into their component parts by the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

It is the description of a Revelation; and of Knowledge outside of the dimension of the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

Michael

Michael, you have a lot of knowledge.

Me on the other hand, I know that I know nothing.

At the end of the day no matter how smart you think you are you will never be smart enough to undertand GOD. GOD is tobe experienced not explained. The more I learnt about the world around me the more I realised how little I knew. And that goes for spirituality as well. There are some simple rules to follow the rest is just to be experience not controlled or understood. That comes after we leave this world.

Of course I know free will...you simply misunderstand what I mean by home.

Home is a state of being that is actualy who you really are apart from the personality, physicality and altered ego. It is the greatest potential of who you are. And who eveyone is. So there is no question of wether one would want to go home or not. It is simply a truth.

Where do you think my power comes from? I will tap any door there is and this is a farm so I'll keep them open.

I will not crumble. I will walk hand in hand as intended.

Eventually. For now, I'm just a boy who thinks too much...

and dates a psychologist who needs a detailed explanation of things. She wants be of this place and in it. I will respect her wishes.

But I will do everything I can to ensure the world for her is made to fit. I no longer care how many waves I cause by changing the pieces. This version wasn't working for most anyways.

This has yet to be described. Good luck!

I meant to say that under the disclosure that I dont really know anything so what I just said you can disregard if you wish it is just my experience. God Bless

It was for you! I hoped you would?

Sorry. I try to use your idioms so you conceptualize that much more simply. Sometimes language is harder than others realize.

Would give credit make more sense to you?

I said I'd need currency for real exchange.

I'm still waiting to talk with you about the game.

The one you swear you're not playing. The one you can't lose.


I like the way you communicate.

Do I give credit for stuff I post? I try to. But there is so much information, and I have done it before, that it gets repetitive, and many times now, I might just leave it out. The ones that help me 'see' things know this, and I believe they do not mind.

Do I like taking credit for something? I enjoy the dialogue that results from it. I enjoy that people enjoy the work I put together. It makes me feel good that I can help others see things that I have seen, and that I think are amazing. If I had no one to share with, there would not be as much desire to explore this, as I feel the dialogue is what creates the movement of new exploration into fascinating areas of thought.

I do not desire currency for exchange of these thoughts. Matter of fact, I pay for the opportunity to share these thoughts. $10 a month, otherwise I am perma-banned.

About 'the game' you keep mentioning. There are different layers in all of this. If I find someone being a dick and is uninteresting, then I move on. If I find someone being a dick, but is interesting, then I can continue. If you define that as a game, then so be it.

Emphasis is on: Do not try to control or force the experience. Do not try too hard understand either. That may just give you a headache. Just be and enjoy all that is.

The ones who screw up to bad and refuse to correct, may just perish...and not go home. I know what you mean by home.

I have found that in some cases it is good to over-analyze, then drop back and distill the information. Then, experience the distilled portion. After experiencing it, it is embedded, for lack of a better word.

Knowledge is Wisdom without Experience

This is what I love about GLP...so many different takes on things. I agree to disagree with you.

And why should I be worried that people see my lack of knowledge?

I see it as a good thing, as they can help show me the knowledge I am missing if they so wish.

Using the 'Semantics' excuse is a form of laziness more-so than a lack of knowledge, in my opinion. For example, I understood perfectly what you said in the context it was given. But, since you already get it, why should I express to you that I already get it, it being the idea you posted.

I don't really care if people see how stupid I am because of magnifying my lack of knowledge. It doesn't bother me in the least.

That is still a very mental approach and due to seeming exciting can perpetuate indefinitely until you may get tired of it and let it all go.

You seem like a very compassionate being. You have reserved a place in heaven for the Elite. You want everyone to go home with you.

Knowledge is not something that a person has, because there is no 'spatiality of consciousness' to have it.

Knowledge is observed.

It is not a question of having Knowledge or not having Knowledge.

It is a question of seeing or being blind.

People can be taught how to see; but they cannot be taught how to have a Knowledge that cannot be had.

It is like pouring boiling water into a bottle made of ice.

Michael

I like the way you communicate.

Do I give credit for stuff I post? I try to. But there is so much information, and I have done it before, that it gets repetitive, and many times now, I might just leave it out. The ones that help me 'see' things know this, and I believe they do not mind.

Do I like taking credit for something? I enjoy the dialogue that results from it. I enjoy that people enjoy the work I put together. It makes me feel good that I can help others see things that I have seen, and that I think are amazing. If I had no one to share with, there would not be as much desire to explore this, as I feel the dialogue is what creates the movement of new exploration into fascinating areas of thought.

I do not desire currency for exchange of these thoughts. Matter of fact, I pay for the opportunity to share these thoughts. $10 a month, otherwise I am perma-banned.

About 'the game' you keep mentioning. There are different layers in all of this. If I find someone being a dick and is uninteresting, then I move on. If I find someone being a dick, but is interesting, then I can continue. If you define that as a game, then so be it.


You paid in the beginning. I never said you misappropriated credit. I promise I understand your intentions.

The currency I speak of is the information.

I think the bans are cute. I could not afford $10 a month if I wanted to. Not for this.

the game of light before darkness; the game of life before death

You are not scared therefore you may contemplate freely.

Have you settled as to what all this means and what it all could be?

But back to the currency thing; I just meant if you give me shit I'll give you shit. You hand me gold and I'll ask you where it came from, hold it and hand it back to you. I prefer grey clay to yellow.

I do this as much for me as I do for you. You'd be surprised what the ego comes up with unchecked.

I do both. Don't feel like going into it though. Doesn't matter if you realize I do, or do not. It is what it is.