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Does Jesus Return before or after the AntiChrist is Revealed?

 
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He comes after the tribulation as expressed in Matthew 24:29-31. There will be no pre-rapture...

29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

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i think he will be there during the rapture. Hed want to suffer with the humans because he loves them. Coz they are awesome.
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sorry hed want to be there during the tribulation. With people he loves.
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He comes after the tribulation as expressed in Matthew 24:29-31. There will be no pre-rapture...

29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 Quoting: Nobody... 1189609


i think he will be there during the rapture. Hed want to suffer with the humans because he loves them. Coz they are awesome.
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he will be here to allow tribulations to start, or we suffer to awake or he suffers a while and takes away suffering, god works logically, then he completes reason, and we complete on our own...but through the hope he gave us before by showing his light (for some this will be like antchrist)

this to allow the big deception
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why should god keep his word clean ?
he does not need that to be all powerfull,
he needs the deception to play out.
God is more the only good, he is in control of a lot of pain in this world, and he allows it, because of a reason, which is bigger then our pain.

god used the bible for two reasons, to help those in need of help, and to hide a mysterie, that will open a trap so the world can be divided, as israel was divided over two mountains.
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God would keep His Word, clean because: He and His Word are One.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and of truth.

That's why.

God passed the Control of this world to us, and through our Sin, we create the pain, not Him, nor is it in His control.
He has show us the way out, and provided the means to overcome it, but it is our choice.
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this is taking things out of context, the word made flesh is "the arc" = LOGIC that becomes into existence by believes, it is not the bible as many think. these are misinterpretations, still the bible is part of the whole arc and was in existence, because all is always in existence in god, this is why hell ends for people, but in god is always there but forgotten wherre he is free.
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He comes after the tribulation as expressed in Matthew 24:29-31. There will be no pre-rapture...

29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

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i think he will be there during the rapture. Hed want to suffer with the humans because he loves them. Coz they are awesome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23830990


he will be here to allow tribulations to start, or we suffer to awake or he suffers a while and takes away suffering, god works logically, then he completes reason, and we complete on our own...but through the hope he gave us before by showing his light (for some this will be like antchrist)

this to allow the big deception
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No i think he'd want to stay throughout the whole tribulation. Because people would still be here. But i think he'd be human with them.
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keep in mind that god needed the world to suffer many ages, so his structure was hidden, and this is why the holy books have a dual side in them, as to make us belief what we want to belief but still has truth hidden to help the arc of logic complete.
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He comes after the tribulation as expressed in Matthew 24:29-31. There will be no pre-rapture...

29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 Quoting: Nobody... 1189609


i think he will be there during the rapture. Hed want to suffer with the humans because he loves them. Coz they are awesome.
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he will be here to allow tribulations to start, or we suffer to awake or he suffers a while and takes away suffering, god works logically, then he completes reason, and we complete on our own...but through the hope he gave us before by showing his light (for some this will be like antchrist)

this to allow the big deception
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No i think he'd want to stay throughout the whole tribulation. Because people would still be here. But i think he'd be human with them.
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if god is here he will not allow pain in extreme form because his heart is softer then yours and he can not stand pain. he will need to be removed so he can go to a (heaven is mental) (future) place he can not remember pain, or he will stop creation of being fullfilled.
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i think he will be there during the rapture. Hed want to suffer with the humans because he loves them. Coz they are awesome.
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he will be here to allow tribulations to start, or we suffer to awake or he suffers a while and takes away suffering, god works logically, then he completes reason, and we complete on our own...but through the hope he gave us before by showing his light (for some this will be like antchrist)

this to allow the big deception
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No i think he'd want to stay throughout the whole tribulation. Because people would still be here. But i think he'd be human with them.
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if god is here he will not allow pain in extreme form because his heart is softer then yours and he can not stand pain. he will need to be removed so he can go to a (heaven is mental) (future) place he can not remember pain, or he will stop creation of being fullfilled.
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Jesus is not god hes just the son. And i think he would stay with them. I dont think hes going to leave.
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Oh dear . . .
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the son is before dead, jesus as christ is the father as an octopus has many legs god has many faces.
jesus before going to heaven was playing the mirror of logic, a secret hidden in the gospels, and was not the christ yet as completed. the power of hrist does not allow pain to happen on full scale, because he can not see pain in people, he will cry and stop it.
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the son is before dead, jesus as christ is the father as an octopus has many legs god has many faces.
jesus before going to heaven was playing the mirror of logic, a secret hidden in the gospels, and was not the christ yet as completed. the power of hrist does not allow pain to happen on full scale, because he can not see pain in people, he will cry and stop it.
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yeh thats why hes going to stay with them because hell suffer with them. When you love people you dont just up and leave. At least i dont.
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Oh dear . . .
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wut.
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Jesus returns after that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition!

2 Thessalonians 2

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2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Here is a great video exposing Pre Tribulation rapture!

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the son is before dead, jesus as christ is the father as an octopus has many legs god has many faces.
jesus before going to heaven was playing the mirror of logic, a secret hidden in the gospels, and was not the christ yet as completed. the power of hrist does not allow pain to happen on full scale, because he can not see pain in people, he will cry and stop it.
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yeh thats why hes going to stay with them because hell suffer with them. When you love people you dont just up and leave. At least i dont.
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you are sweet but if christ (not jesus, but elijah seal is the coming back) does not suffer before the world does, creation will loose its fullfillment, besides that christ can not allow pain in his sight, christ is not strong to see us suffer christ is the softest heart but he allows it because he also suffers his part, and in god we do it together. if christ stays with the power of god t heal you will not know pain, this is the reason why christ is never here for a long time, because the creation can not be fullfilled where god allows his power to balance out pain. this is the reason why people suffer, to complete reason, and this reason is the word and becomes god in will, like chicken and egg they support on each other.
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Jesus returns after that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition!

2 Thessalonians 2

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2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Here is a great video exposing Pre Tribulation rapture!


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this is the deception, that you should read the deception where it is not, so even the elect (which is not religion but a pure heart) would almost go wrong.
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books Published by the Authorities and placed Free of charge in hotel rooms . . are to be Trusted?
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2 Thess 2:3

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (the coming of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, (atheism will increase) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;(antichrist)

The antichrist comes first.
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Jesus is fake.
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please no cut n paste posts in this thread.

think for yourself, don't be lazy.
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Really no quotes from the Bible?
If you read it you wouldn't need a thread to get an answer.

The return is at the 7th trump, do the math.
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the son is before dead, jesus as christ is the father as an octopus has many legs god has many faces.
jesus before going to heaven was playing the mirror of logic, a secret hidden in the gospels, and was not the christ yet as completed. the power of hrist does not allow pain to happen on full scale, because he can not see pain in people, he will cry and stop it.
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yeh thats why hes going to stay with them because hell suffer with them. When you love people you dont just up and leave. At least i dont.
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you are sweet but if christ (not jesus, but elijah seal is the coming back) does not suffer before the world does, creation will loose its fullfillment, besides that christ can not allow pain in his sight, christ is not strong to see us suffer christ is the softest heart but he allows it because he also suffers his part, and in god we do it together. if christ stays with the power of god t heal you will not know pain, this is the reason why christ is never here for a long time, because the creation can not be fullfilled where god allows his power to balance out pain. this is the reason why people suffer, to complete reason, and this reason is the word and becomes god in will, like chicken and egg they support on each other.
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He can suffer if hes human and there at the time. Trust me on this he aint leaving them. He wouldnt be able to stop it happening if her was human but he aint leaving them to suffer alone. It doesnt invert logic if hes human at the time. If the human race is his bride so to speak, i wouldnt leave my woman to suffer alone. If you cant stop it, then be there with them at the time.
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Some say that Jesus will return at any time. They call this the doctrine of immanency. He comes like a thief in the night.

Other Christians say that Jesus cannot come until that man of sin is revealed and that Jesus returns to the Earth to destroy the antichrist and claim his bride.

Can a Christian clear this up.

Can Jesus come at any time or the appointed time?

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The antichrist spirit is the fallen nature, which we all must be cleansed of by Jesus Christ Blood! Then we become The New Man In Christ! The flesh and the old fallen serpent nature MUST be cleansed by The Blood!
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2 Thess 2:3

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (the coming of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, (atheism will increase) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;(antichrist)

The antichrist comes first.
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another misinterpretation, in this verse the coming is the son of man, which is another thing as the coming of christ as elijah.

the son of men only comes after tribulation, the coming of the spirit happens before or while, a short time.

atheism is not the devil, another misinterpretation. the beast of the land is ignorance = false peace = opposite of the brides that prepare.

god does not kill chinese because they do not know the word jesus.

remember that if you pray to god. god loves his people.
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the son is before dead, jesus as christ is the father as an octopus has many legs god has many faces.
jesus before going to heaven was playing the mirror of logic, a secret hidden in the gospels, and was not the christ yet as completed. the power of hrist does not allow pain to happen on full scale, because he can not see pain in people, he will cry and stop it.
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yeh thats why hes going to stay with them because hell suffer with them. When you love people you dont just up and leave. At least i dont.
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you are sweet but if christ (not jesus, but elijah seal is the coming back) does not suffer before the world does, creation will loose its fullfillment, besides that christ can not allow pain in his sight, christ is not strong to see us suffer christ is the softest heart but he allows it because he also suffers his part, and in god we do it together. if christ stays with the power of god t heal you will not know pain, this is the reason why christ is never here for a long time, because the creation can not be fullfilled where god allows his power to balance out pain. this is the reason why people suffer, to complete reason, and this reason is the word and becomes god in will, like chicken and egg they support on each other.
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He can suffer if hes human and there at the time. Trust me on this he aint leaving them. He wouldnt be able to stop it happening if her was human but he aint leaving them to suffer alone. It doesnt invert logic if hes human at the time. If the human race is his bride so to speak, i wouldnt leave my woman to suffer alone. If you cant stop it, then be there with them at the time.
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someone who has the power to stop pain and does not when he is watching it is more evil then the devil, christ can not stay for long.
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devil in the way we think or thought he is, because in god there is no devil. for this you need to understan judaism and logic. in god is only one power, not two, but he allows another power which has no power, and this name could be "devil" but is non existent, it only exist when we ignore the spirit = growth in love.
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why should god keep his word clean ?
he does not need that to be all powerfull,
he needs the deception to play out.
God is more the only good, he is in control of a lot of pain in this world, and he allows it, because of a reason, which is bigger then our pain.

god used the bible for two reasons, to help those in need of help, and to hide a mysterie, that will open a trap so the world can be divided, as israel was divided over two mountains.
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God would keep His Word, clean because: He and His Word are One.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and of truth.

That's why.

God passed the Control of this world to us, and through our Sin, we create the pain, not Him, nor is it in His control.
He has show us the way out, and provided the means to overcome it, but it is our choice.
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this is taking things out of context, the word made flesh is "the arc" = LOGIC that becomes into existence by believes, it is not the bible as many think. these are misinterpretations, still the bible is part of the whole arc and was in existence, because all is always in existence in god, this is why hell ends for people, but in god is always there but forgotten wherre he is free.
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I can see you are quite deceived, context is based upon the subject matter of the passage. not some other theory.

Your alternate theory of God and Religion is not based upon Historical events or widely accepted "Divine" revelation, thus unlikely.
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devil in the way we think or thought he is, because in god there is no devil. for this you need to understan judaism and logic. in god is only one power, not two, but he allows another power which has no power, and this name could be "devil" but is non existent, it only exist when we ignore the spirit = growth in love.
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I know Judaism and I know logic, this contains little of either.
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Stop waiting on one boogeyman and open your eyes.
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You have provided great posts throughout this thread.

Unfortunately, they will be ignored.

The antichrist is alive and well.

I think that I know who you are "anonymous" lol.

Can you give your incite on Daniel Chapter 7?

We are definitely under the chaotic 4th beast that is unlike any beast before it.
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Your last sentence shows that you're eyes are open..

Lets go into the latter part of Daniel 7 + Revelations:

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Bear with me here..

The TEN HORNS are the European Nations which originally made up the ROMAN EMPIRE: Luxembourg, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, Great Britain, France and Spain

The 3 horns of the original 10 plucked up by the roots would make your NEW Super power: AMERICA (Great Britain, France and Spain).. These are the 3 nations who America were originally made up of.

Got that? Okay.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a GREAT RED DRAGON, having seven heads (7 hills of Rome) and TEN HORNS (European Nations), and seven crowns upon his heads.

Let's go to the 16th verse:

Rev 17:16 And the TEN HORNS (European Nations) which thou sawest upon the BEAST, these shall hate the whore (America), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.


Now.. Why will the 10 horns, or the EUROPEAN nations "hate" the whore? Well first and foremost, America is the whore because all the nations of the Earth USE her to get rich. She was the money maker for everyone.

All people USED to flock to America to make millions when she was in her glory..BUT, those days are looong gone. Remember the "bailout" ? Remember the market collapse a few years ago? See the condition and atmosphere of the country today? Generally speaking, you are SILLY if you think those the glory days are coming back. The only thing you have left to look forward to is another collapse of the market, the collapse of the dollar and everything else that goes with that.

Now, being that the WHORE is dried up, in debt, produces nothing anymore, the jobs are gone etc etc.. The 10 horns and everyone else will burn their assets in America and SOON, start to demonize her.... Using what? The Media.

Take a look at it now, everyone is starting to realize the WHORE is a war mongering, psychopathic nation who only goes around killing and destroying people, EVEN HER OWN PEOPLE (Via GMOs, Chemtrails, Vaccines, rogue Cops, weather warfare etc).

The "bad press" this country gets will only get worse as time goes on. Barack OBAMA was not put in place to "restore America" or "fix the economy".. no, in simple terms, he was put in place to keep the young crowd, the minorities and the rest of the simpletons in place, with "hope" and "change" in their minds.

As for the latter part of Revelation 17:16, she will be burned with Fire... What fire? ... Well, what is main focus in terms of War these days? NUKES.

Now you may ask, "Why would big brother let that happen?" Well how about this:

1) Population reduction (we know they're big on that.)
2) SHE IS DRIED AND USED, produces nothing..there's no use of her any more.
3) So all power can go back to the 10 horns (Revelations 17:12-14).. It will be the 10 horns left standing to make war with the lamb (Christ)

The WHORE will go down, and TPTB will LET it happen. No soon as Israel heats up the war with Iran, they will drag America in, and from there, life as we know it will change.

Those of you who think hiding out in some bunker or in the mountains will save you, are out of your minds. Hope you all have passports, at least to live another day.


PS: I highly suggest watching

FROM BABYLON, TO ROME, TO AMERICA
[link to www.youtube.com]

It's 3 hours long BUT YOUR EYES WILL BE OPENED if they aren't already. Peace and blessings to all!
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conect comes from the whole, not only from passage.
judaism does not knowthe christian devil.
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i meant "context" anyway i have to go now. you do not have to believe me, i try to prepare because i can not accept yet what will have to be allowed. i try to help people. love.
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yeh thats why hes going to stay with them because hell suffer with them. When you love people you dont just up and leave. At least i dont.
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you are sweet but if christ (not jesus, but elijah seal is the coming back) does not suffer before the world does, creation will loose its fullfillment, besides that christ can not allow pain in his sight, christ is not strong to see us suffer christ is the softest heart but he allows it because he also suffers his part, and in god we do it together. if christ stays with the power of god t heal you will not know pain, this is the reason why christ is never here for a long time, because the creation can not be fullfilled where god allows his power to balance out pain. this is the reason why people suffer, to complete reason, and this reason is the word and becomes god in will, like chicken and egg they support on each other.
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He can suffer if hes human and there at the time. Trust me on this he aint leaving them. He wouldnt be able to stop it happening if her was human but he aint leaving them to suffer alone. It doesnt invert logic if hes human at the time. If the human race is his bride so to speak, i wouldnt leave my woman to suffer alone. If you cant stop it, then be there with them at the time.
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someone who has the power to stop pain and does not when he is watching it is more evil then the devil, christ can not stay for long.
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hed experience it with them.
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Re: Does Jesus Return before or after the AntiChrist is Revealed?
Jesus is fake.
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hes so fake hed kick ur ass

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