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Does Jesus Return before or after the AntiChrist is Revealed?

 
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And remember what the Chief said,

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Now, I am not a fan of ANY religion in this Earth, but who comes in the name of CHRIST? You should look at THEM for the biggest deception...

It's not the Muslims, It's not the Buddhist, it's not the Hindus or even satanist, ITS THE CHRISTIANS.

Modern day Christianity promoted Anti-Christ teachings! From the "law is done away with" doctrine, to the holidays, Sunday worship, virgin birth nonsense, the trinity, ash wednesday, Easter .. I mean the list goes on and on.. all of that is Against the truth of Christ and the Bible.

Modern day Christianity was hi-jacked by Constanstine in the 4th Century and fused pagan doctrine with the NAME of Christ.

Its really easy folks. Start reading your bible and stop listening to what man has to say.
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I think this post is all true except for 1 thing, well,2 actually.
1. Calling the above "Christianity", when there is a real Christianity outlined in the Bible, and followed by the 1st century Christians, and also today by a united, worldwide congregation.
2."Law done away with" Jesus said he "came to fulfill the law". Not only was he the first and last to keep the law perfectly, but he was the reason for the Law Covenant in the first place. The Law "was the tutor, leading to Christ", and served as a "fence" around the Abrahamic descendants through whom the promised seed, the Messiah, was to come. After the Messiah, Jesus Christ, did arrive and got murdered in the usual manner for prophets of the true God-
-New Living Translation (©2007)
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me."-
-the purpose of the law was fulfilled , and the temple genealogies -proving Jesus both legal and natural descendant of David- and the whole Jewish system was destroyed, 70 CE.
"That which restrains", then existing, was 'the apostles'.
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Morals are doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right.

Religion is nothing more than another control mechanism by the "elite". It is a book of rules that was written by men claiming to have contact with the creator of the multiverse. It is a fear campaign that tricks people into believing it because if they dont they will burn in hell by gods arch nemesis who he created but cant figure out how to stop him from enslaving our souls... you are the epitome of sheep...
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I think this post is all true except for 1 thing, well,2 actually.
1. Calling the above "Christianity", when there is a real Christianity outlined in the Bible, and followed by the 1st century Christians, and also today by a united, worldwide congregation.


2."Law done away with" Jesus said he "came to fulfill the law". Not only was he the first and last to keep the law perfectly, but he was the reason for the Law Covenant in the first place. The Law "was the tutor, leading to Christ", and served as a "fence" around the Abrahamic descendants through whom the promised seed, the Messiah, was to come. After the Messiah, Jesus Christ, did arrive and got murdered in the usual manner for prophets of the true God-


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I know there is a real Christianity. Following the laws and the commandments of God is the real 'christianity'. Why do I say that?

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

As we all know, the disciples are Israelites, and they kept the laws of God. They were called "christians" because the Romans didn't know what to call those who followed the Christ (not all the jews did), so they labeled them "Christians."

After the death of Christ, the spirit of Christ was so vast and was working on a high level to awaken people, so Constantine fused his paganism and the name of Christ to give us the modern day Christianity we have today.. Which is upheld by the Roman Catholic church doctrine.

As for your "united... congregation" thing I have no idea what you're talking about. That's not in scripture

Christ came to fulfill the law, yes, I agree.. But he didn't come to say the law was "done away with." You dont understand scripture if you believe that.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.


The Earth is still here: CHECK
The Heavens are still here: CHECK

Christ nailed the DEATH PENALTY to the Cross, so now you have Grace, but not grace to sin.

Rom 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law (Law of DEATH), but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Grace is not an excuse to sin. Use grace to do your best to keep the law.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The law is good, my friend. Try your best to keep it.


And remember what Christ says:

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

If you teach men to break Gods commandments, you will be called the least in Heaven, but if you teach men to keep them you will be called great.

Peace.
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This is us in heaven after the rapture in Revelation 7:9-17. We're the large innumerable multitude of all nations and languages. The rapture & tribulation (daniel's 70th week) begin at the 6th seal . We are on the precipice of the 6th seal when tSHTF any day now. The 6th seal will open when God's fury comes up in his face at seeing Israel's enemies surrounding her. (Psm17,ezek38,isa13)

Look for All these events to take place in spring,Suddenly&Simultaneously.
Maybe march21 -April 2 ?

Song of Soloman 2:10-13 =rapture
 Quoting: Morganite


According to Chapter 12, verse 9 of the Book of Daniel, "these words"--that is, the Book of Daniel itself--"will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End."

And, according to Revelations 5:3-10, the only person capable of explaining the Revelation of John is the "Son of man".

So, none of what you have written above is even believable.

Michael
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1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

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Wow, it's like the dark ages in here.
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And remember what the Chief said,

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Now, I am not a fan of ANY religion in this Earth, but who comes in the name of CHRIST? You should look at THEM for the biggest deception...

It's not the Muslims, It's not the Buddhist, it's not the Hindus or even satanist, ITS THE CHRISTIANS.

Modern day Christianity promoted Anti-Christ teachings! From the "law is done away with" doctrine, to the holidays, Sunday worship, virgin birth nonsense, the trinity, ash wednesday, Easter .. I mean the list goes on and on.. all of that is Against the truth of Christ and the Bible.

Modern day Christianity was hi-jacked by Constanstine in the 4th Century and fused pagan doctrine with the NAME of Christ.

Its really easy folks. Start reading your bible and stop listening to what man has to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130092


I think this post is all true except for 1 thing, well,2 actually.
1. Calling the above "Christianity", when there is a real Christianity outlined in the Bible, and followed by the 1st century Christians, and also today by a united, worldwide congregation.
2."Law done away with" Jesus said he "came to fulfill the law". Not only was he the first and last to keep the law perfectly, but he was the reason for the Law Covenant in the first place. The Law "was the tutor, leading to Christ", and served as a "fence" around the Abrahamic descendants through whom the promised seed, the Messiah, was to come. After the Messiah, Jesus Christ, did arrive and got murdered in the usual manner for prophets of the true God-
-New Living Translation (©2007)
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me."-
-the purpose of the law was fulfilled , and the temple genealogies -proving Jesus both legal and natural descendant of David- and the whole Jewish system was destroyed, 70 CE.
"That which restrains", then existing, was 'the apostles'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311



you said, "As for your "united... congregation" thing I have no idea what you're talking about. That's not in scripture-"

But Bible says-
“Now I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.” – 1 Corinthians 1:10

Zephaniah 3:9 For then I shall give to peoples the change to a pure language,*+ in order for them all to call upon the name of Jehovah,+ in order to serve him shoulder to
shoulder.’*

Ephesians 3:14 On account of this I bend my knees+ to the Father,+ 15 to whom every family+ in heaven and on earth owes its name,+

‘I entreat you to observe the oneness of the spirit.’—EPH. 4:1, 3.

Gen. 1:28 Further, God blessed+ them and God said to them: “Be fruitful+ and become many and fill the earth and subdue+ it, and have in subjection+ the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving* upon the earth.”
Isaiah 18 For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens,+ He the [true] God,+ the Former of the earth and the Maker of it,+ He the One who firmly established it,+ who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited:+ “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.+

Eph.18 This he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom+ and good sense, 9 in that* he made known to us the sacred secret+ of his will. It is according to his good pleasure which he purposed in himself+ 10 for an administration*+ at the full limit of the appointed times,+ namely, to gather+ all things together again* in the Christ,+ the things in the heavens+ and the things on the earth.+ [Yes,] in him,

Heb. 10: 24 And let us consider one another to incite+ to love and fine works,+ 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together,+ as some have the custom, but encouraging+ one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near.+

Here- [link to wol.jw.org] - I respectfully suggest you might want read it for yourself, because there are so many scriptures in support of this, that I'm worn out from trying to post them all.


You said-
"Christ came to fulfill the law, yes, I agree.. But he didn't come to say the law was "done away with." You dont understand scripture if you believe that.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

I ask, didn't Jesus succeed in what he came for?

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Again I ask, didn't Jesus succeed in what he came for?
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You're asking for a "christian" to clear up a book about the Hebrews? Seriously?

Anyway. If you don't know who the Anti-Christ is already, you'll never find out.

Any one who opposes the truth of Christ is an "Anti-Christ"

- That includes Modern day Christianity and their paganism (cant prove to me otherwise)
- The Roman Catholic Church
- Zionist
- All governments who don't follow the truth of Christ

etc etc


Read this:

"It was well known at this time in history that the upholders of Satan's Antichrist teachings were the Roman Catholic Church. It was also well understood that the Antichrist spoken of in the Bible was a governmental structure opposed to one man.

This is what set the stage for the Roman Catholic Church to bring forth one of the biggest doctrines to influence modern day Christianity. As a result of this, many people started removing themselves from the Roman Catholic faith.

During the year 1585, Jesuit General and founder of the Jesuit Order, Ignatius Loyola, sent forth a decree to fellow Jesuit Francisco Ribera to compose a 500 page commentary of Revelations.


This entire commentary was written in Latin and was titled: In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij. Within this 500 page commentary, Ribera was instructed to push the following ideas:

- The Antichrist is one man opposed to a government structure.
- The Antichrist would build a temple in Jerusalem
- The Antichrist will abolish Christianity and make a covenant with the Jews
- The Antichrist will call himself God
- The Antichrist will not be revealed until 7 years before Christ returns
- The Antichrist will conquer the world
- The Christians or the "Church" will be raptured into heaven before the Antichrist appears"

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29130092


Is this hmm "leaked" information from - or an "accidental" revealing of these sacred commentary documents?

I am sure they did not like the public to be informed that the Jesuites really are behind any of our ideas about the end time scenarios.

It is obviously someone behind a deliberate attempt to make us doubt the end time scenario clearly spoken of in the Bible.

So it means that the above list is the real truth that they want us not to believe.

Because they have a plan to make us become afraid to get caught up into the air to prevent them of being saved of course.

Their explanation for the rapture after the event, will be that they are taken up by evil aliens.

The building of the temple will really be by the Antichrist. But they want those remaining here then that it is the Jewish Messiah that builds the temple for the 1000 years reign of Christ.

So now I am really even more safe as to what is their agenda.

Thank you.
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