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Digital Deception; Can You Trust What You See?

 
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Digital Deception; Can You Trust What You See?
we've known at least since 911 that TV fakery exists.

much of the MSM news is not only controlled but compromised.
lets not forget of late the anderson cooper nose vaporization
Thread: Anderson Cooper Disappearing Nose and Unedited Sound Clicks from editing

how much of it and to what lengths and extent are we expcted to accept as truth?


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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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02/14/2013 01:24 PM
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
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Definitely true.

Iwo jima was shooped for gods sake!

People don't realize how easy it is to make alterations in a digital world.
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02/14/2013 01:25 PM
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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
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No shilling, and no its not expensive at all.

With your own CS5.5 licence, you can get away with a lot.
For every negativity, create two positives!

~For wolf and moon


Part of a pack one wolf chose to leave
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On his own in the dark the wolf could not see
Nobody was telling him what to believe

When he questioned what truly made him free
It was always the moonlight guiding thee

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The sheep may one day find, there was always a wolf inside.

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digital aside, can you trust what you even see with your human eyes? people think they can, but the fact is, you actually can't.
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Hence as to why the big push to all digital tv.
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I try to remember that when I pass on information that it is just "I heard this from this source or read this at this place" it is never this happened, or this is, because we really don't know'

I believe people get tripped up "believing" what they read or see on the News is true, again like the previous poster wrote "take everything with a grain of salt".

I think in terms of logic, that things might be true if there is a good reason, or that they might not be true if they just don't make sense.

I never watch MSM news on TV, to me it is as bad as listening to a speech by a President that he didn't write.
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there is no longer anyway to distinguish between fact or fiction.

between truth or lie.
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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
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Love that avatar Darth has had it ! He,s lighten up a smoke! Its best one Ive seen!
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There was a video posted today of a kid doing 110k/h down a street on a skateboard in South Africa. The articles said the pigs wanted to use the youtube clip he posted to charge him with speeding, except that South African law prohibits using video that could possibly have been tampered with.

Pretty neat law actually. I was surprised it existed anywhere. It shows that at least somebody recognizes the ease with which modern technology can alter photo and video for a frame up job.
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I concur OP , I only believe what I see with my own eyes ! The U.S. and the world is being steered right off a cliff ! Everything is theatre! Except GLP lol rockon
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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
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So that would mean that since the general population believes that Sandy Hook was real and not done by our govt, that that is the case. Interesting.
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There was a Faux News page boy posting a few weeks back. Or so he said.

When confronted with the question if he new what the military is doing in our news rooms. No reply.

There were a number of on air Physical body seizures or complete dumbstruck events related to newscasters at time of heavy military presence in the News rooms.
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So if the MSM is faked , what would we class as trustworthy news sources ?

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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
 Quoting: Oyster




So that would mean that since the general population believes that Sandy Hook was real and not done by our govt, that that is the case. Interesting.
 Quoting: Rob83


you and i might know the truth.

but if the general population believes the official story then decades down the line the offical story is the reality.
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take anything and everything you see or hear with a grain of salt.

also, accept that whatever the general population believes to be true is the reality of things.
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Love that avatar Darth has had it ! He,s lighten up a smoke! Its best one Ive seen!
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thanks.

and thanks Dr. Acula.
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I was watching Fox news a few weeks ago, and one of the guests (who used to work at Fox) looked back at the "newsroom" behind him and chuckled, while pointing out that one of the guys back there got fired a few years ago and they should update the "newsroom."

Just goes to show even the relatively simple things are all fake.
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It's the simplest form of geometry - 1s & 0s

Geometry is not sacred but only a Map for MANufacture

Mapping/Cloning/Altering is easy : Creation is different

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Since when did you get into tv fakery, Phennommennonn?

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I was a guest on a Fox morning show in 2009 to speak with a psychic/medium about my paranormal experiences and the producers tried to get me to change my true events into false stories. I agreed with them until I was on live camera and told the truth. MSM are insane.
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HOLLY WORLD...... Not.....HOLLY WOOD....

.......It's all make believe.......
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What surprises me is that this "fakery" is legal. I was told on here that that couple who outed Monsanto lost their case against Fox etc. Sorry no link.
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I was a guest on a Fox morning show in 2009 to speak with a psychic/medium about my paranormal experiences and the producers tried to get me to change my true events into false stories. I agreed with them until I was on live camera and told the truth. MSM are insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1652532

interesting.
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there is no longer anyway to distinguish between fact or fiction.

between truth or lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


exactly. sandy hook itself was just another political mind fuck
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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I was a guest on a Fox morning show in 2009 to speak with a psychic/medium about my paranormal experiences and the producers tried to get me to change my true events into false stories. I agreed with them until I was on live camera and told the truth. MSM are insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1652532


What did they say / do to you when you went with your true version?
What did they want you to change them to?
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


enter the movie SIMONE /al pacino
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The Queen Of Mean / VENOMmennonn

*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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Visit The Official GLP Store
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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abduct
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What surprises me is that this "fakery" is legal. I was told on here that that couple who outed Monsanto lost their case against Fox etc. Sorry no link.
 Quoting: allisaTX


Hi Allisa.

Here you go.
[link to www.foxbghsuit.com]

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]
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I work in that business and would doubt there is that much fake(ry) at all. It would cost wayyyy too much money imho.
Shill me if you must but I have 22 years in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


enter the movie SIMONE /al pacino
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Thanks for the thread!!

Yep, and didn't this go down in real life in Japan.
They created a rock star/TV celeb who was only a sim.

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