How Many MINIMUM WAGE Hours Does it Take to Afford an Apartment in Your State? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/14/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm late to the party on this thread, but there's so many variables. I do agree, it's very tough to live on minimum wage. Quoting: TeChNoXiC® I'm in Arkansas - state minimum wage is $6.25, however the federal is $7.25. Not sure about other states, but here, the federal rate overrides the state wage...therefore, it's $7.25/hr here. Now, in my area, a person can acquire a one bedroom apartment for about $350/month. Doing the math right there, it's about 48 hrs of work to be able to make rent. That's not factoring in whether a person could potentially increase their ability with OT hrs. To me, if a person can pay their rent with one week's pay, they are living within their means. Again, that's just for a single person, and whether they have kids or not, debt, personal issues, etc only stacks onto the equation. Mind you, the $350/month apartment mentioned above is small, possibly way lower than average, and would most definitely not accommodate a single person with kids. Kids can have the bedroom while the parent sleeps on a fold out bed in the living room. Before that would happen though the parent would probably have state assistance for at least a two bedroom with food stamps and all medical paid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34185842 United States 02/14/2013 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ BETWEEN THE LINES All this does is create more under the table jobs for Illegals to get and in turn vote for the Dems. People are so small pictured. Do you really believe that TPTB give a rats ass where you sleep let alone if you can afford it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/14/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ BETWEEN THE LINES Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34185842 All this does is create more under the table jobs for Illegals to get and in turn vote for the Dems. People are so small pictured. Do you really believe that TPTB give a rats ass where you sleep let alone if you can afford it? Really, why should they? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33931923 United States 02/14/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just wait til next year when 25% of your disposable income starts going for Obamacare, minimum wage or not. You blame the businesses when it is actually the government fucking them and you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931923 But it was supposed to be free, and save us trillions of dollars!!!! Its only free for those who already don't work and already get free care on someone else's dime. If you work and earn a wag, you will be required to pay something, comes right out of your disposable income. |
Awake User ID: 3936560 United States 02/14/2013 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey AC, Quoting: MuzzleBreak The rent is per month, so the hours would be per month also, not per week. Two or three people working minimum wage jobs could easily share a 2 bedroom apt. If you're wanting to live like the wealthy while doing a job that any teenager could do, it's not gonna happen. You forget that you have to make three times the rent amount to even get an apt these days. |
Vast Deferens User ID: 17509594 United States 02/14/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New Hampshire Min wage full time job = $1160/month My 2 bedroom apartment (admittedly cheaper than some) = $695/Month. Hours per month at min wage to afford: 95.862 Site lists: 106 hours/wk or $3074 per month. I have not seen an apartment going for this rate. So if 2 people work there would $1625 left over after rent per month. Of course this doesn't factor in taxes. Water is included in the apartment, and though heat and electricity are not included, this situation would likely qualify for some kind of fuel assistance program for winter. If a kid was involved, there could be up to $200 in food stamps per month as well, more for additional kids. The only people holed up 10 to a 2 bedroom here are the Nepalese immigrants when they first get here. After 6 months or so it's just to a single family because they all get jobs, cars, and their own apartments. I mean, I know times are hard for people and the system is rigged to keep the masses down, but gross exaggerations like this site discredit "the cause". Hosea 2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts; 2:3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34185842 United States 02/14/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ BETWEEN THE LINES Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34185842 All this does is create more under the table jobs for Illegals to get and in turn vote for the Dems. People are so small pictured. Do you really believe that TPTB give a rats ass where you sleep let alone if you can afford it? Really, why should they? Why should they what? give a shit? they dont. Juan and his twelve cousins living in a single family home are perfectly happy with $5 cash an hour and all the freebies the Government throws in. they got it made and still send money home to Mexico. This is the rule NOT the exception, and you better wake up to it FAST |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/14/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ BETWEEN THE LINES Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34185842 All this does is create more under the table jobs for Illegals to get and in turn vote for the Dems. People are so small pictured. Do you really believe that TPTB give a rats ass where you sleep let alone if you can afford it? Really, why should they? Why should they what? give a shit? they dont. Juan and his twelve cousins living in a single family home are perfectly happy with $5 cash an hour and all the freebies the Government throws in. they got it made and still send money home to Mexico. This is the rule NOT the exception, and you better wake up to it FAST I already know that. This whole world system is on its last leg. I am really not surprised at anything anymore. These leaders are too greedy and evil to keep things going. There is going to be a change soon because it can't and won't keep going on this way forever. |
Daughter of the Revolution User ID: 2636202 United States 02/14/2013 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I make $11.50 an hour - Quoting: Diluted 5663641 That's about $460 a week - Rent, in FL, for a 1 Bedroom is $700ish a month. So obviously, I'd need a roommate or "sublent" a room - So at $1,8000 a month $1,800 - 500 (for rent, mind you, this is me renting a room - so when I move out soon it'll be higher...) $1,300 -100 (car insurance) $1,200 -200 (gas for the month) $1,000 -300 (food for the month) $700 -$50 (cell phone) $650. I'm left with about $600 a month to play with.... Throw in a flat tire, or shopping for new clothes, or taking a girl out to dinner - and I'm one of those 1/4 Americans who live "paycheck to paycheck" GOD BLESS THE USA! Um, you forgot the ~40-50% in taxes and other deductions that come right off the top of that little paycheck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34185842 United States 02/14/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | READ BETWEEN THE LINES Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34185842 All this does is create more under the table jobs for Illegals to get and in turn vote for the Dems. People are so small pictured. Do you really believe that TPTB give a rats ass where you sleep let alone if you can afford it? Really, why should they? Why should they what? give a shit? they dont. Juan and his twelve cousins living in a single family home are perfectly happy with $5 cash an hour and all the freebies the Government throws in. they got it made and still send money home to Mexico. This is the rule NOT the exception, and you better wake up to it FAST I already know that. This whole world system is on its last leg. I am really not surprised at anything anymore. These leaders are too greedy and evil to keep things going. There is going to be a change soon because it can't and won't keep going on this way forever. Sadly I dont think that the human race will survive it! Its like exponential growth as the snowball rolls down hill it just keeps getting bigger until it falls apart under its own weight. the end |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19320175 United States 02/14/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're always posting during the work-day... Why do I have a funny feeling you're collecting SSI, disability, or some sort of a "Oh I injured my self..." and live on a fixed income? Cause I'm the boss She's the boss! [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34350905 02/14/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're a brainwashed hack preying on the fools who revere you. Trust me, you're one of the most renown laughing stocks of the whole forum. I've even seen people trashing you on other forums. Keep posting in this thread, though, you lend the OP even greater credence.... Brief, you are a total dick, there are youtube vids made about you. A rightwing braindead sheep who bullshits about his family and past. sorry, but some one doxed you along time ago. |
Daughter of the Revolution User ID: 2636202 United States 02/14/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New Hampshire Quoting: Vast Deferens Min wage full time job = $1160/month My 2 bedroom apartment (admittedly cheaper than some) = $695/Month. Hours per month at min wage to afford: 95.862 Site lists: 106 hours/wk or $3074 per month. I have not seen an apartment going for this rate. So if 2 people work there would $1625 left over after rent per month. Of course this doesn't factor in taxes. Water is included in the apartment, and though heat and electricity are not included, this situation would likely qualify for some kind of fuel assistance program for winter. If a kid was involved, there could be up to $200 in food stamps per month as well, more for additional kids. The only people holed up 10 to a 2 bedroom here are the Nepalese immigrants when they first get here. After 6 months or so it's just to a single family because they all get jobs, cars, and their own apartments. I mean, I know times are hard for people and the system is rigged to keep the masses down, but gross exaggerations like this site discredit "the cause". I don't know a single landlord who wouldn't toss you right out of an apartment, or charge you MORE MONEY, if you bring in more than the number of tenants contracted for in the lease. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34350905 02/14/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Minimum wage is just a starting point for teenagers and people just entering the workforce or the retired as a hobby, it is NOT designed as a career choice. Quoting: BRIEF Adjusted for inflation from 1960 til now minimum wage should be $16/hr. So what was good for teenagers in 1960 is good as a minimum wage today. So yes you are correct. But it doesn't change a thing. I seem to see countries that are raising their wages have higher growth. Australia, Canada, China. And countries that have stagnant wages having stagnant growth. United States, United Kingdom, Germany And countries that have shrinking wages in recession. Portugal, Spain, Greece. Any way you slice it. I'm right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/14/2013 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should they what? give a shit? they dont. Juan and his twelve cousins living in a single family home are perfectly happy with $5 cash an hour and all the freebies the Government throws in. they got it made and still send money home to Mexico. This is the rule NOT the exception, and you better wake up to it FAST I already know that. This whole world system is on its last leg. I am really not surprised at anything anymore. These leaders are too greedy and evil to keep things going. There is going to be a change soon because it can't and won't keep going on this way forever. Sadly I dont think that the human race will survive it! Its like exponential growth as the snowball rolls down hill it just keeps getting bigger until it falls apart under its own weight. the end Yeah, you are probably right unless, as some people believe, that God saves the day. I am really thinking only supernatural help is going to get us through this. Because it is really apparent that these so called leaders are trying to ruin everything and enslave the masses or kill them off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 02/14/2013 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Minimum wage is just a starting point for teenagers and people just entering the workforce or the retired as a hobby, it is NOT designed as a career choice. Quoting: BRIEF Adjusted for inflation from 1960 til now minimum wage should be $16/hr. So what was good for teenagers in 1960 is good as a minimum wage today. So yes you are correct. But it doesn't change a thing. I seem to see countries that are raising their wages have higher growth. Australia, Canada, China. And countries that have stagnant wages having stagnant growth. United States, United Kingdom, Germany And countries that have shrinking wages in recession. Portugal, Spain, Greece. Any way you slice it. I'm right. This has got to be by design. If we know what raising the minimum wage will do(raise prices and cause more layoffs) then you have to know Obama knows this too. And he only has a short time to do this in. But then he is just a figure head for TPTB. What have they got up their sleeves for us? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33432712 United States 02/14/2013 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey AC, Quoting: MuzzleBreak The rent is per month, so the hours would be per month also, not per week. Two or three people working minimum wage jobs could easily share a 2 bedroom apt. If you're wanting to live like the wealthy while doing a job that any teenager could do, it's not gonna happen. Living with a decent roof over your head and food on the table shouldn't be considered something only of the wealthy... Minimum wage has not kept up with inflation for the last 40 years. Prices will go up whether minimum wage goes up or not, so there's really no strong argument against it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7715788 Canada 02/14/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Show what your worth. You are only getting back what you put in. Move on and get your shit going and you can make more on your own. Just because they say there is no work.....it can be found and good money can be made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 02/14/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a lot of people dramatizing sociopathy on this site. There's a lot of "I'm alright Jack..." attitude toward those who are apparently too "stupid", "retarded" or "lazy" to improve themselves and rise above minimum wage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33421829 The fact is that many people cannot - they are too physically or mentally sick or traumatized. And the thing is that its often the case that they were put in that condition on purpose by the actions of the controllers of society. Just to take one example, autism has skyrocketed over the last couple decades. And its no accident. Do you have moral contempt for people who are autistic,schizophrenic,functionally retarded,chronically fatigued,etc? Be careful of playing the spiritual Darwinist - because the day is coming, it seems, where it will be decided that your services are also no longer required. And you'll have no moral ground to protest your own genocide. Then you will be one of the ones who was too stupid or weak to survive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23657849 United States 02/14/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact is, you guys can list a million reasons why people might be in a troubled situation. That's actually a good point. The point being EVERYONE has troubles. EVERYONE has problems in this life. There are no guarantees in life, the best that can be done, what most people want, is to have the government leave them alone, and let them pave their own way. No guarantees of equal results. That's impossible Quoting: Brevet Excellent!!!!! Oh bullshit. No offense intended, but what may be "troubles" for some might be only a fart in the wind for others. I bet you could find many people with severe troubles willing to trade places with some of you fart in the winders sitting nice and cush and comfortable right now where you are at. Just pointing out the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34424138 Mexico 02/14/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im just curious you are on this site all the time day or night what do you do for a living? He/she? just thinks its superior base on his superiority ;) ROFLMAO. Brief.... of mind I would say ;), always hazing/harassing others as a projection of how much he does not like himself, Jungian psychology for dummines Brief... of mind, shadow chapter ;) that's mean You are correct, Ill take it back, I dont know brief and even if I know him/her? that is rude to say, so sorry brief. However, gentlemen and ladies, there is REAL trouble coming on the horizon as in weeks and here we are discussing why someone merits making more than others base on external conditions, when the problems humanity will face for sure will make it more than OBVIOUS that the faith of the planet and all in its is connected like most dont/cant see. So be safe and be smart :). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33130922 Canada 02/14/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is all this whining about minimum wage? You are fortunate that someone wants to employ you, particularly in an economy where the President keeps doling out wads of dough to bankers and keeps carpet bombing industry with taxes and all the future generations with whacking great debt bills. Look, minimum wage is just a slap in the face fo employers and a socialist scam to export all the jobs to their pals in Commie Red China. If the US is to climb out of recessio, the routwe is obvious:- - Ban importation of all goods from Red China. - Scrap the minimum wage. - Stop all welfare. - Scrap food stamps. |