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Why do BAD People always find GOD ?

 
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murders and rapists are shaped and formed since their childhood by god.
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So are you saying GOD himself is a murderer and rapist therefore he tailors them after his own image.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Please go read your Bible. God IS a murderer. He commanded people to kill babies and little children. He made his warriors take all the virgin women as spoils so they could rape them. He commanded those same warriors to kill all people who worshiped other gods. He told people they had to kill their rebellious children. He killed millions of people, most of them innocent, in the Bible. He killed all the first born babies of Egypt. Why did he do this? Oh, he WANTED to. He decided to blind the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. The Pharaoh had no choice in the matter. So then God went about killing babies, except for the Jewish babies, and he spared them because they smeared lamb's blood on their doors. Does this sound like a sick and demented God to you? IF not, you need help.
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I knew you your going there. But I just wanted to verify it.
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Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Jesus did not come to preach to the well but to the sick.

A pastor of mine put it like this, "If God has to put you flat on your back before you will look up at Him, He will." ~ Rick Warren

A song that Leonard Cohen sang went something like this... When Jesus found out that only drowning men could be saved he became a sailor.
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lolatu Jesus was a carpenter.
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murders and rapists are shaped and formed since their childhood by god.
 Quoting: icepack


So are you saying GOD himself is a murderer and rapist therefore he tailors them after his own image.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Please go read your Bible. God IS a murderer. He commanded people to kill babies and little children. He made his warriors take all the virgin women as spoils so they could rape them. He commanded those same warriors to kill all people who worshiped other gods. He told people they had to kill their rebellious children. He killed millions of people, most of them innocent, in the Bible. He killed all the first born babies of Egypt. Why did he do this? Oh, he WANTED to. He decided to blind the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. The Pharaoh had no choice in the matter. So then God went about killing babies, except for the Jewish babies, and he spared them because they smeared lamb's blood on their doors. Does this sound like a sick and demented God to you? IF not, you need help.
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I knew you your going there. But I just wanted to verify it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS

Excuse me?? I knew (you) your (do you mean You're such as you are) and what in the fuck are you talking about? I just didn't get what you said. Can you explain a little more so that I can respond?
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the answer is in almost every book of the new testament. it's the most basic understanding of the christian faith. how can you not be aware of it?
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Riddle me this! how can that be right?
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We are in and Of the Realm of the Beasts.

The Spirit of Evil will always demand satisfaction.

Wisdom comes from Denial of appetites

Water the Gift of Soul

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the answer is in almost every book of the new testament. it's the most basic understanding of the christian faith. how can you not be aware of it?
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Riddle me this! how can that be right?
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Riddle me this!! What does: "I know you your going there" mean????
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Simple really... because there is NO way not to. everyone realizes it soon or later, some quicker than others, especially if they feel they are not being their true self. It is a built in compass for the soul.hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Good answer.
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Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil

The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates

That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton
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Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Good moral people AND WHO WOULD THOSE BE???
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So are you saying GOD himself is a murderer and rapist therefore he tailors them after his own image.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Please go read your Bible. God IS a murderer. He commanded people to kill babies and little children. He made his warriors take all the virgin women as spoils so they could rape them. He commanded those same warriors to kill all people who worshiped other gods. He told people they had to kill their rebellious children. He killed millions of people, most of them innocent, in the Bible. He killed all the first born babies of Egypt. Why did he do this? Oh, he WANTED to. He decided to blind the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. The Pharaoh had no choice in the matter. So then God went about killing babies, except for the Jewish babies, and he spared them because they smeared lamb's blood on their doors. Does this sound like a sick and demented God to you? IF not, you need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


I knew you your going there. But I just wanted to verify it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS

Excuse me?? I knew (you) your (do you mean You're such as you are) and what in the fuck are you talking about? I just didn't get what you said. Can you explain a little more so that I can respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Okeydokey, I figured that your response would be the violent nature of the bible. I get it. (you're) not getting a disagreement from me on anything you said. Just wanted to confirm your knowledge. that's it.
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We are in and Of the Realm of the Beasts.

The Spirit of Evil will always demand satisfaction.

Wisdom comes from Denial of appetites

Water the Gift of Soul

In-Sight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34399071

Doesn't sound so much like insight but more like brainwashing. Where are these spirits you are talking about? Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary?

And evil spirits (demons) don't really exist. They thought so in Bible days but have since discovered that people can suffer from mental illness.

So what appetites do you deny? Gee, you must weigh under 60 pounds? What do you deny yourself exactly? Please tell us so that we can be like you?
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

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Please go read your Bible. God IS a murderer. He commanded people to kill babies and little children. He made his warriors take all the virgin women as spoils so they could rape them. He commanded those same warriors to kill all people who worshiped other gods. He told people they had to kill their rebellious children. He killed millions of people, most of them innocent, in the Bible. He killed all the first born babies of Egypt. Why did he do this? Oh, he WANTED to. He decided to blind the eyes of the Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the people go. The Pharaoh had no choice in the matter. So then God went about killing babies, except for the Jewish babies, and he spared them because they smeared lamb's blood on their doors. Does this sound like a sick and demented God to you? IF not, you need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


I knew you your going there. But I just wanted to verify it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS

Excuse me?? I knew (you) your (do you mean You're such as you are) and what in the fuck are you talking about? I just didn't get what you said. Can you explain a little more so that I can respond?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Okeydokey, I figured that your response would be the violent nature of the bible. I get it. (you're) not getting a disagreement from me on anything you said. Just wanted to confirm your knowledge. that's it.
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Oh, thanks, I appreciate the explanation.
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the answer is in almost every book of the new testament. it's the most basic understanding of the christian faith. how can you not be aware of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34272879


Riddle me this! how can that be right?
 Quoting: HJTRAS

Riddle me this!! What does: "I know you your going there" mean????
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Sorry was distracted when I typed that. "I knew you were going there."
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We are in and Of the Realm of the Beasts.

The Spirit of Evil will always demand satisfaction.

Wisdom comes from Denial of appetites

Water the Gift of Soul

In-Sight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34399071

Doesn't sound so much like insight but more like brainwashing. Where are these spirits you are talking about? Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary?

And evil spirits (demons) don't really exist. They thought so in Bible days but have since discovered that people can suffer from mental illness.

So what appetites do you deny? Gee, you must weigh under 60 pounds? What do you deny yourself exactly? Please tell us so that we can be like you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary? WHAT PART OF YOU WOULD BE IMAGINARY?

Your flesh?
Your thoughts?
Your actions?
Your reactions?
Your love?
Your hate?
Your anger?
Your calmness?
Your jealousy?
Your envy?
Your lust?
Your greed?
Your gluttony?
Your kindness?
Your heart?
Your words?
Susie

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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

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SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Do you understand the SON that GOD has?

GOD is not a Man...

You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit....

Susie

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Re: Why do BAD People always find GOD ?
Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Your entire supposition if flawed if not an outright fabrication.
Good and Bad people alike who seek God usually find him.
Good and Bad people alike who don't seek him, usually don't.

People like you who pose questions and then supply their own answer as if it's fact are flawed. You can't pose something as a truth, which isn't, then expect your deductive reasoning to find the truth. If you start with a lie your going to end with a lie

Saying good moral people are always in search of an elusive God...
God is not elusive, people who don't want to accept him and his ways are the culprit and guilty of separating themselves from God.
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We are in and Of the Realm of the Beasts.

The Spirit of Evil will always demand satisfaction.

Wisdom comes from Denial of appetites

Water the Gift of Soul

In-Sight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34399071

Doesn't sound so much like insight but more like brainwashing. Where are these spirits you are talking about? Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary?

And evil spirits (demons) don't really exist. They thought so in Bible days but have since discovered that people can suffer from mental illness.

So what appetites do you deny? Gee, you must weigh under 60 pounds? What do you deny yourself exactly? Please tell us so that we can be like you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary? WHAT PART OF YOU WOULD BE IMAGINARY?

Your flesh?
Your thoughts?
Your actions?
Your reactions?
Your love?
Your hate?
Your anger?
Your calmness?
Your jealousy?
Your envy?
Your lust?
Your greed?
Your gluttony?
Your kindness?
Your heart?
Your words?
 Quoting: christian

And none of these characteristics that humans possess has anything to do with imaginary beings called demons. Yes, we have thoughts and we love or get angry. What does this have to do with invisible beings like angels, demons, gods, etc.? Don't try to twist things.

So I believe in unicorns, let's say. I say, "No, they are not imaginary". So compare that to your list above and see how worthless and stupid your reply was. Could you really compare my belief in imaginary unicorns to human calmness or human lust??? No, you couldn't. But here again, you seem to be lacking something substantial, like reason and logic and morality.
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


When Death was created, do you know what it meant?

It meant being SEPERATED..

Seperated from who? THE GOD WHO CREATED YOU...

The FEAR of GOD is the FEAR of being seperated from him...


If someone said to you..I am going to take all of the Oxygen out of the room, does that mean you would be scared of Oxygen? or living without Oxygen?

Think about it...

Susie

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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Pretty much I think that is the way it goes.
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We are in and Of the Realm of the Beasts.

The Spirit of Evil will always demand satisfaction.

Wisdom comes from Denial of appetites

Water the Gift of Soul

In-Sight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34399071

Doesn't sound so much like insight but more like brainwashing. Where are these spirits you are talking about? Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary?

And evil spirits (demons) don't really exist. They thought so in Bible days but have since discovered that people can suffer from mental illness.

So what appetites do you deny? Gee, you must weigh under 60 pounds? What do you deny yourself exactly? Please tell us so that we can be like you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary? WHAT PART OF YOU WOULD BE IMAGINARY?

Your flesh?
Your thoughts?
Your actions?
Your reactions?
Your love?
Your hate?
Your anger?
Your calmness?
Your jealousy?
Your envy?
Your lust?
Your greed?
Your gluttony?
Your kindness?
Your heart?
Your words?
 Quoting: christian

And none of these characteristics that humans possess has anything to do with imaginary beings called demons. Yes, we have thoughts and we love or get angry. What does this have to do with invisible beings like angels, demons, gods, etc.? Don't try to twist things.

So I believe in unicorns, let's say. I say, "No, they are not imaginary". So compare that to your list above and see how worthless and stupid your reply was. Could you really compare my belief in imaginary unicorns to human calmness or human lust??? No, you couldn't. But here again, you seem to be lacking something substantial, like reason and logic and morality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814



Try answering the question...

How do you know what those human characteristics are? How do you know they are real????

If you are really MAD, is that real or imaginary???

How do you know?

Susie

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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


When Death was created, do you know what it meant?

It meant being SEPERATED..

Seperated from who? THE GOD WHO CREATED YOU...

The FEAR of GOD is the FEAR of being seperated from him...


If someone said to you..I am going to take all of the Oxygen out of the room, does that mean you would be scared of Oxygen? or living without Oxygen?

Think about it...

 Quoting: christian

That is a Catholic mind fuck right there.
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Do you understand the SON that GOD has?

GOD is not a Man...

You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit....

 Quoting: christian

So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are.

So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL

You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish???
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


When Death was created, do you know what it meant?

It meant being SEPERATED..

Seperated from who? THE GOD WHO CREATED YOU...

The FEAR of GOD is the FEAR of being seperated from him...


If someone said to you..I am going to take all of the Oxygen out of the room, does that mean you would be scared of Oxygen? or living without Oxygen?

Think about it...

 Quoting: christian



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Doesn't sound so much like insight but more like brainwashing. Where are these spirits you are talking about? Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary?

And evil spirits (demons) don't really exist. They thought so in Bible days but have since discovered that people can suffer from mental illness.

So what appetites do you deny? Gee, you must weigh under 60 pounds? What do you deny yourself exactly? Please tell us so that we can be like you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary? WHAT PART OF YOU WOULD BE IMAGINARY?

Your flesh?
Your thoughts?
Your actions?
Your reactions?
Your love?
Your hate?
Your anger?
Your calmness?
Your jealousy?
Your envy?
Your lust?
Your greed?
Your gluttony?
Your kindness?
Your heart?
Your words?
 Quoting: christian

And none of these characteristics that humans possess has anything to do with imaginary beings called demons. Yes, we have thoughts and we love or get angry. What does this have to do with invisible beings like angels, demons, gods, etc.? Don't try to twist things.

So I believe in unicorns, let's say. I say, "No, they are not imaginary". So compare that to your list above and see how worthless and stupid your reply was. Could you really compare my belief in imaginary unicorns to human calmness or human lust??? No, you couldn't. But here again, you seem to be lacking something substantial, like reason and logic and morality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814



Try answering the question...

How do you know what those human characteristics are? How do you know they are real????

If you are really MAD, is that real or imaginary???

How do you know?

 Quoting: christian

Have you ever walked down some street and have you seen a person talking to himself, having an active and loud conversation with someone who wasn't there? That is an imaginary friend. You do that too. You just don't talk to it out loud or maybe you do. Maybe you talk to it out loud in your house, and in that case, people hearing you would assume you have some mental condition.

Human emotions have nothing at all to do with imaginary friends. You can't even compare the two things because it doesn't work that way. If you are angry, then you are angry. It is a feeling so it is not imaginary. Why am I even having this conversation with you? YOu won't ever understand.
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

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SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
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Do you understand the SON that GOD has?

GOD is not a Man...

You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit....

 Quoting: christian

So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are.

So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL

You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish???
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How does GOD torture humanity?

Seems like Man is doing a Stand Up Job torturing people daily all on his own....

You are free to believe anything you want, but if you don't like the Outcome of your life you have no one to blame but you and yourself...

Stop blaming GOD for you decisions and outcome...

Go your way and stop fighting an issue you want no part of...

Susie

If you don't stand for your faith, then you won't stand at all....
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No one is GOOD in this world....

Not a one....

 Quoting: christian

SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Do you understand the SON that GOD has?

GOD is not a Man...

You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit....

 Quoting: christian

So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are.

So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL

You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish???
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That was cool too bad your not a preacher.
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Are they invisible? If so, how do you know they're not imaginary? WHAT PART OF YOU WOULD BE IMAGINARY?

Your flesh?
Your thoughts?
Your actions?
Your reactions?
Your love?
Your hate?
Your anger?
Your calmness?
Your jealousy?
Your envy?
Your lust?
Your greed?
Your gluttony?
Your kindness?
Your heart?
Your words?
 Quoting: christian

And none of these characteristics that humans possess has anything to do with imaginary beings called demons. Yes, we have thoughts and we love or get angry. What does this have to do with invisible beings like angels, demons, gods, etc.? Don't try to twist things.

So I believe in unicorns, let's say. I say, "No, they are not imaginary". So compare that to your list above and see how worthless and stupid your reply was. Could you really compare my belief in imaginary unicorns to human calmness or human lust??? No, you couldn't. But here again, you seem to be lacking something substantial, like reason and logic and morality.
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Try answering the question...

How do you know what those human characteristics are? How do you know they are real????

If you are really MAD, is that real or imaginary???

How do you know?

 Quoting: christian

Have you ever walked down some street and have you seen a person talking to himself, having an active and loud conversation with someone who wasn't there? That is an imaginary friend. You do that too. You just don't talk to it out loud or maybe you do. Maybe you talk to it out loud in your house, and in that case, people hearing you would assume you have some mental condition.

Human emotions have nothing at all to do with imaginary friends. You can't even compare the two things because it doesn't work that way. If you are angry, then you are angry. It is a feeling so it is not imaginary. Why am I even having this conversation with you? YOu won't ever understand.
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Still evading the question I see....

The decisions in my life are not based on what my flesh wants which sometimes it does get the best of me, like over-spending or doing something for myself that just benefits myself but not often...

However I let the Spirit within me guide me and when it does I never go the wrong way in life...Never....

That Spirit within me is called the Holy Spirit that I invited into my life and heart a very long time ago...

Your human emotions is the spirit that guides you which I am sure is why you keep hitting a wall....

Susie

If you don't stand for your faith, then you won't stand at all....
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Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day.
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Jesus did not come to preach to the well but to the sick.

A pastor of mine put it like this, "If God has to put you flat on your back before you will look up at Him, He will." ~ Rick Warren

A song that Leonard Cohen sang went something like this... When Jesus found out that only drowning men could be saved he became a sailor.
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lolatu Jesus was a carpenter.
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It is a song

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SO.....what's that supposed to mean? I know that no one is completely good, but then I am a heathen atheist. So because no one is good, we have to believe that God killed his own son because he hated people. So he had to kill something perfect, like that perfect lamb or oxen that came before Jesus. And he loved the smell of the burning fat, but that's another story.

So then we have to believe that God killed his own son, because if we don't, this same God will throw us into a flaming inferno. And our bodies will not be destroyed by this fire, but we will scream in pain and anguish forever. And the only reason for this punishment will be because we didn't believe that God killed his own son? Did I get that right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Do you understand the SON that GOD has?

GOD is not a Man...

You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World...

It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit....

 Quoting: christian

So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are.

So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL

You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814



How does GOD torture humanity?

Seems like Man is doing a Stand Up Job torturing people daily all on his own....

You are free to believe anything you want, but if you don't like the Outcome of your life you have no one to blame but you and yourself...

Stop blaming GOD for you decisions and outcome...

Go your way and stop fighting an issue you want no part of...

 Quoting: christian


Well, as I am unsure what version of the Christian God you believe in, soI must assume. God created hell. He sends people there who don't believe that his son died for them. If it sounds like a fairy tale to some people, that would be a good reason for God to torment them forever. If a person was born in a country where the predominant religion is Hindu, for instance, then those millions of people who live in India (in poverty, I might add) will go to hell because God had them born in the wrong country. Am I getting your version of God correct or did I make some mistake?

I am not blaming God for anything. I prefer to take responsibility for my own sins. When I do things wrong, my conscience tells me that it is wrong. I don't need an imaginary friend to tell me. I don't believe there is a God so, naturally, I don't blame "God" for anything.

I do want a part of this conversation because I feel that people like you poison the world with your idiotic rantings. You think that people who don't believe what you do deserve to burn forever. Do you think that's a nice way to be?

I like the outcome of my life. I have everything I want and need. So how about you? Maybe you are the one who needs to cling to some supernatural hereafter because your life on earth is so shitty that you keep hoping you will have a better life after you die. Grow up and take responsiblity for your own life. If you don't like something, make it better, but stop depending on your invisible crutch to do it for you.

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