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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23955441  United States02/14/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blessings to all!!  |
HJTRAS (OP) User ID: 26396568 United States02/14/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS Jesus did not come to preach to the well but to the sick. A pastor of mine put it like this, "If God has to put you flat on your back before you will look up at Him, He will." ~ Rick Warren A song that Leonard Cohen sang went something like this... When Jesus found out that only drowning men could be saved he became a sailor.  Jesus was a carpenter.It is a song  RAS |
| HJTRAS (OP) User ID: 26396568 United States02/14/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly many must fall all the way to the bottom before their pride is broken enough. Then they look up, and there it is. It was there all along waiting for them. The light of his love shines for all, but only a few choose to see what is right in front of all of our eyes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23955441 Blessings to all!! Sadly many must fall all the way to the bottom before their pride is broken enough. Then they look up, and there it is. It was there all along waiting for them. The light of his love shines for all, but only a few choose to see what is right in front of all of our eyes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23955441 Blessings to all!! You'll Drink the Kool-Aid. You fool. RAS |
| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States02/14/2013 06:04 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian Do you understand the SON that GOD has? GOD is not a Man... You are trying to understand a 4 Dimensional Spirit World from a 3 Dimensional Physical World... It cannnot be done....That is why FAITH is what sustains you because you are not living in a Spirit World, yet you can know the SPIRIT by living with the GIFT GOD gives you in Christ Jesus which is the Holy Spirit.... So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are. So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish??? How does GOD torture humanity? Seems like Man is doing a Stand Up Job torturing people daily all on his own.... You are free to believe anything you want, but if you don't like the Outcome of your life you have no one to blame but you and yourself... Stop blaming GOD for you decisions and outcome... Go your way and stop fighting an issue you want no part of... Well, as I am unsure what version of the Christian God you believe in, soI must assume. God created hell. He sends people there who don't believe that his son died for them. If it sounds like a fairy tale to some people, that would be a good reason for God to torment them forever. If a person was born in a country where the predominant religion is Hindu, for instance, then those millions of people who live in India (in poverty, I might add) will go to hell because God had them born in the wrong country. Am I getting your version of God correct or did I make some mistake? I am not blaming God for anything. I prefer to take responsibility for my own sins. When I do things wrong, my conscience tells me that it is wrong. I don't need an imaginary friend to tell me. I don't believe there is a God so, naturally, I don't blame "God" for anything. I do want a part of this conversation because I feel that people like you poison the world with your idiotic rantings. You think that people who don't believe what you do deserve to burn forever. Do you think that's a nice way to be? I like the outcome of my life. I have everything I want and need. So how about you? Maybe you are the one who needs to cling to some supernatural hereafter because your life on earth is so shitty that you keep hoping you will have a better life after you die. Grow up and take responsiblity for your own life. If you don't like something, make it better, but stop depending on your invisible crutch to do it for you. Don't tell me what I believe, because you have no idea not a clue.... Do I believe GOD tortures people??? NO... But you think of GOD as a MAN with the human emotions you have, that is your first problem.... GOD is a Creator of every single thing created in the UNiverse and everything that he has created is eternal... The Sun rises and the Sun sets The Moon rises and sets The Stars are fixed. You talk like a Child because I am sure you are... You don't know GOD therefore you could never understand his ways, his wisdom his eternal deity.. You talk like someone who is guided by his human emotions which will finally lead you into no-where... That is your choice, it matters to me not... I know GOD, I live with that knowledge daily and with Grace, humility, forgiveness as a flawed human being that isn't guided by Human Pride as you seem to be... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
| HJTRAS (OP) User ID: 26396568 United States02/14/2013 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814 So, nice way to evade the questions I asked above. I always thought the son of God was a man named Jesus whom you think literally walked the earth. So he was a flesh being but now he just lives in YOUR flesh. He talks with you and walks with you and he is you...but I promise not to tell anyone how delusional you are. So you talk to this God who lives in this four dimensional spirit world, and how long were you institutionalized for insantiy? Because I always thought that people who had imaginary friends were a little insane. Faith sounds like a simple thing to have. Just believe in imaginary gods and demons and you have it made. Just have faith that Jesus loves you and is building you some mansion in heaven, and that is what it is REALLY all about. It is all about you and your selfish way of living. Maybe I should try it sometime because it sounds so reality based, and logic based and sooo reasonable. LOL You are perfectly okay with this God torturing most of humanity forever because you erroniously believe that he loves you. WOW, can I say selfish??? How does GOD torture humanity? Seems like Man is doing a Stand Up Job torturing people daily all on his own.... You are free to believe anything you want, but if you don't like the Outcome of your life you have no one to blame but you and yourself... Stop blaming GOD for you decisions and outcome... Go your way and stop fighting an issue you want no part of... Well, as I am unsure what version of the Christian God you believe in, soI must assume. God created hell. He sends people there who don't believe that his son died for them. If it sounds like a fairy tale to some people, that would be a good reason for God to torment them forever. If a person was born in a country where the predominant religion is Hindu, for instance, then those millions of people who live in India (in poverty, I might add) will go to hell because God had them born in the wrong country. Am I getting your version of God correct or did I make some mistake? I am not blaming God for anything. I prefer to take responsibility for my own sins. When I do things wrong, my conscience tells me that it is wrong. I don't need an imaginary friend to tell me. I don't believe there is a God so, naturally, I don't blame "God" for anything. I do want a part of this conversation because I feel that people like you poison the world with your idiotic rantings. You think that people who don't believe what you do deserve to burn forever. Do you think that's a nice way to be? I like the outcome of my life. I have everything I want and need. So how about you? Maybe you are the one who needs to cling to some supernatural hereafter because your life on earth is so shitty that you keep hoping you will have a better life after you die. Grow up and take responsiblity for your own life. If you don't like something, make it better, but stop depending on your invisible crutch to do it for you. Don't tell me what I believe, because you have no idea not a clue.... Do I believe GOD tortures people??? NO... But you think of GOD as a MAN with the human emotions you have, that is your first problem.... GOD is a Creator of every single thing created in the UNiverse and everything that he has created is eternal... The Sun rises and the Sun sets The Moon rises and sets The Stars are fixed. You talk like a Child because I am sure you are... You don't know GOD therefore you could never understand his ways, his wisdom his eternal deity.. You talk like someone who is guided by his human emotions which will finally lead you into no-where... That is your choice, it matters to me not... I know GOD, I live with that knowledge daily and with Grace, humility, forgiveness as a flawed human being that isn't guided by Human Pride as you seem to be... From a mediators point view. One speaks from a spiritual sense the other from a earthly but in the end you both say about the same thing. RAS |
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| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States02/14/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian How does GOD torture humanity? Seems like Man is doing a Stand Up Job torturing people daily all on his own.... You are free to believe anything you want, but if you don't like the Outcome of your life you have no one to blame but you and yourself... Stop blaming GOD for you decisions and outcome... Go your way and stop fighting an issue you want no part of... Well, as I am unsure what version of the Christian God you believe in, soI must assume. God created hell. He sends people there who don't believe that his son died for them. If it sounds like a fairy tale to some people, that would be a good reason for God to torment them forever. If a person was born in a country where the predominant religion is Hindu, for instance, then those millions of people who live in India (in poverty, I might add) will go to hell because God had them born in the wrong country. Am I getting your version of God correct or did I make some mistake? I am not blaming God for anything. I prefer to take responsibility for my own sins. When I do things wrong, my conscience tells me that it is wrong. I don't need an imaginary friend to tell me. I don't believe there is a God so, naturally, I don't blame "God" for anything. I do want a part of this conversation because I feel that people like you poison the world with your idiotic rantings. You think that people who don't believe what you do deserve to burn forever. Do you think that's a nice way to be? I like the outcome of my life. I have everything I want and need. So how about you? Maybe you are the one who needs to cling to some supernatural hereafter because your life on earth is so shitty that you keep hoping you will have a better life after you die. Grow up and take responsiblity for your own life. If you don't like something, make it better, but stop depending on your invisible crutch to do it for you. Don't tell me what I believe, because you have no idea not a clue.... Do I believe GOD tortures people??? NO... But you think of GOD as a MAN with the human emotions you have, that is your first problem.... GOD is a Creator of every single thing created in the UNiverse and everything that he has created is eternal... The Sun rises and the Sun sets The Moon rises and sets The Stars are fixed. You talk like a Child because I am sure you are... You don't know GOD therefore you could never understand his ways, his wisdom his eternal deity.. You talk like someone who is guided by his human emotions which will finally lead you into no-where... That is your choice, it matters to me not... I know GOD, I live with that knowledge daily and with Grace, humility, forgiveness as a flawed human being that isn't guided by Human Pride as you seem to be... From a mediators point view. One speaks from a spiritual sense the other from a earthly but in the end you both say about the same thing. Not really.. You either speak from the Spirit or you speak from the Flesh... The Flesh does not inherit the Kingdom of GOD.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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| HJTRAS (OP) User ID: 26396568 United States02/14/2013 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814 Well, as I am unsure what version of the Christian God you believe in, soI must assume. God created hell. He sends people there who don't believe that his son died for them. If it sounds like a fairy tale to some people, that would be a good reason for God to torment them forever. If a person was born in a country where the predominant religion is Hindu, for instance, then those millions of people who live in India (in poverty, I might add) will go to hell because God had them born in the wrong country. Am I getting your version of God correct or did I make some mistake? I am not blaming God for anything. I prefer to take responsibility for my own sins. When I do things wrong, my conscience tells me that it is wrong. I don't need an imaginary friend to tell me. I don't believe there is a God so, naturally, I don't blame "God" for anything. I do want a part of this conversation because I feel that people like you poison the world with your idiotic rantings. You think that people who don't believe what you do deserve to burn forever. Do you think that's a nice way to be? I like the outcome of my life. I have everything I want and need. So how about you? Maybe you are the one who needs to cling to some supernatural hereafter because your life on earth is so shitty that you keep hoping you will have a better life after you die. Grow up and take responsiblity for your own life. If you don't like something, make it better, but stop depending on your invisible crutch to do it for you. Don't tell me what I believe, because you have no idea not a clue.... Do I believe GOD tortures people??? NO... But you think of GOD as a MAN with the human emotions you have, that is your first problem.... GOD is a Creator of every single thing created in the UNiverse and everything that he has created is eternal... The Sun rises and the Sun sets The Moon rises and sets The Stars are fixed. You talk like a Child because I am sure you are... You don't know GOD therefore you could never understand his ways, his wisdom his eternal deity.. You talk like someone who is guided by his human emotions which will finally lead you into no-where... That is your choice, it matters to me not... I know GOD, I live with that knowledge daily and with Grace, humility, forgiveness as a flawed human being that isn't guided by Human Pride as you seem to be... From a mediators point view. One speaks from a spiritual sense the other from a earthly but in the end you both say about the same thing. Not really.. You either speak from the Spirit or you speak from the Flesh... The Flesh does not inherit the Kingdom of GOD.... Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the. So not true. Jesus, Mary proves you wrong. RAS |
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| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States02/14/2013 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian Don't tell me what I believe, because you have no idea not a clue.... Do I believe GOD tortures people??? NO... But you think of GOD as a MAN with the human emotions you have, that is your first problem.... GOD is a Creator of every single thing created in the UNiverse and everything that he has created is eternal... The Sun rises and the Sun sets The Moon rises and sets The Stars are fixed. You talk like a Child because I am sure you are... You don't know GOD therefore you could never understand his ways, his wisdom his eternal deity.. You talk like someone who is guided by his human emotions which will finally lead you into no-where... That is your choice, it matters to me not... I know GOD, I live with that knowledge daily and with Grace, humility, forgiveness as a flawed human being that isn't guided by Human Pride as you seem to be... From a mediators point view. One speaks from a spiritual sense the other from a earthly but in the end you both say about the same thing. Not really.. You either speak from the Spirit or you speak from the Flesh... The Flesh does not inherit the Kingdom of GOD.... Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the. So not true. Jesus, Mary proves you wrong. Communion is a representation of the Body and Blood of the Living Christ....Fully GOD and Fully MAN... No Blood No Body in Christ =NO SALVATION.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
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| HJTRAS (OP) User ID: 26396568 United States02/14/2013 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HJTRAS From a mediators point view. One speaks from a spiritual sense the other from a earthly but in the end you both say about the same thing. Not really.. You either speak from the Spirit or you speak from the Flesh... The Flesh does not inherit the Kingdom of GOD.... Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the. So not true. Jesus, Mary proves you wrong. Communion is a representation of the Body and Blood of the Living Christ....Fully GOD and Fully MAN... No Blood No Body in Christ =NO SALVATION.... So Body and Blood of the Living Christ is GODS sacrifice for sin atonement. Well that goes right back to what the original argument was about. RAS |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34419261 United States02/15/2013 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. Luke 18:10-14 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17104373  Australia02/15/2013 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS cause he said it Himself..he came to heal the SICK..NOT the healthy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33722154  China02/15/2013 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS cause he said it Himself..he came to heal the SICK..NOT the healthy. You miss an interesting element; Brainchemistry. Some people are just bad and evil. Psychopaths, pedophiles, genocidal maniacs, dictators... just to name a few. You want to heal them? Be my guest. Though let me spoil it to you; they aren't going to be healed, their brains simply work that way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33722154 China02/15/2013 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, have you guys noted how churches/mosques usually attract criminals? Literally, criminals. These people are lying, cheating and stealing when they are not at church/mosque! And have you guys also noted how pretty much all churches are a place for these criminals to network - that's why everyone goes dressed in their best outfits, your employer might be there - or you might be able to land a business deal if there's an investor present! It's business, nothing more or less. Seriously, go to any church dressed like a homeless person, make sure you smell bad and remember to bring a bible with you. Observe religion at its finest and be amazed at the lack of faith and morals. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17104373 Australia02/15/2013 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS cause he said it Himself..he came to heal the SICK..NOT the healthy. You miss an interesting element; Brainchemistry. Some people are just bad and evil. Psychopaths, pedophiles, genocidal maniacs, dictators... just to name a few. You want to heal them? Be my guest. Though let me spoil it to you; they aren't going to be healed, their brains simply work that way. Even jesus didnt get around to ALL of em..FOR that reason..but the ones that DID respond..HE DID heal. Notice he left the "religios" rightous ones alone..and went after the sick..the possessed..the lepers..the tax rip off merchants..ONE of who became a diciple.' So..he has a soft spot fot the most twisted depraved dishonest ones. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33722154 China02/15/2013 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murderers, Rapists, Violent BOTTOM FEEDERS Of MORALITY, always find GOD. Good moral people are always in search of that elusive being called GOD. GOD the almighty why not bless the good. Why give the worst your best. My thought of the day. Quoting: HJTRAS cause he said it Himself..he came to heal the SICK..NOT the healthy. You miss an interesting element; Brainchemistry. Some people are just bad and evil. Psychopaths, pedophiles, genocidal maniacs, dictators... just to name a few. You want to heal them? Be my guest. Though let me spoil it to you; they aren't going to be healed, their brains simply work that way. Even jesus didnt get around to ALL of em..FOR that reason..but the ones that DID respond..HE DID heal. Notice he left the "religios" rightous ones alone..and went after the sick..the possessed..the lepers..the tax rip off merchants..ONE of who became a diciple.' So..he has a soft spot fot the most twisted depraved dishonest ones. I'm afraid you don't understand; The ones that did respond - were probably not really ill. In fact, I was reading the Bible(new testament part) and caught myself thinking - couldn't Jesus and his buddies have set up people to pretend to be blind/cripple/insane? And then miraculously heal them? (I've never seen a cripple human get up after a stern talking to - I find my intellegence prevents me from taking these miracles literal) I've grown up around some evil motherfuckers. Pure evil. And in decades, these people have NOT changed one iota unless it was for self-gain. Sure, people get wiser as they grow up - but these fuckers stay evil. Not to mention the children of the religious folks (go to church every sunday - pray all the time etc) that I've seen grow up - they're like shut-ins. Cannot connect to people outside of their little religious circle. |
