Citizens sway Canadian Government to Kill Internet Spying Bill C30 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32887535 Canada 02/14/2013 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater There was a thread on this yesterday....and you did nothing. The NSA is now handling these spy duties. They dropped it for that reason only. You won nothing. The NSA is spying on Canadians? good for canada a win now go get your guns back What are you talking about Guns. We have Guns. Do you live under a rock or in a cave. We have GUNS. Just not machine guns and who cares about that. Jesus. Only americans want a machine gun. Any one of you could be picked off with a 22 long rifle. Only Americans sit on their asses behind their computors and do nothing about the government thats supposed to support you cause your all so paranoid and scared like little babies cause THEY might come for you. Join and creat groups like this one and then support them to bring about change. Thats how it happens. But thats right you don't work together you work against each other and your only worried about your own little worlds instead of the big picture. You guys are all starting to act like assholes. They're going to keep us safe from the zombies as well |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34417115 Canada 02/14/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You Americans are so beat down with your own bullshit and misinformation its not even funny anymore. I can't believe how many of you believe that you can't change your Government and blame everybody else for fucking your country up. Step up to the plate and be MEN and WOMEN for once. Sites like this don't help your cause either. You all believe that your all under a microscope and if you do anything to change it you'll get dissapeared. As long as you believe this propaganda they have you right where they want you. The propaganda is eveywhere on this site making you believe your done for. They are lieing to you. You could change everything in a heartbeat. One mass peacful sitin in Washington DC demanding change could turn the tables on all of them but your all to scared cause you might go to a fema camp. You guys are done for and your doing it to yourselfs and by the time you realize it it will be way too late. SEE YA! We got our privacy and our guns and it wasn't that hard too do. Just takes courage and some organizations and support of the people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31735180 Canada 02/14/2013 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good. But i have this sick feeling that they killed it not because there was opposition, but that the opposition was negligible and that they could reintroduce a much heavier bill that would pass without problem. We may have won a battle, but it difficult to believe we could win the war. But then again, thats the beauty of our country, we the people really love to throw sticks in the wheels of the powerful elites, just to remind them not to fuck with us. Just ask the LPC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 140124 Canada 02/14/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :D Just as the title says. Quoting: hdca18 Posted by OpenMedia.ca on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 17:15 We did it. The Conservative government has killed online spying legislation Bill C-30! Join us in celebrating and pushing for a positive vision by contributing to our work now so that we can continue to have a huge impact together. ..... There was a thread on this yesterday....and you did nothing. The NSA is now handling these spy duties. They dropped it for that reason only. You won nothing. The NSA is spying on Canadians? ...all part of the same network. We share some of our military infrastructure with yours...intelligence is part of that. You may think you won....but you didn't...they did. Well at least we won in the public eye. They can't convict us at least. I doubt they'd stop spying on us either way. |
MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 02/14/2013 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread on this yesterday....and you did nothing. Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater The NSA is now handling these spy duties. They dropped it for that reason only. You won nothing. Warrants will just come under terrorism or hate speech, if they even need them for that. They are the 2nd biggest snoopers, Israel has most of the phone billing contracts so they send that info to the other authorities whether or not it is asked for. Last Edited by MHz on 02/14/2013 11:53 PM |
EnzoLove User ID: 29763415 United States 02/14/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24057050 A victory and Americans are shitting all over it. You have all been conditioned well. and the only people that are conditioned well are those that accept information just because they told you so. The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what canadians are about. Im at a lost for words. Love. While Living beyond. And enjoying the present. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31735180 Canada 02/14/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pffff, everyone knows if you want to survive the zombie apocalypse, you move north. The next winter will freeze the zombies brains, destroying the cells, therefor essentially killing them. You dont even have to waste bullets. And the farther you go, the bigger the buffer zone between American zombieland and Canadian boreal forest assuring you a somewhat peaceful zombie free not-end-of-the-world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24057050 Canada 02/15/2013 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24057050 A victory and Americans are shitting all over it. You have all been conditioned well. and the only people that are conditioned well are those that accept information just because they told you so. The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what canadians are about. Im at a lost for words. Yeah we're about fighting for our freedoms. Strange concept, huh? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24057050 Canada 02/15/2013 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24057050 A victory and Americans are shitting all over it. You have all been conditioned well. and the only people that are conditioned well are those that accept information just because they told you so. The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what canadians are about. Im at a lost for words. If you're the poster boy for Americans, y'all are fucked. I'm outta here too. GLP is full of deadbeats. |
EnzoLove User ID: 29763415 United States 02/15/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: EnzoLove and the only people that are conditioned well are those that accept information just because they told you so. The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what canadians are about. Im at a lost for words. Yeah we're about fighting for our freedoms. Strange concept, huh? No not a strange concept. What is strange is that you believe that i do not wish upon the same thing for all the people on planet earth. I do not just wish for my freedom just here in the united states but for all. i wish that people would see that all sorts of things are being done to distract and manipulate. and hey and if you know about fighting for your freedom then why do you not know the tactics of people in power work.when you are condition to believe that they have just killed that one bill...theyll make new ones. Im just saying dont think your out of the water. you have a brain correct? Love. While Living beyond. And enjoying the present. |
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MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 02/15/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm quite impressed actually even if it is just a paper win. I'm not sure that has worked on any bills in the past and it should raise hope that more can be done in the future by using the same (non-violent) means. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24057050 Canada 02/15/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24057050 The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what canadians are about. Im at a lost for words. Yeah we're about fighting for our freedoms. Strange concept, huh? No not a strange concept. What is strange is that you believe that i do not wish upon the same thing for all the people on planet earth. I do not just wish for my freedom just here in the united states but for all. i wish that people would see that all sorts of things are being done to distract and manipulate. and hey and if you know about fighting for your freedom then why do you not know the tactics of people in power work.when you are condition to believe that they have just killed that one bill...theyll make new ones. Im just saying dont think your out of the water. you have a brain correct? Can you go ahead and quote where I said anything being out of the water? All I said it's because of people like you with a defeatist attitude, "they", the powers that be, or whatever you call them, get away with it. If you want to win, you need to raise everyone's morale, which you are doing the complete opposite of with the attitude, "hey, what's the point, they're just going to keep trying so we might as well just buckle in." I'm not even American and I help fought for your gun rights. I'm pro-gun and support it. I even fought against SOPA and CISPA... and now planning on fighting against CISPA again. I really think anon #34417115 hit the nail on the head. Start fighting AND don't stop fighting. Because with your attitude, they've already won. And sadly, judging by most of the American posts in here, it seems to be how you collectively think. You can stay here all you want, post what you want, discredit everything. And it will bring all of you nowhere. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 02/15/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :D Just as the title says. Quoting: hdca18 Posted by OpenMedia.ca on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 17:15 We did it. The Conservative government has killed online spying legislation Bill C-30! Join us in celebrating and pushing for a positive vision by contributing to our work now so that we can continue to have a huge impact together. ..... There was a thread on this yesterday....and you did nothing. The NSA is now handling these spy duties. They dropped it for that reason only. You won nothing. The NSA is spying on Canadians? ...all part of the same network. We share some of our military infrastructure with yours...intelligence is part of that. You may think you won....but you didn't...they did. What difference does it make, they're going to do it whether or not there are pieces of paper. Consider yourself spied upon if you live on Earth. |
EnzoLove User ID: 29763415 United States 02/15/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No not a strange concept. What is strange is that you believe that i do not wish upon the same thing for all the people on planet earth. I do not just wish for my freedom just here in the united states but for all. i wish that people would see that all sorts of things are being done to distract and manipulate. and hey and if you know about fighting for your freedom then why do you not know the tactics of people in power work.when you are condition to believe that they have just killed that one bill...theyll make new ones. Im just saying dont think your out of the water. you have a brain correct? Can you go ahead and quote where I said anything being out of the water? All I said it's because of people like you with a defeatist attitude, "they", the powers that be, or whatever you call them, get away with it. If you want to win, you need to raise everyone's morale, which you are doing the complete opposite of with the attitude, "hey, what's the point, they're just going to keep trying so we might as well just buckle in." I'm not even American and I help fought for your gun rights. I'm pro-gun and support it. I even fought against SOPA and CISPA... and now planning on fighting against CISPA again. I really think anon #34417115 hit the nail on the head. Start fighting AND don't stop fighting. Because with your attitude, they've already won. And sadly, judging by most of the American posts in here, it seems to be how you collectively think. You can stay here all you want, post what you want, discredit everything. And it will bring all of you nowhere. Understood good observation about Americans but why do you think we earnestly feel like that sometimes. We walk around here and its hard to relate. I do understand that pessimistic vibe that you say we may carry and i do have to admit it that is how we are and we are fighting over here too. But the fact that these things are becoming an issue shows that the powers that be already have a problem with it. Why should something as free as the internet even come to question when it has done so much good already. It is hard to communicate around here the ideas and problems that need to be tackled accurately when the most absurd things are questioned. When im out in the world i influence with a great vibe and i do dislike pessimism but by the looks of things i hope that these things(bills, etc.) soon come to a halt and are accepted so that my pessimism may retreat. Last Edited by EnzoLove on 02/15/2013 12:32 AM Love. While Living beyond. And enjoying the present. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31735180 Canada 02/15/2013 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe but for now they still need that annoying warrant to drag your ass in court, and any info collected before that warrant will be inadmissible, good luck obtaining a warrant with proofs you shouldnt have in the first place. They can listen, watch and record. They just cant use any of it in court. But then they can always kidnap your ass in the middle of the night. I dont think it would be difficult for the CIA to pull off an operation in Canada. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2957590 United States 02/15/2013 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :D Just as the title says. Quoting: hdca18 Posted by OpenMedia.ca on Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 17:15 We did it. The Conservative government has killed online spying legislation Bill C-30! Join us in celebrating and pushing for a positive vision by contributing to our work now so that we can continue to have a huge impact together. ..... There was a thread on this yesterday....and you did nothing. The NSA is now handling these spy duties. They dropped it for that reason only. You won nothing. The NSA is spying on Canadians? outsourced |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 140124 Canada 02/15/2013 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm quite impressed actually even if it is just a paper win. I'm not sure that has worked on any bills in the past and it should raise hope that more can be done in the future by using the same (non-violent) means. Yep, it took some perseverance and word of mouth, but we proved that we can still band together on serious issues. 150k signatures is no small feat for a country of 35 million. I actually remember there being between 500k and 1 million signatures, but maybe that was for a similar bill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32336793 United States 02/15/2013 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gotta love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24057050 A victory and Americans are shitting all over it. You have all been conditioned well. and the only people that are conditioned well are those that accept information just because they told you so. The ones who "fight" and are useless are the ones who always admit defeat. Like yourself. Bend over and let Obama make you his bitch. owned. Anyone who leaves the States would know that we Americans are depicted as arrogant and not the brightest people they claim to be. Very prideful. But Thugs and Hoodlums are also very prideful. |
anon User ID: 32631750 United States 02/15/2013 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AFAIK, the US gummint has made cyber-war into a full time operation. No one anywhere is safe from Big Brother listening in. Also, I believe you and I at the bottom of the rung don't really provoke much interest from the PTB. It is peeps who've slithered their way to high levels within gummint and corporations that are monitored. They want to gather evidence to keep them playing ball for the team. Otherwise, their embarrassing activities would be released to the NYT and CNN. If the monitored are found to be gathering evidence to Congress or the justice system, they could be snuffed out. So, the spying system is really all about making the country safe for the high level elites who break the rules routinely. Are Canadians spied on by US agencies? The question should be: "who, on the planet, is not spied upon?" Us bottom feeders are safe but anyone else who's raking it it in in big bunches is not safe and should assume their online activities, cell phone calls, mail, smoke signals, are being watched by a computer which will in turn sound some sort of alarm for a human to investigate. As computers speed up (they're doubling in speed every 18 months, the system can expand to envelope more of the peeps raking it in in smaller bunches. |
Really?really? User ID: 29745169 Canada 02/15/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33462486 United States 02/15/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats ok. the american government is watching you anyways. sorry aboot that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708378 Maybe, but at least we got off our asses and did something... unlike some Southern neighbours who haven't done shit but bitch and moan... NDAA, Iraq, Afghanistan, JFK... Should I continue? LOL; the "funny hat" of America is saying we haven't done anything. We're the red-headed step child of the World! Take that you fkn Canalien. |
Really?really? User ID: 29745169 Canada 02/15/2013 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats ok. the american government is watching you anyways. sorry aboot that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708378 Maybe, but at least we got off our asses and did something... unlike some Southern neighbours who haven't done shit but bitch and moan... NDAA, Iraq, Afghanistan, JFK... Should I continue? LOL; the "funny hat" of America is saying we haven't done anything. We're the red-headed step child of the World! Take that you fkn Canalien. Hey we got a shot, for a lots of reasons you might not know about or understand, things could get better up here. I'd rather take my chances up here than be in your shoes down there. Good luck though. Really?really? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33462486 United States 02/15/2013 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You Americans are so beat down with your own bullshit and misinformation its not even funny anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34417115 I can't believe how many of you believe that you can't change your Government and blame everybody else for fucking your country up. Step up to the plate and be MEN and WOMEN for once. Sites like this don't help your cause either. You all believe that your all under a microscope and if you do anything to change it you'll get dissapeared. As long as you believe this propaganda they have you right where they want you. The propaganda is eveywhere on this site making you believe your done for. They are lieing to you. You could change everything in a heartbeat. One mass peacful sitin in Washington DC demanding change could turn the tables on all of them but your all to scared cause you might go to a fema camp. You guys are done for and your doing it to yourselfs and by the time you realize it it will be way too late. SEE YA! We got our privacy and our guns and it wasn't that hard too do. Just takes courage and some organizations and support of the people. Americans are as peaceful, and warlike if pushed, as any people you'll ever meet. We treat our own like a Momma with her cubs. Don't underestimate the power-of-the-people if they are pushed to the point of Revolution. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33462486 United States 02/15/2013 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats ok. the american government is watching you anyways. sorry aboot that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31708378 Maybe, but at least we got off our asses and did something... unlike some Southern neighbours who haven't done shit but bitch and moan... NDAA, Iraq, Afghanistan, JFK... Should I continue? LOL; the "funny hat" of America is saying we haven't done anything. We're the red-headed step child of the World! Take that you fkn Canalien. Hey we got a shot, for a lots of reasons you might not know about or understand, things could get better up here. I'd rather take my chances up here than be in your shoes down there. Good luck though. You might be right. I guess we'll find out before to long. |
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