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| psyoptics User ID: 11919225 02/15/2013 08:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Friday’s meteorite which struck Chelyabinsk carried a mass of around 40 tonnes, possibly making it the largest recorded object to hit the Earth since Tunguska. It was around 15 meters across when it entered the atmosphere, according to one expert. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575 "I'm not aware of anyone who saw this coming," Heiner Klinkrad, head of the European Space Operations Centre in Germany, said make one wonder if this was not traveling with DA14? now they say it came the wrong direction to be even a traveling buddy of DA14..... but now with all the scopes and eyes looking for DA14....no one saw this? come on folks we need to be just a little better at finding this things...ya think? a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
| psyoptics User ID: 11919225 02/15/2013 08:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How could a meteorite fragment hitting Chebarkul lake in Russia create a nearly perfect circle in the ice? Quoting: Tombfly 1577203 [link to www.slate.com] When you throw a square stone in a lake does it make a square ripple? The kinetic energy disperses in a round pattern. Hope this helps. In the solid state, chemical bonds are stronger than the kinetic energy of the atoms. The atoms are locked into their crystal lattice positions. Kinetic energy dispersal in solids is much lower. Energy would still radiate similar to seismic waves, but the ice wouldn't fracture in a circle. Does ice have cleavage? look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22557583 02/15/2013 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thing about DA14...it's been slowing down as it gets closer to Earth (went from a consistent 6.3 Km/s to 6.1 km/s) over the last couple of hours...shouldn't this thing be speeding up slightly as it enters Earth's gravitational pull?!?!? Quoting: Saddletramp [link to www.satflare.com] it should, if it really is an asteroid... |
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| Waterbug User ID: 34388912 02/15/2013 09:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian nuclear officials report their sites unaffected by Chelyabinsk near-miss meteorite shower Quoting: Waterbug [link to www.bellona.org] [snip] Area densely populated by nuclear facilities and contamination The most infamous nuclear facility in the area, located in the hard-hit Chelyabinsk Region, is the Mayak nuclear-fuel processing plant which houses some 560 tons of spent uranium fuel, 30 tons of reactor grade plutonium and 500,000 tons of solid radioactive waste. It also stores unknown quantities of weapons grade uranium and plutonium. Mayak was the site of a major accident in 1957 caused some of the worst nuclear contamination in the Soviet Union’s history, second perhaps only to the infamous Chernobyl reactor accident in the sheer volume of the radioactive emissions it released. The accident occurred when a waste storage tank exploded and showered radionuclides throughout the Southern Urals, leaving areas that are still heavily contaminated with radiation even today. Other sensitive nuclear sites in the area include Lake Karachai - only some 60 kilometers from where the meteorite hit - which Mayak used as a liquid waste dumping facility for decades. Some 120 million curies of radioactivity are concentrated there. The lake is now desiccated and summer winds carry radioactively contaminated dust particles into the air. An asteroid hit in the lake bed, said Igor Kudrik, an expert on Russia’s nuclear industry with Bellona, could severely exacerbate the amount of radionuclides blown into the atmosphere. Likewise, the Techa River Cascade, into which Mayak has dumped so much liquid radioactive contamination over six decades that the river itself is considered nuclear waste, could also spread radioactive contamination were it hit by an asteroid. Local NGOsare lobbying for the entire river to be covered by a cement sarcophagus, a la Chernobyl’s exploded reactor No 4. Other radioactive waste and spent nuclear storage sites that are speckled throughout the region could also have posed a danger. The Most Contaminated Place on Earth: Chelyabinsk-40 [link to sometimes-interesting.com] [snip] We’re quite familiar with the lore of various secret United States nuclear facilities; their storied history and operations being shrouded in secrecy has fascinated us for decades. What we seldom hear about are the secret nuclear laboratories and test facilities of our greatest Cold War opponent – the former U.S.S.R. One particular installation – Chelyabinsk-40 – was the first Soviet plutonium production complex and the site of three separate massive nuclear incidents. Until recently this area was not on maps and the Russian government denied its existence. |
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| ehecatl User ID: 34182728 02/15/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? Quoting: psyoptics round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. Not always round. If they come in at a very low angle they can make a series of skipping gouges. I have not heard what this impact looked like though. If we were the CIA we could look at live satellite images huh? |
| Waterbug User ID: 34388912 02/15/2013 09:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? Quoting: psyoptics round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. Not always round. If they come in at a very low angle they can make a series of skipping gouges. I have not heard what this impact looked like though. If we were the CIA we could look at live satellite images huh? Landed in a frozen lake. |
| TheTruthMonger User ID: 4160225 02/15/2013 09:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure that someone has already said this, but what are the chances that a meteorite would strike in Russia on the same day as the 2012 DA14 flyby, especially with all the talk about how it would be like the Tunguska event if it did hit? There is no way there wasn't someone who saw this coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2980207 Since it happened the chances are 100%. Chances are decent that they could have occurred on the same day. However, the chances that they occurred independently, unrelated, as NASA contends, are quite remote. |
| DoomTardSmash User ID: 22151483 02/15/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 1,000+ people injured, huge asteroid, yet I can't find a single video that actually shows its impact. You just see the flair, than the boom. This explosion has to be huge if its blowing windows out miles and miles away. At my old house a huge propane tank blew up about a mile away, big enough to see a huge mushroom cloud and shake the house. No broken glass or anything though. I was able to see the explosion lingering in the air for about a half hour. Why have we not seen a single impact or actual views of its explosion? All I see is breaking glass from a huge explosion and booming sounds. |
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| TheTruthMonger User ID: 4160225 02/15/2013 09:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 1,000+ people injured, huge asteroid, yet I can't find a single video that actually shows its impact. You just see the flair, than the boom. This explosion has to be huge if its blowing windows out miles and miles away. Quoting: DoomTardSmash At my old house a huge propane tank blew up about a mile away, big enough to see a huge mushroom cloud and shake the house. No broken glass or anything though. I was able to see the explosion lingering in the air for about a half hour. Why have we not seen a single impact or actual views of its explosion? All I see is breaking glass from a huge explosion and booming sounds. Lol, the explosion was in air. Plenty of videos showing the air burst shockwave. What explosion did you want to see? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33142471 02/15/2013 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 1,000+ people injured, huge asteroid, yet I can't find a single video that actually shows its impact. You just see the flair, than the boom. This explosion has to be huge if its blowing windows out miles and miles away. Quoting: DoomTardSmash At my old house a huge propane tank blew up about a mile away, big enough to see a huge mushroom cloud and shake the house. No broken glass or anything though. I was able to see the explosion lingering in the air for about a half hour. Why have we not seen a single impact or actual views of its explosion? All I see is breaking glass from a huge explosion and booming sounds. Do you actually think that a propane tank exploding can be compared to a 300 kiloton airburst? if so turn around and leave because this is way over your head. Also there are 3 confirmed impact sites, one of them being into the top of a building, and at least one in a lake. This has happened many times in many places before and will happen many times again ffs. Let me guess, you think haarp caused this. I guess OBAMA caused the last Gama Ray as well?? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20254564 02/15/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The regional Emergency Ministry denied previous unconfirmed reports by local media that the meteorite was shot by the military air defenses. The local newspaper Znak reported the meteorite was intercepted by an air defense unit at the Urzhumka settlement near Chelyabinsk. Quoting a source in the military, it wrote a missile salvo blew the meteorite to pieces at an altitude of 20 kilometers. Regnum news agency quoted a military source who claimed that the vapor condensation trail of the meteorite speaks to the fact that the meteorite was intercepted by air defenses. Witnesses said the explosion was so loud that it seemed like an earthquake and thunder had struck at the same time, and that there were huge trails of smoke across the sky. Others reported seeing burning objects fall to earth." [link to rt.com] |
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| DoomTardSmash User ID: 22151483 02/15/2013 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 1,000+ people injured, huge asteroid, yet I can't find a single video that actually shows its impact. You just see the flair, than the boom. This explosion has to be huge if its blowing windows out miles and miles away. Quoting: DoomTardSmash At my old house a huge propane tank blew up about a mile away, big enough to see a huge mushroom cloud and shake the house. No broken glass or anything though. I was able to see the explosion lingering in the air for about a half hour. Why have we not seen a single impact or actual views of its explosion? All I see is breaking glass from a huge explosion and booming sounds. Do you actually think that a propane tank exploding can be compared to a 300 kiloton airburst? if so turn around and leave because this is way over your head. Also there are 3 confirmed impact sites, one of them being into the top of a building, and at least one in a lake. This has happened many times in many places before and will happen many times again ffs. Let me guess, you think haarp caused this. I guess OBAMA caused the last Gama Ray as well?? What I am saying is that something as small as a propane tank exploding created more of a visible after effect than this meteor. All I am seeing is flashes and booms. 300kt exploding in mid air would have made a much larger visible explosion than what we're seeing in these videos. No I am not a fucking GLP retard, I am just curious why we have no videos of actual impacts and just sounds. I wanna see some shit blowing up, not a smoke trail and flashes. |
| JIMMY User ID: 27653489 02/15/2013 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MOSCOW — With a blinding flash and a booming shock wave, a meteor blazed across the western Siberian sky Friday and exploded with the force of 20 atomic bombs, injuring more than 1,000 people as it blasted out windows and spread panic in a city of 1 million Scientists estimated the meteor unleashed a force 20 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb, although the space rock exploded at a much higher altitude. Amy Mainzer, a scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said the atmosphere acted as a shield |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32412853 02/15/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? Quoting: psyoptics round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. Not always round. If they come in at a very low angle they can make a series of skipping gouges. I have not heard what this impact looked like though. If we were the CIA we could look at live satellite images huh? Landed in a frozen lake. Most of it exploded ... the small remainder of what was left landed in that lake ... good lord hope there is not some dorky conspiracy now about that hole in the ice from a piece of the shit that exploded above ... |
| Waterbug User ID: 34388912 02/15/2013 09:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? Quoting: psyoptics round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. Not always round. If they come in at a very low angle they can make a series of skipping gouges. I have not heard what this impact looked like though. If we were the CIA we could look at live satellite images huh? Landed in a frozen lake. Most of it exploded ... the small remainder of what was left landed in that lake ... good lord hope there is not some dorky conspiracy now about that hole in the ice from a piece of the shit that exploded above ... Yeah. There's a photo in the Bloomberg article. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 02/15/2013 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | chelyabinsk is a nuclear research and weapons testing area, has had serious nuclear incidents in its past(1957) is one of the worst polluted areas on the planet and has had ufo sightings out here as well also large gold ore deposits and is a huge metallurgical refinery area as well, something else is going on here and im not buying a meteor story. Quoting: crestedone This. This. This. Really ODD that this is where it struck. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32236425 02/15/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 1,000+ people injured, huge asteroid, yet I can't find a single video that actually shows its impact. You just see the flair, than the boom. This explosion has to be huge if its blowing windows out miles and miles away. Quoting: DoomTardSmash At my old house a huge propane tank blew up about a mile away, big enough to see a huge mushroom cloud and shake the house. No broken glass or anything though. I was able to see the explosion lingering in the air for about a half hour. Why have we not seen a single impact or actual views of its explosion? All I see is breaking glass from a huge explosion and booming sounds. it exploded in the AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Spittin'Cesium User ID: 14589973 02/15/2013 09:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yar,so - This video shows several explosions of the meteorite. Sounds like bombs going off I'm still not %100 sure what to make of this apparent Meteorite - Somethings seem off to me,for example the punched out hole in the wall and roof of the Zinc Factory where it was claimed part of the Meteorite struck causing the damage seen,here - [link to www.youtube.com] Coupled with this regarding the future worth of the plant - ' Chelyabinsk Zinc expects RAS net profit to tumble 90% in 2013 CHELYABINSK. Dec 7 (Interfax) - Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant (RTS: CHZN) is planning to post a net profit of 55 million rubles to Russian Accounting Standards next year, compared to an anticipated net profit of 594 million rubles in 2012, the plant's chief executive, Rinat Shakirzyanov told Interfax, citing the approved budget for 2013' [link to business.highbeam.com] And then,whadayaknow - 'Zinc rose in London, narrowing this week’s drop, after an exploding meteorite caused damage at a Russian plant producing the metal. A shock wave caused by the blast destroyed a wall in a concentrate warehouse at the Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant site and smashed windows in other buildings, spokesman Evgeny Ponomarev said today. The plant is working as usual, he said. Chelyabinsk Zinc produced 160,000 metric tons of refined zinc and alloys last year, according to the company website. “Your immediate knee-jerk reaction is that this is potential supply being taken out of the market,” Nic Brown, head of commodity research at Natixis SA in London, said by phone today. “And then you spend time thinking, ‘How much impact does this have?’”' [link to www.bloomberg.com] ! So as far as the Zinc Factory is concerned I am suspicious Any takers!? The thing that hath been, is That which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33560264 02/15/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How could a meteorite fragment hitting Chebarkul lake in Russia create a nearly perfect circle in the ice? Quoting: Tombfly 1577203 [link to www.slate.com] When you throw a square stone in a lake does it make a square ripple? The kinetic energy disperses in a round pattern. Hope this helps. In the solid state, chemical bonds are stronger than the kinetic energy of the atoms. The atoms are locked into their crystal lattice positions. Kinetic energy dispersal in solids is much lower. Energy would still radiate similar to seismic waves, but the ice wouldn't fracture in a circle. Does ice have cleavage? look at the moon see the shape of those creators????? round. impact creator are always round....it is physics. Your physics are very much flawed then. Trjectory is everything!! |