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meteor hits central russia

 
ehecatl

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Not always round. If they come in at a very low angle they can make a series of skipping gouges.

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No
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Yeah actually it is true, although rather unlikely, tear-drop shapes are possible but unlikely too.

I remember reading a whole artical about it in Science News magazine about 20 years ago along with photos of Lunar examples and places on the earth where it was suggested that this form of impact occured.

I tried to find an internet link to the data for a few minutes but was unsuccessful, and I dont care about it enough to take the time to look more, but I know it is possible based on solid examples.

Anyhow, it hit water huh? I haven't been around all day so I don't know. Maybe it is a big metallic chunk that would be easy to detect.


As far as the "astronomical odds" that this came in near the time of the touted close pass with da14,

...first of all I ask what was the trajectory?, anything similar to da14?

...and if it was, then I would suggest that it was once loosely bound to to da14 by very subtle gravitational forces, and that something caused it to come apart some months back perhaps.

if that were the case then there could be also more smaller materials coming in at different times and slightly different trajectories, like gravel or sand size materials, or more big stuff too for that matter.

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Yar,so -



This video shows several explosions of the meteorite. Sounds like bombs going off
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I'm still not %100 sure what to make of this apparent Meteorite - Somethings seem off to me,for example the punched out hole in the wall and roof of the Zinc Factory where it was claimed part of the Meteorite struck causing the damage seen,here -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Coupled with this regarding the future worth of the plant -

' Chelyabinsk Zinc expects RAS net profit to tumble 90% in 2013

CHELYABINSK. Dec 7 (Interfax) - Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant (RTS: CHZN) is planning to post a net profit of 55 million rubles to Russian Accounting Standards next year, compared to an anticipated net profit of 594 million rubles in 2012, the plant's chief executive, Rinat Shakirzyanov told Interfax, citing the approved budget for 2013
' [link to business.highbeam.com]

And then,whadayaknow -

'Zinc rose in London, narrowing this week’s drop, after an exploding meteorite caused damage at a Russian plant producing the metal.

A shock wave caused by the blast destroyed a wall in a concentrate warehouse at the Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant site and smashed windows in other buildings, spokesman Evgeny Ponomarev said today. The plant is working as usual, he said. Chelyabinsk Zinc produced 160,000 metric tons of refined zinc and alloys last year, according to the company website.

“Your immediate knee-jerk reaction is that this is potential supply being taken out of the market,” Nic Brown, head of commodity research at Natixis SA in London, said by phone today. “And then you spend time thinking, ‘How much impact does this have
?’”' [link to www.bloomberg.com] !

So as far as the Zinc Factory is concerned I am suspiciouswink

sunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Any takers!?

sunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Very interesting, over 500 million R less than 2012? Something stinks here. Great observation.

The wall at the warehouse looked to be of Soviet era.I think a strong wind could have taken it down.

My guess is a kinetic blast wave hit the weak part of the wall,Kinda like a ricochet.
 Quoting: northerntomcat 33077229


Yes,I had to do a bit of digging to find the above but persisted as something didn't ring true regarding the Zinc Factory and reports it was hit by part of the Meteorite.

wink
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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More Than 1,000 Russians Injured In Freaking Coolest Event Ever

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Yar,so -

...


I'm still not %100 sure what to make of this apparent Meteorite - Somethings seem off to me,for example the punched out hole in the wall and roof of the Zinc Factory where it was claimed part of the Meteorite struck causing the damage seen,here -


[link to www.youtube.com]

Coupled with this regarding the future worth of the plant -

' Chelyabinsk Zinc expects RAS net profit to tumble 90% in 2013

CHELYABINSK. Dec 7 (Interfax) - Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant (RTS: CHZN) is planning to post a net profit of 55 million rubles to Russian Accounting Standards next year, compared to an anticipated net profit of 594 million rubles in 2012, the plant's chief executive, Rinat Shakirzyanov told Interfax, citing the approved budget for 2013
' [link to business.highbeam.com]

And then,whadayaknow -

'Zinc rose in London, narrowing this week’s drop, after an exploding meteorite caused damage at a Russian plant producing the metal.

A shock wave caused by the blast destroyed a wall in a concentrate warehouse at the Chelyabinsk Zinc Plant site and smashed windows in other buildings, spokesman Evgeny Ponomarev said today. The plant is working as usual, he said. Chelyabinsk Zinc produced 160,000 metric tons of refined zinc and alloys last year, according to the company website.

“Your immediate knee-jerk reaction is that this is potential supply being taken out of the market,” Nic Brown, head of commodity research at Natixis SA in London, said by phone today. “And then you spend time thinking, ‘How much impact does this have
?’”' [link to www.bloomberg.com] !

So as far as the Zinc Factory is concerned I am suspiciouswink

sunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Any takers!?

sunhf
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Very interesting, over 500 million R less than 2012? Something stinks here. Great observation.

The wall at the warehouse looked to be of Soviet era.I think a strong wind could have taken it down.

My guess is a kinetic blast wave hit the weak part of the wall,Kinda like a ricochet.
 Quoting: northerntomcat 33077229


Yes,I had to do a bit of digging to find the above but persisted as something didn't ring true regarding the Zinc Factory and reports it was hit by part of the Meteorite.

wink
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I have been having a hard time wraping my head around the circular nature of the "so called impact area" I looked up the Tunguska event and found some similarities,actually a lot of them.

Some dude (Leonid Kulik) did an expedition to the site


Here's a taste

Upon closer examination, Kulik located holes which he erroneously concluded were meteorite holes; however, he did not have the means at this time to excavate the holes.

During the next ten years there were three more expeditions to the area. Kulik found several dozens of little "pothole" bogs, each some 10 to 50 metres (33 to 160 ft) in diameter, that he thought might be meteoric craters. After a laborious exercise in draining one of these bogs (the so-called "Suslov’s crater", 32 metres [105 ft] in diameter), he found there was an old stump on the bottom, ruling out the possibility that it was a meteoric crater.

Read more under the history part here

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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People that were standing next to glass mostly.
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Yes,I had to do a bit of digging to find the above but persisted as something didn't ring true regarding the Zinc Factory and reports it was hit by part of the Meteorite.
wink
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Ah, I love zinc. One of the most useful consumable metals, plus one of the few that is non-toxic and even nutritious to consume.

Speaking of conspiracy suspicions, here is another interesting thread that just appeared -
Thread: Nuclear facilities near where meteor fragments landed in Russia — Radiation testing to continue throughout day — Location of third worst nuke acc
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Consider...

What are the chances of...

...walking into a Las Vegas casino, putting a dollar coin into a slot machine and winning the house jackpot... not just once, but THIRTEEN TIMES IN A ROW???

Every few tens of millions of years, the Earth passes through the plane of the galaxy during which it is highly likely to be hit repeatedly by huge asteroids, each capable of wiping out all life above bacteria.

The odds of life of any scale surviving to now are the same as walking into the casino and winning 13 times, first roll, on thirteen slot machines in sequence.

This does therefore give the impresson that there really is an ancient alien planetary defence system automatically protecting our back, sitting to the East of othe Ural Mountains.
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Big Brother Jupiter has our back and protects us from a lot of meteors.
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look at the moon see the shape of those creators?????
round.
impact creator are always round....it is physics.
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This is generally true, but not always true.

Try skipping a stone off sand or mud, they way you would off water.

With all the proper conditions like the shape of the stone, velocity range, etc etc, it is possible, although unlikely.
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Guys, I think that was just the lid of Fukushima reactor #3 coming back down....nothing to worry about.
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Took awhile, dinnit..?

Chuckle
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Yeah, Chuck Norris caught it and just decided to throw it back.
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Clean up team sent to Urals
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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yeah, it was launched by bug planet, there will be more.ahhhabomb::
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Clean up team sent to Urals
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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? I thought they said they shot it down.
Now it broke up?
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Yes,I had to do a bit of digging to find the above but persisted as something didn't ring true regarding the Zinc Factory and reports it was hit by part of the Meteorite.
wink
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Ah, I love zinc. One of the most useful consumable metals, plus one of the few that is non-toxic and even nutritious to consume.

Speaking of conspiracy suspicions, here is another interesting thread that just appeared -
Thread: Nuclear facilities near where meteor fragments landed in Russia — Radiation testing to continue throughout day — Location of third worst nuke acc
 Quoting: ehecatl



Meteor Strikes Near 7 Nuclear Fuel Plants; Chelybinsk Previously Produced Weapons

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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People that were standing next to glass mostly.
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That is why when dining out or going to public places, people need to stay away from windows and glass panels. Basic safety precaution.
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I guess it is doom off again.
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Yes,I had to do a bit of digging to find the above but persisted as something didn't ring true regarding the Zinc Factory and reports it was hit by part of the Meteorite.
wink
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Ah, I love zinc. One of the most useful consumable metals, plus one of the few that is non-toxic and even nutritious to consume.

Speaking of conspiracy suspicions, here is another interesting thread that just appeared -
Thread: Nuclear facilities near where meteor fragments landed in Russia — Radiation testing to continue throughout day — Location of third worst nuke acc
 Quoting: ehecatl



Meteor Strikes Near 7 Nuclear Fuel Plants; Chelybinsk Previously Produced Weapons

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Glad you guys are finally up to speed.
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Just now on RT


a series of explosions in the skies of Russia’s Urals region has sparked panic in three major cities


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Another meteorite burning up in the USA. Good thing this one didnt explode.

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where what state???????????
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This was in Florida.
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I guess it is doom off again.
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Not by a long shot! Wait until the Bio-chemists start showing up in their Moon suits it will look like a GLP wet dream.

Trust me .
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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Consider...

What are the chances of...

...walking into a Las Vegas casino, putting a dollar coin into a slot machine and winning the house jackpot... not just once, but THIRTEEN TIMES IN A ROW???

Every few tens of millions of years, the Earth passes through the plane of the galaxy during which it is highly likely to be hit repeatedly by huge asteroids, each capable of wiping out all life above bacteria.

The odds of life of any scale surviving to now are the same as walking into the casino and winning 13 times, first roll, on thirteen slot machines in sequence.

This does therefore give the impresson that there really is an ancient alien planetary defence system automatically protecting our back, sitting to the East of othe Ural Mountains.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33130922



Big Brother Jupiter has our back and protects us from a lot of meteors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34504517


I was thinking about this and re-researching a lot of Yukutia lore earlier. Is this what you are talking about?
"No matter how exotic human civilization becomes, no matter the developments of life and society nor the complexity of the machine/human interface, there always come interludes of lonely power when the course of humankind, depends upon the relatively simple actions of single individuals."
~Tleilaxu Godbuk
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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Many ran to the windows to see what was happening .When the blast wave hit the windows they were looking through exploded in their faces.many are now blind.
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Dunno if anyone cares but, my daughter and I just witnessed a meteor burning up in the western sky over Cali just about a half hour ago. It burned white and green and lasted for a few seconds till we lost sight of it at the horizon.
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Has it been explained how 1000 got hurt from a Flash?
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the shockwave from the massively awesome asskicking explosion blew out windows and generally fucked up shit in the russian shithole city down below and poor russians got all kinds of fucked up injuries like glass in there eyes and shit its fucked up
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I've seen several posts tonight talking about seeing fireballs or meteors from across the US - tonight! I've been trying to get on www.meteorscan.com for their live feed, but the screen is frozen on the same shot as when the Russian meteor hit. Anyone else having problems accessing a live feed? I'd like to know if there is abnormal activity tonight.
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The multiple bursts would seem to indicate the pieces coming off the the meteor were breaking the sound barrier every couple seconds? Why is there more than one pop?
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Isn't it amazing how this was caught on a billion cameras, but we don't have any footage of a plane going into the DoD?

:P
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Supreme Court decision on Obama on Tuesday.

He has plenty of time to start WW3 before then.

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There are different ways to respond.

There aren't many outright wars now.
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Isn't it amazing how this was caught on a billion cameras, but we don't have any footage of a plane going into the DoD?

:P
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There was footage from a nearby hotel but it was 'confiscated'.

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