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RT News : Meteorite Crash In Russia May Be Connected To Asteroid 2012 DA14 !

 
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hmm

What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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 Quoting: Artaius San



Well, the Russians are saying it's not related to 2012 DA14.


"8:10 GMT: Oleg Malkov, an aerospace scientist at Moscow State University, told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper that the meteorite went undetected by space scanners, likely because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. "We can only register stones coming from the direction of the night sky," he explained. Malkov confirmed that the meteor shower in the Urals was not connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid that will approach Earth in a few hours." [link to rt.com]
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Update :

UPDATE: Nearly 725 people requested medical assistance in regions hit by meteorite

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Yeah, where were NASA and all other scientists?

Too busy worrying about Carbon Dioxide.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14, which measures 45 to 95 meters in diameter and will be passing by Earth tonight at around 19:25 GMT at the record close range of 27,000 kilometers.

[link to www.ufo-blogger.com]

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Unrelated. Just a pure coincidence.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e



THIS !!! You are on same page as I am.

Astroshill and his minions probably skiped the math class.

The mathematical probability of a metoer shower to hit Earth 12 hours before the CLOSEST flyby (won't be a flyby at all, but "they" call it this way) is about the same chance for a person to be hit by lightning 2,770 times.

Yeah, not related my ass!
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34428684


Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
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SO HOW COME NASA DID NOT SEE THIS THING??? What else have they missed?
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hmm

What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e

 Quoting: Artaius San



Well, the Russians are saying it's not related to 2012 DA14.


"8:10 GMT: Oleg Malkov, an aerospace scientist at Moscow State University, told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper that the meteorite went undetected by space scanners, likely because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. "We can only register stones coming from the direction of the night sky," he explained. Malkov confirmed that the meteor shower in the Urals was not connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid that will approach Earth in a few hours." [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr



Well, about 1 hour after he said that, another astronomer from the SAME Observatory, said it might be related.

Check GLP threads.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
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Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


SO HOW COME NASA DID NOT SEE THIS THING??? What else have they missed?
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The russians and NASA keep saying it was coming from the Sun and that is why the russians didn't see it.

BUT THE AMERICANS HAD NIGHT at that time, not to mention that the russians had NIGHT only hours before the metoer shower hit !!!

They either see it earlier and didn't say anything OR they didn't see it and they know about the same about anything else, meaning squat.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14, which measures 45 to 95 meters in diameter and will be passing by Earth tonight at around 19:25 GMT at the record close range of 27,000 kilometers.

[link to www.ufo-blogger.com]

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Unrelated. Just a pure coincidence.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e


^^^

This. hf
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14, which measures 45 to 95 meters in diameter and will be passing by Earth tonight at around 19:25 GMT at the record close range of 27,000 kilometers.

[link to www.ufo-blogger.com]

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DA14 has brought along many friends with it to party at Earth!! 5a5a
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Asteroids never walk alone.

They are always in groups...

It's like a gang...
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hmm

What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e

 Quoting: Artaius San



Well, the Russians are saying it's not related to 2012 DA14.


"8:10 GMT: Oleg Malkov, an aerospace scientist at Moscow State University, told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper that the meteorite went undetected by space scanners, likely because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. "We can only register stones coming from the direction of the night sky," he explained. Malkov confirmed that the meteor shower in the Urals was not connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid that will approach Earth in a few hours." [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Later on on the same site:

11:10 GMT: The meteorite blast in the Chelyabinsk region may be connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid, which will pass close to Earth tonight, Tatyana Borisevich from Pulkovo Observatory told Itar-Tass.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34428684


Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You might be right, from what i have seen on the news it's being looked into from all the video footage there is to find out if it's connected or not.
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hmm

What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e

 Quoting: Artaius San



Well, the Russians are saying it's not related to 2012 DA14.


"8:10 GMT: Oleg Malkov, an aerospace scientist at Moscow State University, told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper that the meteorite went undetected by space scanners, likely because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. "We can only register stones coming from the direction of the night sky," he explained. Malkov confirmed that the meteor shower in the Urals was not connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid that will approach Earth in a few hours." [link to rt.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Of course they have to say it's not related, otherwise DA14 could follow the same route! get it?
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Astro...Can you please tell us in layman's terms how you KNOW what direction the Urals rock came in from?

TIA...
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Astro...Can you please tell us in layman's terms how you KNOW what direction the Urals rock came in from?

TIA...
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It hit during the day time and it hit in the Urals, which naturally means northern latitudes. Those two facts show that it came from a very different direction than 2012 DA14.
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Astro...Can you please tell us in layman's terms how you KNOW what direction the Urals rock came in from?

TIA...
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It hit during the day time and it hit in the Urals, which naturally means northern latitudes. Those two facts show that it came from a very different direction than 2012 DA14.
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Sounds dubious. the fact that a meteor hit in northern hemisphere does Not mean that it did not approach our planet from the other side. likewise a meteor approaching and entering our earth in the southern hemisphere does not have to hit in the same hemisphere. Once the object enters our atmosphere and is under direct influence of our earth attarction it will gradually and increasingly benduntil it hits somewhere
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The russians and NASA keep saying it was coming from the Sun and that is why the russians didn't see it.

BUT THE AMERICANS HAD NIGHT at that time, not to mention that the russians had NIGHT only hours before the metoer shower hit !!!
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Yeah, where were NASA and all other scientists?

Too busy worrying about Carbon Dioxide.
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and muzzief*ckwit outreach

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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
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Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
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Why do you believe it have to be approaching from an entirely different orbit just because it struck the Northern hemisphere?
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14, which measures 45 to 95 meters in diameter and will be passing by Earth tonight at around 19:25 GMT at the record close range of 27,000 kilometers.

[link to www.ufo-blogger.com]

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heh 2 days ago they said 50,000 miles..

WHAT THE FUCK.
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it keeps getting bigger, and the approach path closer.

every single day!

like a countdown.. By the time its suppsoed to arrive it will hit earth as a 200m wide asteroid.
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Astro I am sorry you have to put up with so much hate for just trying to inform people.

People, the first step to exploring the unexplained is to rule out what can be explained. Jumping on every little thing as a conspiracy or as unexplain-able is just retarded.
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If it is true that they intercepted it with a missile then they had some sort of advanced warning. You don't do that kind of telemetry on the fly.

...on second thought...

I guess it is possible to achieve an intercept with an IR or Radar seeker on that missile, with little to no warning.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34428684


Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
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Think about this for one minute. 2012 da14 could have broken up hundreds or thousands of years ago while it was near us or afar causing a different orbits but very close depending on size and shape of the objects.
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34428684


Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Think about this for one minute. 2012 da14 could have broken up hundreds or thousands of years ago while it was near us or afar causing a different orbits but very close depending on size and shape of the objects.
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Do you realize the energy it takes to create such a huge change in orbit?
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Astro, with this Russian meteor and the Cuban meteor, NASA is a big FAIL. Do you know what that means? It makes all of your critical calculations that you get from NASA to "track" the objects your self are even less dependable..

Lets think about this for a second. If the Russian meteorite did not land in that huge ass lake, it wouldn't have been dampened nearly as much. Russia got extremely lucky. That lake took so much damage from this I dont even want to think about what would have happened if this had landed in a diff spot.
What's next astro? NASA knew this meteor was going to hit the lake so they diddnt report it?
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It is believed that the incident may be connected to asteroid 2012 DA14,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34428684


Think about this for one minute. How can someone claim that a meteor seen hitting in a northern hemisphere location is "connected" to an asteroid which is approaching steeply from the southern hemisphere? The meteor had to have been approaching from a completely different orbit than 2012 DA14... I swear, RT is trying to make CNN look good on this asteroid by comparison.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Think about this for one minute. 2012 da14 could have broken up hundreds or thousands of years ago while it was near us or afar causing a different orbits but very close depending on size and shape of the objects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7670633


Do you realize the energy it takes to create such a huge change in orbit?
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Plus if the orbits are different, then the objects won't be close together hundreds or thousands of years later.
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hmm

What are the chances that the most damaging meteor in known human history happens 12 hours before the closest flyby of a large asteroid?

NEXT TO 0 CHANCE.. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
 Quoting: Ap0c@Lyp5e

 Quoting: Artaius San


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Astro, with this Russian meteor and the Cuban meteor, NASA is a big FAIL. Do you know what that means? It makes all of your critical calculations that you get from NASA to "track" the objects your self are even less dependable..
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No and no. First it's a strawman argument to claim that NASA should have known about this meteor before it hit. Secondly I did my own calculations from amateur data independently of NASA. 2012 DA14 will not hit earth. It did not hit earth, something else did from a completely different direction.
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Astro, with this Russian meteor and the Cuban meteor, NASA is a big FAIL. Do you know what that means? It makes all of your critical calculations that you get from NASA to "track" the objects your self are even less dependable..
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No and no. First it's a strawman argument to claim that NASA should have known about this meteor before it hit. Secondly I did my own calculations from amateur data independently of NASA. 2012 DA14 will not hit earth. It did not hit earth, something else did from a completely different direction.
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I bet you were shitting asteroids when you saw the headlines this morning, weren't you? LOL!

I was ready to made the score: Astro - 1 Dunham - 0, but I think it will now stand at: Astro - 1 Dunham - 0.5, with time on the clock.

Now I know why Dunham gave his presentation in Moscow last year.

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That is one HELL of a coincidence then if they are not related.

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