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The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights

 
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The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights
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"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -- George Orwell1

Let’s start with this: The citizen’s right to possess firearms is a fundamental political right. The political principle at stake is quite simple: to deny the state the monopoly of armed force. This should perhaps be stated in the obverse: to empower the citizenry, to distribute the power of armed force among the citizenry as a whole. The history of arguments and struggles over this principle, throughout the world, is long and clear. Instituted in the context of a revolutionary struggle based on the most democratic concepts of its day, the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution is perhaps the clearest legal/constitutional expression of this principle, and as such, I think, is one of the most radical statutes in the world.

The question of gun rights is a political question, in the broad sense that it touches on the distribution of power in a polity. Thus, although it incorporates all these perfectly legitimate “sub-political” activities, it is not fundamentally about hunting, or collecting, or target practice; it is about empowering the citizen relative to the state. Denying the importance of, or even refusing to understand, this fundamental point of the Second Amendment right, and sneering at people who do, symptomizes a politics of paternalist statism – not (actually the opposite of) a politics of revolutionary liberation.

I’ll pause right here. For me, and for most supporters of gun rights, however inartfully they may put it, this is the core issue. To have an honest discussion of what’s at stake when we talk about “gun rights,” “gun control,” etc., everyone has to know, and acknowledge, his/her position on this fundamental political principle. Do you hold that the right to possess firearms is a fundamental political right?

If you do, then you are ascribing it a strong positive value, you will be predisposed to favor its extension to all citizens, you will consider whatever “regulations” you think are necessary (because some might be) with the greatest circumspection (because those “regulations” are limitations on a right, and rights, though never as absolute as we may like, are to be cherished), you will never seek, overtly or surreptitiously, to eliminate that right entirely – and your discourse will reflect all of that. If you understand gun ownership as a political right, then, for you, if there weren’t a second amendment, there should be.

If, on the other hand, you do not hold that the right to possess firearms is a fundamental political right, if you think it is some kind of luxury or peculiarity or special prerogative, then, of course, you really won’t give a damn about how restricted that non-right is, or whether it is ignored or eliminated altogether. If you reject, or don’t understand, gun ownership as a political right, then you probably think the Second Amendment should never have been.


It is my perception, based on public evidence, as well as countless conversations on the subject, that the latter position is that of most self-identified American liberals. However they may occasionally, tactically, craft their discourse to pretend, for an audience that does value the right of citizens to arm themselves, that they too value that right, most American liberals just do not. They do not even understand why it should be considered a right at all, in the sense elaborated above. They would love to restrict it as much as possible, and they would just as soon be done with the American constitutional guarantee of that right, the Second Amendment, which they see as some kind of embarrassing anachronism.

Continued at [link to www.thepolemicist.net]
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Preaching to the choir, ET...
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I thought that maybe a Progressive would chime in and try to explain why he or she prefers that the State should hold the monopoly on power.
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Pin it!!!

The left of today is not te same as yesterday!

Gun ownership is a symbol of radical equality with the state!
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I thought that maybe a Progressive would chime in and try to explain why he or she prefers that the State should hold the monopoly on power.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Because they are scared little kiddies, and want Nana to change their nappies from cradle to grave?
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I thought that maybe a Progressive would chime in and try to explain why he or she prefers that the State should hold the monopoly on power.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Because they are scared little kiddies, and want Nana to change their nappies from cradle to grave?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I reckon so...
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I thought that maybe a Progressive would chime in and try to explain why he or she prefers that the State should hold the monopoly on power.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Because they are scared little kiddies, and want Nana to change their nappies from cradle to grave?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I reckon so...
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


It always makes me wonder too...

I do not understand why anyone can believe that disarming someone 'makes them safer'...

I also don't understand how they ignore facts like below when they are spelled out for them:

[link to online.wsj.com]
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For me it is just the ethical principle that you can not victimise people by law who would be perfectly able to responsibly protect themselves and others.
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What idiot would not understand that the second amendment WAS WRITTEN BY LIBERALS. What is the root meaning of liberal? It is LIBERTY!

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I thought that maybe a Progressive would chime in and try to explain why he or she prefers that the State should hold the monopoly on power.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


It's the victory of the state over their helplessness. The system coerced their weak minds into destitution. Now that same system welds power over them with empty suits and promises of "hope and change".

Instead of teaching them to fish, the system has been spoon feeding them since the great depression. Many were capable of escaping this path...others lacked the ingenuity to maneuver their way back to freedom.

They are the epitome of zombification.

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