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Russian meteorite is part of the DA14 asteroid, according to Spanish astronomers

 
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Gracias!!

The 2012 DA14 is being followed precisely and both NASA astronomers have ruled specialists that may collide with Earth, while not expected Siberia. "It may be a coincidence, but the probability that one has to do with another is high, it may be a piece that goes in the same orbit," said the engineer Belló Miguel Mora, orbital dynamics experts.

"It's a very slow fireball, from what I've seen in videos of the event, and also the 2012 DA14 is slow, so I suspect it could be related given the geometry and speed," says astronomer Josep Maria Wheat, CSIC scientist at the Institute of Space Sciences in Barcelona. "Of course it is much smaller than the asteroid that happen tonight." They could be related, suggests, because they are able to release shiny 2012 DA14 for its same rotation and the gravitational effect approaching the Earth and has happened before. "In a few weeks we can define the path of this fireball analyzing the videos, it is difficult, because it is diurnal and have the background stars to do the calculations, but not impossible."

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Wasn't there a thread that DA2012 had companions?
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well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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I hope your wrong hf
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me too and I also hope Spanish astronomers are wrong peace
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Wasn't there a thread that DA2012 had companions?
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don't know if it was here, but James McCanney had said that companions to the asteroid were discernible. Heard some folks talking about it. Looks like he scores another 2 points.

Didn't hear of any "official" entities suggesting this, but also didn't go looking for it.
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It's too big of a coincidence not to be related.
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well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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if this was part of DA14 then there is not much left of it
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well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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That's correct. I think that even if the DA14 asteroid is on collision with earth, it will disintegrate once it goes through our atmosphere. But still can cause significant damage just as this little fragment has caused.... we'll see what happens tonight. PPL in Russia, look up at the skies tonight.
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it depend if that piece broke before the main DA14 was observed and assessed or after...
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now this is so plausible and makes so much sense... ;)
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just in from El Pais of Madrid
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Whaddya know? Mexicans saving the day!

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well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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London?
Or (maybe worst), Atlantic or North Sea = tsunami.
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No bueno, no bueno. Good article, seemed sensible.
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Re: Russian meteorite is part of the DA14 asteroid, according to Spanish astronomers
'"It's a very slow fireball, from what I've seen in videos of the event, and also the 2012 DA14 is slow, so I suspect it could be related given the geometry and speed," says astronomer Josep Maria Wheat, CSIC scientist at the Institute of Space Sciences in Barcelona.'


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Pin this!!! WE have professional astronomers saying "likely related"!


This is HUGE!
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Re: Russian meteorite is part of the DA14 asteroid, according to Spanish astronomers
well from my physic knowledge if a body in space even disintegrate or divide in few pieces all pieces paths are the same of the initial body path... if this is true then if is also true that it was a piece of DA14 this mean that rest of it will hit northern hemisphere with similar latitude?
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I hope your wrong hf
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Well, probably not as the split off of one from the other would perturb the trajectory sufficiently, and also the earth is rotating so a different face of the planet will be presenting. Our orbital tilt would make slight difference in latitude.

However, we don't know if the two are just travelling together or if they were once part of each other. It would make a difference. If they were originally one asteroid and recently split, the cue-ball effect might actually change the trajectory of the larger asteroid and cause a direct hit of earth in the next few hours.

I guess we will see what happens.
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'"It's a very slow fireball, from what I've seen in videos of the event, and also the 2012 DA14 is slow, so I suspect it could be related given the geometry and speed," says astronomer Josep Maria Wheat, CSIC scientist at the Institute of Space Sciences in Barcelona.'


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Right!!!!

FINALLY, some real reporting! All of these MSM outlets are blindly letting the "astronomers" BS them to believing this thing hit the earth traveling 30,000 KM per SECOND !!!

OK then, EXPLAIN these videos. Sure, that sucker is moving along. But for sure no 30,000 KM per second!
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Astronomer Josep Maria Wheat, CSIC scientist at the Institute of Space Sciences in Barcelona.
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Logis says it's related. What are the odds people?!

The most significant "pass" and "hit" happening the same day!
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Logis says it's related. What are the odds people?!

The most significant "pass" and "hit" happening the same day!
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Logic, that is.
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Re: Russian meteorite is part of the DA14 asteroid, according to Spanish astronomers
So let's assume that the meteorite WAS INDEED part of DA14 then answer me this:

How can such a piece detach, accelarate to a speed such as to arrive on Earth/Earth's orbit 12 hours EARLIER than DA14 ?

Wouldn't a detached peace loose speed since the moment of detachment from DA14 and HOWEVER follow (rather than precurse) its very same orbit/path ?
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'"It's a very slow fireball, from what I've seen in videos of the event, and also the 2012 DA14 is slow, so I suspect it could be related given the geometry and speed," says astronomer Josep Maria Wheat, CSIC scientist at the Institute of Space Sciences in Barcelona.'


!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194596


Right!!!!

FINALLY, some real reporting! All of these MSM outlets are blindly letting the "astronomers" BS them to believing this thing hit the earth traveling 30,000 KM per SECOND !!!

OK then, EXPLAIN these videos. Sure, that sucker is moving along. But for sure no 30,000 KM per second!
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Ask astronomer Wheat.
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it only makes sense.

Spanish astronomers = truth.
NASA = lies.
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"While all the world is watching the asteroid 2012 DA14, about 50 meters in diameter, will pass close to Earth tonight , other stones are ahead of the sky falling on Siberia . It is not the same object, but experts do not yet know if they can be related, because the Siberian meteorite may be a fragment of the asteroid that fell off."


Opening paragraph of that article.

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