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FEDS RESPOND: Why Is Homeland Security Buying So Many Bullets? And the answer is BULLSH*T!!!!!!

 
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FEDS RESPOND: Why Is Homeland Security Buying So Many Bullets? And the answer is BULLSH*T!!!!!!
Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of.

The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them -- roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States -- for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.

Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That's when conservative radio host (you know who) spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the government was "gearing up for total collapse, they're gearing up for huge wars."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]


The government's explanation is much less sinister.

Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year.

The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government's second largest criminal investigative agency.

ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included:

--450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition

--40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds

--176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract

--25,000 blank rounds

The Homeland Security ammo buy is not the first time the government's bullets purchases have sparked concerns on the Internet. The same thing happened last year when the Social Security Administration posted a notice that it was buying 174,000 hollow point bullets.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

-George Washington
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Re: FEDS RESPOND: Why Is Homeland Security Buying So Many Bullets? And the answer is BULLSH*T!!!!!!
The more you spend the more you save! And you get extra coupons with your purchase!
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To shoot down incoming meteors?
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so this is how I interpret that ... PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM TOO STUPID to follow what I THINK I read...

they bought them cheap so that WE can buy them when the price was RAISED by them SHORTING the supply, and then they take them BACK from us

Did I miss anything?
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The more you spend the more you save! And you get extra coupons with your purchase!
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the manufacturers should stop supplying them to military if they stop letting us buy them.
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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so this is how I interpret that ... PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM TOO STUPID to follow what I THINK I read...

they bought them cheap so that WE can buy them when the price was RAISED by them SHORTING the supply, and then they take them BACK from us

Did I miss anything?
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Nope not all lol while i cant find a fuckin box of 9mm they are buying millions, hmmmmmmmmm
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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But we are the crazy ones right?

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Considering how many bullets were used on Dorner, they may need more.
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But we are the crazy ones right?

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exactly, and the numbers they put above are only from ONE purchase order, the total is 2 billion not a few million, more deception!
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Considering how many bullets were used on Dorner, they may need more.
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That was not for "training" as stated. Also, i doubt they wasted more than a 1,000 rounds in the shootout. But they may need more bullets to shoot old women in trucks that dont even fit the description of his
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Wtf...

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The only bullshit here is this post. We all know they never lie. Not one single dime ....
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To shoot down incoming meteors?
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LOL
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga .

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Since when are the feds interested in saving money on anything? Anything at all?

I call bullshit on her statement.
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SO THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE BUYING HOLLOW POINTS???
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They are buying them up, so you can't?!?!?!?
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There math doesn't add up. 15 million used for training yet they want 750 million in the next 5 years. At 15 million rds that 750 million should last you fifty years. They oredered ten times their normally would use.
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To protect THEM from US. Collapse is coming soon, potential angry masses must be disarmed first while still too comfy to think about deposing tyrants.

The tribulation ENDS in December 2019

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Considering how many bullets were used on Dorner, they may need more.
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ikr. these guys have no idea 10's of millions of us have been familiar with firearms from an early age. we need one per fed. they need 500 per us.
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Thunderdome prep...

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Re: FEDS RESPOND: Why Is Homeland Security Buying So Many Bullets? And the answer is BULLSH*T!!!!!!
Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of.

The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them -- roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States -- for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.

Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That's when conservative radio host (you know who) spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the government was "gearing up for total collapse, they're gearing up for huge wars."

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]


The government's explanation is much less sinister.

Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year.

The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government's second largest criminal investigative agency.

ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included:

--450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition

--40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds

--176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract

--25,000 blank rounds

The Homeland Security ammo buy is not the first time the government's bullets purchases have sparked concerns on the Internet. The same thing happened last year when the Social Security Administration posted a notice that it was buying 174,000 hollow point bullets.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

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Why does NOAH have to buy bullets? They are only concerned with weather.
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SO THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE BUYING HOLLOW POINTS???
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To make sure that the paper targets they are shooting at during training get killed properly.
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Re: FEDS RESPOND: Why Is Homeland Security Buying So Many Bullets? And the answer is BULLSH*T!!!!!!
Using the 1.6b cartridges purchased, dividing that by 70'000 fed goons 'training' at the facilities referenced, comes out to 22,857.1 rounds per agent.

1.6b/70k= 22,857.143rds/Agent

I think that makes them all terrorist who are stockpiling ammunition according to their own training manuals.
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Translation, Obama plans to silence those who expose the Democrats and RINO Republicans pilfering and systematic dismantling of The United States of America as a world power so as to create a New World Order ruled by a few elites that persecute Christians and prevents the right to bear arms!

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