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Fuck computer programming as a career

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/23/2013 09:59 AM
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Screw programming. I originally started off going to school for programming and found out real fast that I would not do that for a living.
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same here, but i'm still stuck paying back college loans.
what a waste
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02/23/2013 11:19 AM
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You need to learn some SAP skills.. you will get 120 bucks/hour.
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02/23/2013 11:21 AM
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I was just asked to upgrade a 1999 Borland C++ Build 3 app to work outside of a virtual XP environment and to work in Windows 7. Told them that they need to re-write the entire app for 100K minimum. They balked of course.

Original programmer could do it for cheaper, I know, but he refuses to touch it. That is a warning flag for this old dude!
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First rule of programming: In the end the code will always have taken at least 3 times the programming hours you originally thought you'd need.

So either ask for 300k or spare yourself the hassle...
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Oh I did. I have been burned one time too many and learned my lesson a long time ago.
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02/23/2013 11:26 AM
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OP

contract yourself out

you can set you own jobs ; turn down jobs you don't like

and set your own pay rate....

If you have this much experience

I would be researching what you need to do to work for yourself doing contract jobs

you would be surprised I bet at how much work there is out there for independent contractors in that field

If you know a particular code really well....

write a book on it

Like '***** for dummies....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Computer programmer 'outsourced job to China'
A US computer programmer has been allegedly caught spending thousands of dollars to outsource his own job to a company in China.

The software developer, who is in his 40s, is said to have paid a Chinese firm a fifth of his six-figure salary to do his job for him while he spent his working days surfing the internet.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: GFX guy


HaHaHa that is fucking hilarious... sounds like a sub-plot of a farrelly brothers movie!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 799871


I am in business for myself and outsource to foreigners all of the time. Sending it to China pretty much guarantees a back door.

When I do it, I only hand out small tasks of an overall larger project. I then review each line of code.

Then I put it together.

Quicker turnaround and more money in my pocket with less stress.

The guy in this example was lazy and deserved to get burned.
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02/23/2013 11:27 AM
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Screw programming. I originally started off going to school for programming and found out real fast that I would not do that for a living.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


same here, but i'm still stuck paying back college loans.
what a waste
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1616631


Programming school? BUWHAHAHAHAH. Taught by fuckups who could not do the job.

If you pay for training, forget about it. You will learn more on your own.
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02/23/2013 11:28 AM
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You need to learn some SAP skills.. you will get 120 bucks/hour.
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SAP is an appropriate word!
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02/23/2013 11:51 AM
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One possible solution for programmers is to leave the software development side and go into the industrial side. The industrial automation industry is always looking for talent, and it can be more rewarding when your code makes something move, light up, and do actual work.

Much like development, you'll have to learn new obscure languages and equipment. However, once you have enough specialized knowledge and background, you can strike out on your own as a consultant or service provider, and charge the shit out of companies who are using legacy equipment only you know about. I see it every day from the other side of the table.

It's not easy, and it's not for everyone, but it is an option for those burnt out in their current programming profession.
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02/23/2013 12:21 PM
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Took me a while but I think programming (languages) is an art without value not to be confused with marketable software development skills. It only matters to programmers that someone else is a developed coder otherwise money is the translator.
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02/23/2013 12:22 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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02/23/2013 12:28 PM
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if you want to make east money with computer science, you don't have a lot of options:

either you get exceptionally good at something. which won't be easy since a lot of people got into computers during the last decades.

of either you find yourself a niche specialty, working with either obscure or legacy equipment. a little searching and feeling around in the industry, can find you boatloads of specialties where people are paid small fortunes to do their magic.
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02/23/2013 12:43 PM
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if you want to make east money with computer science, you don't have a lot of options:

either you get exceptionally good at something. which won't be easy since a lot of people got into computers during the last decades.

of either you find yourself a niche specialty, working with either obscure or legacy equipment. a little searching and feeling around in the industry, can find you boatloads of specialties where people are paid small fortunes to do their magic.
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So wrong, there is a huge shortage of IT personnel, not enough kids are deciding to choose for an IT education. On the other hand there are more and more processes being automated.

Read this for proof of what i just said:
[link to europa.eu]

Here in the Netherlands when you just finished your masters degree in IT you will be able to choose between shitloads of companies, starting salary somewhere between 2500/3000 euros a month ex. fees and stuff.
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02/23/2013 12:46 PM
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So wrong, there is a huge shortage of IT personnel, not enough kids are deciding to choose for an IT education. On the other hand there are more and more processes being automated.

Read this for proof of what i just said:
[link to europa.eu]

Here in the Netherlands when you just finished your masters degree in IT you will be able to choose between shitloads of companies, starting salary somewhere between 2500/3000 euros a month ex. fees and stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884

that is a normal salary for a starter with a master, in a large corporation. but that is far from an small fortune.
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Time to revive this thread. FUCK computer programming is right!

Sweat shops for yuppies! I have worked for myself, worked for small firms, and large corporations.

Working for myself, they never leave you alone. They want you to be a fucking mind reader and when you invoice them for your billable hours they balk and say well I didn't think when I told you to change/add/fix it, that it would cost more. blah blah blah. Fuck off!

Small firms expect you to work 80 hours per week for a steady pay worth 40 hours per week. FUCK them and their rah rah, small startup requires sacrifice for the team to succeed. Our success is your success - oh go fuck yourself you egotisical cocksucker!

Then the large sweat shops. You really are a fucking number. They just want you to meet that fucking deadline whether it works or not. They don't care.

FUCK COMPUTER PROGRAMMING! You fuckers threaten me with using the online programming factory farms in India. Saying that I can be replaced by a guy with a PhD in Computer Science to do your work for $10 per hour.

Have fun with the language barrier and trying to figure out their code. Also when they had you to their email spam list and embed something malicious in your code, I will be thinking of you laughing my fucking ass off.

Since I got out and started my own heath food and natural supplements business, I have never looked back. I barely work and have my peace of mind back.

YEAH!

FUCK THE CLIENTS
FUCK THE BOSSES
FUCK THE FOREIGN FACTORY FARMS
FUCK COMPUTER PROGRAMMING!

WOW. Now I feel much better!
Anonymous Coward
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03/08/2013 02:03 PM
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I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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Your problem is not programming, its the corporate software industry. Its sucking your creative juices out of you.

Just tell them fuck off, and go out on your own, and start your own software project. Be free, be creative.
Anonymous Coward
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04/07/2013 11:02 PM
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I quit after 23 years. Best move that I have ever made.
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04/07/2013 11:05 PM
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going to jump ship soon - not worth it
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04/07/2013 11:20 PM
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After ed everything went down hill.
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04/07/2013 11:47 PM
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They claim they want it faster and cheaper, they just want it bloated and slower so hardware sales will go up.

Imagine the speed we could have today if we optimized to the 80 and 90s standards when hardware was uber weak.
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As a developer who abides by the Ethical code for programmers mine does. I refuse to push crap code out the door. All of mine is standardized optimized and strives to not cause harm. For me it is an art form that must be practiced. Good code is readable (mutable), efficient (maintainable), pleasing to the eye when both executed and read (mindful)
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04/01/2014 01:50 PM
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I've been a developer for right at 20 years (this May), and I agree totally.

The pace of change, the deadlines, dysfunctional corporations, and for the past few years daily stand up meetings - what did you do yeasterday, what are you going to do today, do you have any impediments? Ad nauseum.

Fuck it. I'm DONE with it.

At 43 I'm changing careers to nursing. I've heard there's a lot of burn-out there too, but I've always wanted to be a nurse. I almost went into nursing when I (mistakenly) chose CS as a major.
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hesright

clappa
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04/01/2014 02:00 PM
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Learn to program for Android. Make a few apps or games. Enjoy revenue stream.
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04/01/2014 02:03 PM
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Make some apps for yourself!

I have a friend who made an app to track parents kids and texts without the kids knowing about it....He has made big bank!

Make some games that are free, but with add ons that cost money!

Make something that you like, and need!

someone already made an app that connects all conspiracy sites together....but it could be improved.

Just because someone has made an app doesn't mean that it's good, or can't be improved upon. Look for that if you need ideas.
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04/01/2014 02:05 PM
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Fuck computer programming as a career
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


Excellent rant, do you feel better now?

:)

Free Planet
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04/01/2014 02:07 PM

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OP if you dont get back to work, how can the boss retire to dubai with a private yacht???

Now back to work!
Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with!
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04/01/2014 02:08 PM
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Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.


REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q)
Practise makes perfect, if the thing you are practising is perfect to begin with!
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Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


congrats :)

I was in your shoes 10 yrs ago
and left.

but O'bammie will train you for
another job in a different career

and the next prez will do the same thing

and the next

suddenly, you realize you got old
and never had a steady career in your
whole life and your only retirement
comes in the form of a SS check
which most can't live on.

then you go on welfare to eat

while the CEO of that company you worked
for is enjoying caviar and his 3rd vacation
home in the Caymens

then you realize, it was YOUR hard work
that put him into the elite status.

then you get pissed at yourself for being
stupid enough to work your ass off all
your life just so somebody else could
profit off your labor.

suddenly you realize you were born
into slavery

and now your pissed

this is how Revolutions start ;)
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^this^
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
LibertyRises

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Programmer here too but none of this bothers me, it's how I make a living. Ya, it can get annoying and seem monotonous at times, but maybe you just need to move on to a different project or change things up a bit somehow!
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04/01/2014 02:36 PM
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I feel ya brother.

I could not really give a shit if someone "lost" their damn toolbar.
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04/01/2014 02:40 PM
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Programmer here too but none of this bothers me, it's how I make a living. Ya, it can get annoying and seem monotonous at times, but maybe you just need to move on to a different project or change things up a bit somehow!
 Quoting: LibertyRises


Right now where I am most IT people are sort of stuck in their jobs. The economy isn't so great and most programmers are clinging to their current jobs - hesitant to make a jump in an uncertain job market.

New technology, learn this amazing new framework which will solve all of your problems, I need this (2-3 weeks worth of work) project done yesterday - I don't care if you work 20 hours a day for two weeks, what have you done for me lately, is it done yet...

After a couple decades, it do get old.
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04/02/2014 06:08 AM
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Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.


REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q)
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FUCKING QUIT THAT SHIT! yodaredfaceburnitburnit

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