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OP

contract yourself out

you can set you own jobs ; turn down jobs you don't like

and set your own pay rate....

If you have this much experience

I would be researching what you need to do to work for yourself doing contract jobs

you would be surprised I bet at how much work there is out there for independent contractors in that field

If you know a particular code really well....

write a book on it

Like '***** for dummies....
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True that! I've worked all over contracting in computers and been paid well for it too. No politics to deal with and if things get shitty you can move along!
When you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
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I'm glad I never learned it... I did take a 3D game programming course but quickly realized I could never do it.

It seemed too complicated, too quickly evolving...

Then, I saw news that they could transform a 3D picture of some object and program it in a game... Technology is moving that fast.

I'm beginning to think the Luddites were right.

There's just the overwhelming demand for faster and faster things, for better technology but where is all that progress getting us?

They said technology would make life easier but I've come to the realization that it's just not true.
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I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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No worries, you'll be training Raj soon.
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OP is right, the USA tech sector has been destroyed for ten years. At first I was surprised but now I see that before PCs ever were born, the evil shits knew they would control the PC game. Even before there was Microsoft, there was the end of all computing, forseen, by asshead corporate boards, and their grandfathers who were also assholes.

Databases are like radioactive waste, in truth.

So yeah, OP is right, just walk away and let it crash and burn or make a few bucks at it until then. In the end, the databases win, that means Al Qaeda, built by those who build databases.

What are you gonna do now to make ends meet?
Here's some options based on your 10 years of industry experience.
1. Barrista (good job, it's warm in coffee shops)
2. Park Labourer
3. Snow Shoveler (outside fresh air, seasonal)
4. Plant Trees (if you're fit and go for it all spring, summer & fall, you can make enough to sit on a beach all winter long)
5. Criminal

I think that pretty much covers it.
Any one else got suggestions for OP?
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I get more satisfaction from fixing laptops and pc's than I ever did programming.
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programmers aren't well paid, and you spend too many hours of works not paid

i quit my php dev job at the end of 2012, won't do it again. i'm too old for this bullsh1t
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Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.
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congrats :)

I was in your shoes 10 yrs ago
and left.

but O'bammie will train you for
another job in a different career

and the next prez will do the same thing

and the next

suddenly, you realize you got old
and never had a steady career in your
whole life and your only retirement
comes in the form of a SS check
which most can't live on.

then you go on welfare to eat

while the CEO of that company you worked
for is enjoying caviar and his 3rd vacation
home in the Caymens

then you realize, it was YOUR hard work
that put him into the elite status.

then you get pissed at yourself for being
stupid enough to work your ass off all
your life just so somebody else could
profit off your labor.

suddenly you realize you were born
into slavery

and now your pissed

this is how Revolutions start ;)
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That fing CEO will die early from heart disease or diabetes

because he stuffs his fat face all day and thinks golfing is exercise when he uses his golf cart

so, the CEO dies at 59 instead of living on and enjoying his

stolen cash

and the worker decides he has had enough and writes his own

book

and opens his own contracting business....

and lives til he is 99 in pretty good health

this is how

Human Revolutions are made using God given human creativity to get out from under the yolk

of corporate evil....
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I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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Ha Slaves of the system are just starting o realize why they are alive...
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OP

contract yourself out

you can set you own jobs ; turn down jobs you don't like

and set your own pay rate....

If you have this much experience

I would be researching what you need to do to work for yourself doing contract jobs

you would be surprised I bet at how much work there is out there for independent contractors in that field

If you know a particular code really well....

write a book on it

Like '***** for dummies....
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Computer programmer 'outsourced job to China'
A US computer programmer has been allegedly caught spending thousands of dollars to outsource his own job to a company in China.

The software developer, who is in his 40s, is said to have paid a Chinese firm a fifth of his six-figure salary to do his job for him while he spent his working days surfing the internet.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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No worries, you'll be training Raj soon.
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Kumar
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Sri
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Engineer here.

Love my job.

Couldn't spend all day in front of a computer or in an office.
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blackcat My father bought a freezer in 1945, it was still going strong when he died in 2002.
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You got it...

I once was a programmer too and hated it. It's like prostituting you brain power for irrelevant shit. Worst were the debugging sessions: Looking for countless hours for a tiny error in Python code. At the end of such a day I always had the feeling of total exhaustion without really having done anything worthwhile.

And as a programmer, you never get valued for what you make the code do. But it's guaranteed some computer-dense boss bitches about what the code yet cannot do.
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This is absolutely spot on. I assume it's exactly the way a whore feels after a long day of being fucked by strangers.

Sure, there's some money in your pocket at the end of the day but the body part you are whoring out is dull and numb and you have an absolute hole in your soul where you would normally expect a feeling of accomplishment after such a long day of work.
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What the fuck? If you've been programming for so long, odds are you are quite competent. You bitch and moan, and the thought NEVER crossed your mind to program an application for yourself that you yourself sell?

START YOUR OWN BUSINESS FOR FUCK SAKE!! Quit having the slave mentality and work for yourself. I'll bet there are thousands of programs/applications you can make right now that will sell like hotcakes.
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What are you gonna do now to make ends meet?
Here's some options based on your 10 years of industry experience.
1. Barrista (good job, it's warm in coffee shops)
2. Park Labourer
3. Snow Shoveler (outside fresh air, seasonal)
4. Plant Trees (if you're fit and go for it all spring, summer & fall, you can make enough to sit on a beach all winter long)
5. Criminal

I think that pretty much covers it.
Any one else got suggestions for OP?

I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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lmao
"Thou we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven that which we are, we are.
One equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield"
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I like telling this story when I was in school trying to be a usefull idiot for the system.

I was in visual basic and the instructor was a total asshole. He thought he was a code god who must be worshipped by all HIS students.

I'm not like that and it shows right up front. This freak show would teach a little of this and that then ask, any questions. No one would ask becaue the bastard would insult you with redicule and disgrace cause he knew it and you little fuckers know nothing so now bow down and kiss my ass you little punks.

ANYWAY, where was I, oh ya, He would go, if no questions then I guess you know it. Well no you dim fuck, we don't and if you wouldn't insult questioners when asking a question, you would find out your an idiot.

Finally after everybody agreed we have to tell this pompous ass why no questions, we elected a spoke person to tell this dim witted array of vb6 snippets to back down.

So, we get him straight on that when we have questions, he leaves the room and we write the Q's on the chalk board. Ya know, that fucker still insulted the questions when he read them off the board.

He had a club of the brightest students who met and if you were not part of his club you were a turd to be toyed with. He later tells us if we want to work in this field we have to get along with him cause he knows all the employers who will be hiring us when were done here.

The fucking gaul of that pretentious lizard.

I finished that class and coded some vb apps on my own. I think I did around 20 programs for download. I asked him once about how to do something in vb and he pretty much told me you can't do that.

When I am told you can't do that, I do anyway. Thats how my world works.
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Cheers OP was about to start learning C# so I'll stay as a techie for now why I figure out my next move.
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What are you gonna do now to make ends meet?
Here's some options based on your 10 years of industry experience.
1. Barrista (good job, it's warm in coffee shops)
2. Park Labourer
3. Snow Shoveler (outside fresh air, seasonal)
4. Plant Trees (if you're fit and go for it all spring, summer & fall, you can make enough to sit on a beach all winter long)
5. Criminal

I think that pretty much covers it.
Any one else got suggestions for OP?

 Quoting: Irradiated Fish Dish 18234481


Yes - graphic design. NOT website design, because that's mostly the same shit as programming.

I found that by designing flyers, posters, booklets, cards and so on you get more positive customer feedback per day than you get in a year when working as a programmer.

People still love printed paper. It's a creative job you can do self-employed and its basics are easy to learn.
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Job requirements

extensive asp.net
c# and vb
mvc - MUST HAVE
html
css
java
javascript
jquery
php
ruby on rails
write advanced stored procedures and triggers in sql
MUST HAVE AGILE/SCRUM EXPERIENCE
cold fusion, MUST BE EXPERT




Fuck it, i agree..
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wow maybe some of you guys ought to come to georgia... they take what they can get - lol

I know C# i dont do VB hate it
good on MVC/html/css/javascript/jquery -

dont know ruby

confused as to why a job would have you know asp and php as a requirement? unless you are trying to work for a development company - and why anyone would work for those is beyond me....
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programmers aren't well paid, and you spend too many hours of works not paid

i quit my php dev job at the end of 2012, won't do it again. i'm too old for this bullsh1t
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Have you ever looked at a developers Salary in the Silicon Valley? Check sometime you'd change your statement saying they aren't paid well.
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I'm sick and tired of it. I've been programming now for well over a decade and I simply can not write another god damned line of code. It's the same shit over and over again. Make it faster, make it cheaper, make it faster, make it cheaper is all you fucking hear at work and all you see in job postings.

Why in the fuck does any of it matter? Let's run on a treadmill our entire lives so people can have a fucking faster smartphone. Fuck them.

Let's spend hundreds of billions of dollars so algorithms can trade a few microseconds faster. Fuck it.

Let's waste countless man years so the corners of windows are curved and semi-transparent because that shit really matters. Fuck it all.

Let's rewrite the same website infrastrucure in a the latest fad language every couple of years so we all can pretend to be busy bees. Fuck that.

Is there any way out of this treadmill of a life? I highly doubt it. Mankind won't stop in this path to exponential insanity until we are left with nothing but a smouldering pile of ruins we once called civilization.

People can barely keep up with their workload at the office and all the chores at home yet every day you get to work and it's MOAR MOAR MOAR.

And you know what? It's the 0.1% at the top that are *demanding* that every single thing below them cut costs, increase efficiency all so they can see a little MOAR money that they did the month before. Can they even spend the money they make? No, but they still need MOAR and it will come out of your SOUL!
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Dude! Focus only on your career. Looks like its time you changed it. There are people whose job for the past ten yeas has been to give injections, take blood tests, drive a taxi or flip burgers.

If you dont like your career, its no one else's fault. Whats the top 1% got to do with your own personal career choices? did they force you to become a programmer? No!

So change your career.

Here's something for you to read. People who changed their careers and became successful and happy.

[link to www.11points.com]

Good luck!
hf
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Cash out and live off the Land
if you have the balls
be a real man.
Raise Bison. F IT.
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What are you gonna do now to make ends meet?
Here's some options based on your 10 years of industry experience.
1. Barrista (good job, it's warm in coffee shops)
2. Park Labourer
3. Snow Shoveler (outside fresh air, seasonal)
4. Plant Trees (if you're fit and go for it all spring, summer & fall, you can make enough to sit on a beach all winter long)
5. Criminal

I think that pretty much covers it.
Any one else got suggestions for OP?

 Quoting: Irradiated Fish Dish 18234481


Yes - graphic design. NOT website design, because that's mostly the same shit as programming.

I found that by designing flyers, posters, booklets, cards and so on you get more positive customer feedback per day than you get in a year when working as a programmer.

People still love printed paper. It's a creative job you can do self-employed and its basics are easy to learn.
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I do both - love it- takes the edge off...
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I like telling this story when I was in school trying to be a usefull idiot for the system.

I was in visual basic and the instructor was a total asshole. He thought he was a code god who must be worshipped by all HIS students.

I'm not like that and it shows right up front. This freak show would teach a little of this and that then ask, any questions. No one would ask becaue the bastard would insult you with redicule and disgrace cause he knew it and you little fuckers know nothing so now bow down and kiss my ass you little punks.

ANYWAY, where was I, oh ya, He would go, if no questions then I guess you know it. Well no you dim fuck, we don't and if you wouldn't insult questioners when asking a question, you would find out your an idiot.

Finally after everybody agreed we have to tell this pompous ass why no questions, we elected a spoke person to tell this dim witted array of vb6 snippets to back down.

So, we get him straight on that when we have questions, he leaves the room and we write the Q's on the chalk board. Ya know, that fucker still insulted the questions when he read them off the board.

He had a club of the brightest students who met and if you were not part of his club you were a turd to be toyed with. He later tells us if we want to work in this field we have to get along with him cause he knows all the employers who will be hiring us when were done here.

The fucking gaul of that pretentious lizard.

I finished that class and coded some vb apps on my own. I think I did around 20 programs for download. I asked him once about how to do something in vb and he pretty much told me you can't do that.

When I am told you can't do that, I do anyway. Thats how my world works.
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If the self appointed god is still trying to teach visual basic

he is eating out of dumpster today!!
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More. More. More. TIme .01 percent to be eaten alive.
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COBOL
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You will never get rich programming.

Focus on quality of life.

Learn to live on less.

Give everything up. Start over.

You survived being broke before...
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programmers aren't well paid, and you spend too many hours of works not paid

i quit my php dev job at the end of 2012, won't do it again. i'm too old for this bullsh1t
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Have you ever looked at a developers Salary in the Silicon Valley? Check sometime you'd change your statement saying they aren't paid well.
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programmers aren't WELL PAID??? where do you live????


smh....

I find it hard to believe some of you get out very often.... myself and all my developer colleagues make excellent money - again WHERE ARE YOU???
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programmers aren't well paid, and you spend too many hours of works not paid

i quit my php dev job at the end of 2012, won't do it again. i'm too old for this bullsh1t
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Have you ever looked at a developers Salary in the Silicon Valley? Check sometime you'd change your statement saying they aren't paid well.
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french devs are like paid 1000 euro per month and they have to move to china to work, pretty pathetic.
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Yeah, we need more intelligent optimizer compiler/profilers.

I don't care if it takes 10 steps as long as the code is tight as if it were manually written in assembly. I would like to see some intelligence automation analysis in the compiler to structure and reuse source code into procedural modules and self document. So sloppy coders are not a issue anymore.

Computer aided software engineering! CASE, it supposed to work.
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Have another field of expertise to lean on. I do programming and I do another profession.

Works great. When I get sick of one, I can do the other.

Also when someone wants it cheaper I say here is my price, take it or leave it. They know I do good work so they pay most times.

I have not been without work since 1999 and I dictate the price to everyone.

Fuck them.

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