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Why Wont Chirstians Respond To This?

 
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OP there's so much stupid jumbled up in your one little paragraph that its hard to figure out where to start.
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Then start with the first thing that is stupid? Are you really to stupid toto dispute me one sentence at a time if thats what you have to do?
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What was your question? You made a statement.
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
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GOD did not send Satan to earth to send us to Hell....

He created us for a relationship with him, Satan still had free will to roam....

But let's go with what you just said for a minute...

Say GOD just obliterated Satan then created us and we never knew that evil or dis-obedience existed what would of that done to the *Balance* of the Universe?

Remember Satan had already deceived 1/3 of GOD's divine angels to follow him....

So now before we were created there was an im-balance in the universe because of the rebellion...


GOD first had to show the Created beings in the Universe what rebellion created...Remember GOD is a GOD of love and wisdom, he expects all of his creation to understand his wisdom because in that we find his Eternal Love for what he created...

There is an animated Youtube Video called the Cosmic Conflict, it gives you a good analogy of how EVIL came to be..

Here is part one

THE ORIGIN OF EVIL

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Than why is satan able to corrupt us and why was he able to give us original sin?
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OP there's so much stupid jumbled up in your one little paragraph that its hard to figure out where to start.
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Then start with the first thing that is stupid? Are you really to stupid toto dispute me one sentence at a time if thats what you have to do?
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What was your question? You made a statement.
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this is funny
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
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you are so far off, i can only offer this at this time. Keep trying; some day i may have more time for you:

Jesus said to him, “‘you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
(Matthew 22:37 – 40)
Through study, you will find, in The Strong’s Concordance, the word “neighbour” means “fellow, Christian brethren”. Same with “turning the other cheek”.

Love letter:
[link to fathersloveletter.com]
[link to fathersloveletter.com]
Psalm: 139:1
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There are only two created places, heaven and earth, heaven is for holy angels, that only leaves the earth and it has a judgment date, After the 1,000 years for fallen angels and for men a few at the start of the 1,000 years and then the rest later at the GWT event.
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[link to www.alienresistance.org]
aliens are demonic

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Jesus is the Biblical Messiah.
[link to www.godonthe.net]
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No... the jewish messiach was suppoesed to assemple the ark of the covenant and take control of the planet...
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Than why is satan able to corrupt us and why was he able to give us original sin?
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Eve got her instructions from her husband Adam, that is why Satan was able to deceive her.
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No, we are to accept Christ (his son), as a substitute for our sins. What goodness? Even our good deeds are like dirty rags to a holy God.
God cannot protect us, if we reject him, as that indicates to him that we do not wish to know him.
Now, would you force someone to know and love you?
He wants to be absolutely certain of our love, as that is why he created us, because he loves us.
Yes, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, because they decided with their free will to go against God.
Lucifer wanted to be like God, and was able to assemble one third of the angels to mutiny against God. So, he was cast out to ultimately receive punishment for his betrayal.
Yes, he uses Satan to prod men from time to time to test their alleagence to him.
Ultimately, he wants mutual love between him and his creation, but he loves us far more than we could ever love him, so he will not deny us our choice.

Your spouse has a choice not to love you, but if she decides to love you...you know its genuine.
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


GOD did not send Satan to earth to send us to Hell....

He created us for a relationship with him, Satan still had free will to roam....

But let's go with what you just said for a minute...

Say GOD just obliterated Satan then created us and we never knew that evil or dis-obedience existed what would of that done to the *Balance* of the Universe?

Remember Satan had already deceived 1/3 of GOD's divine angels to follow him....

So now before we were created there was an im-balance in the universe because of the rebellion...


GOD first had to show the Created beings in the Universe what rebellion created...Remember GOD is a GOD of love and wisdom, he expects all of his creation to understand his wisdom because in that we find his Eternal Love for what he created...

There is an animated Youtube Video called the Cosmic Conflict, it gives you a good analogy of how EVIL came to be..

Here is part one

THE ORIGIN OF EVIL

[link to www.youtube.com]
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He didnt have to destroy satan... he couldve just protected us from him...
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No... the jewish messiach was suppoesed to assemple the ark of the covenant and take control of the planet...
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He increased who was in line for salvation, without the first advent only the 12 Tribes would be saved, now all of mankind is.

Isa:40:15:
Behold,
the nations are as a drop of a bucket,
and are counted as the small dust of the balance:
behold,
he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
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No, we are to accept Christ (his son), as a substitute for our sins. What goodness? Even our good deeds are like dirty rags to a holy God.
God cannot protect us, if we reject him, as that indicates to him that we do not wish to know him.
Now, would you force someone to know and love you?
He wants to be absolutely certain of our love, as that is why he created us, because he loves us.
Yes, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, because they decided with their free will to go against God.
Lucifer wanted to be like God, and was able to assemble one third of the angels to mutiny against God. So, he was cast out to ultimately receive punishment for his betrayal.
Yes, he uses Satan to prod men from time to time to test their alleagence to him.
Ultimately, he wants mutual love between him and his creation, but he loves us far more than we could ever love him, so he will not deny us our choice.

Your spouse has a choice not to love you, but if she decides to love you...you know its genuine.
 Quoting: Nobody... 1189609


Christ is god incarnate... not his son...

So he loves us unless we dont love him then he hates us and sends us to hell rather than appearing to us and showing us his beauty so that we are saved?
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I was thinking about this a couple days ago. And I remember reading in the bible that hell was not made for humans it was made for satan and his angels.

So I began to contemplate more on this:

Rat poison is made specifically for rats. The label gives the warning for humans not to ingest it. A human who does not heed the warning eats it anyways and dies. Who is at fault the creator, the
rat or the human??


The bible was given to us as instructions, warnings, blessings....of how to live a Godly happy life on Earth and also how to get to Heaven.
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He didnt have to destroy satan... he couldve just protected us from him...
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Satan and the 1/3 of the angels are immortal beings, they do not cease to be alive when sent to the fiery lake. It just won't be as much fun. Isa:65 gives a description of what hell will be like for men, that is the same as the lake will be for the fallen angels, alive but not as happy as they were.
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No... the jewish messiach was suppoesed to assemple the ark of the covenant and take control of the planet...
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He increased who was in line for salvation, without the first advent only the 12 Tribes would be saved, now all of mankind is.

Isa:40:15:
Behold,
the nations are as a drop of a bucket,
and are counted as the small dust of the balance:
behold,
he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
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Yeah all of mankind..... besides the people outside of christianity...

I have a hard time believing that same slack ass christian in america will go to heaven while a buddhist monk who dedicates his life to god will burn in hell for eternity...
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Than why is satan able to corrupt us and why was he able to give us original sin?
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Eve got her instructions from her husband Adam, that is why Satan was able to deceive her.
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Why is that any different?
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I don't have time to explain it to you, I have a job to go to, but suffice it to say that you do not understand Christian Theology. Most Christians do not understand Christian Theology.

I'll give you the shortest version I can in the time allotted:

We were higher, where God is, and he begged us not to descend, because he could not follow, lest he become corrupt by a lesser station.

We left anyway, or were decieved to go, because we have free will and we were seduced by another with free will.

God cannot follow us here to personally take us home because it would be against our free will.

God provided a means for us to return because of his love for us, and through our own free will we can choose to accept it.

Or not, it is up to you.

Hell was not created, Hell is manifested as a natural opposite to heaven. The universe at our level is duality, and it is what we are forced to deal with now by simple mechanical law. It is because it is.

Now, I'm sure you've heard something like this before, and rejected it for whatever reason. That is you excercising your free will to not be saved, and I'm not interested in arguing against your free will choice. I Have made mine, and I'm happy about it. You go be happy about yours, unless you're not. If not, change it.
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Sounds like we can't have free will? Guilt trippppingggg
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The bible was given to us as instructions, warnings, blessings....of how to live a Godly happy life on Earth and also how to get to Heaven.
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That doesn't alter the fact that at the return 2/3 will die so that ration cannot be changed. What it results in is tow gatherings that happen 1,000 yras apart, one at the beginning of a day to God and the rest just before that day ends.
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No, we are to accept Christ (his son), as a substitute for our sins. What goodness? Even our good deeds are like dirty rags to a holy God.
God cannot protect us, if we reject him, as that indicates to him that we do not wish to know him.
Now, would you force someone to know and love you?
He wants to be absolutely certain of our love, as that is why he created us, because he loves us.
Yes, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, because they decided with their free will to go against God.
Lucifer wanted to be like God, and was able to assemble one third of the angels to mutiny against God. So, he was cast out to ultimately receive punishment for his betrayal.
Yes, he uses Satan to prod men from time to time to test their alleagence to him.
Ultimately, he wants mutual love between him and his creation, but he loves us far more than we could ever love him, so he will not deny us our choice.

Your spouse has a choice not to love you, but if she decides to love you...you know its genuine.
 Quoting: Nobody... 1189609


What kind of an evil motherfucker gives its children free will just so he can sift through us and pick out the ones he likes? He obviously doesnt love all of us if he pre planned to fuck most of us over...
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NOT SCRIPTURE!
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Why "Not Scripture"? 99% of the faith is based on scripture. Impossible to explain or defend absent of scripture.

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell.
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Free will. I guess satan/devil/...whatever you want to call him/her, is walking with us. Or maybe not...haven't thought about it much. I can say this...after 10 years in the Marine Corps, I've seen my share of things to lead me to believe that there is most certainly "evil" in this world. I don't think he/she so much "drags" us to hell...more like a lot of people decide to go down that path of their own free will....there's that thing again, "free will".


God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you.
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We kinda have to believe that the "men" were divinely inspired. We also have to believe that God would not allow men to corrupt the only instrument we have to base our faith on.


God can only save less than 35% of his creations.
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This is the first I've heard of this....I'm Baptist...nowhere in the Bible does it give a number of those that will be/could be saved.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Not 35%...Not 1/4....Not 144,000....WHOEVER.


It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity.
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Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned"

John 3:18,36 - "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already .... He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him".

Acts 16:30-31 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house".

Romans 10:9 "If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved".

Galatains 2:16 - "A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ".

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast".

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost".


But...there's more. Because, if you truly are saved, your actions will reflect it. Pay attention to this next one...it's very important:

Matthew 7: 21-23 - "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

But he loves us all....
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Yes....He does. Amazing isn't it?

Carry on.
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Yeah all of mankind..... besides the people outside of christianity...

I have a hard time believing that same slack ass christian in america will go to heaven while a buddhist monk who dedicates his life to god will burn in hell for eternity...
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No, all of mankind. Christianity is defined by the relationships given in the 7 letters, not all that belong to the Church (ever Gentile alive since about 33AD, Acts:10) will be alive for the 1,000 years, only the ones that qualify for the list in Re:20:4 will be alive for the 1,000 years. What we have made up for religions doesn't mean anything to God, the odds are most 'Christians' will be unrepented on the day of return so their 'ticket' for the 1,000 years is cancelled.
Do you see any Gentile not included in this verse below?

Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
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The devils believe in the Holy Book, The Holy Bible and they tremble. You must believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and shed His Blood for the remission of sins. Without the shedding of blood their is no remission of sins. Salvation is very easy to obtain, you do not have to work for it,
Romans 10

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Yes God loves everyone of us:

John 3
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Here is my quick understanding of the main points of your religion. If i am wrong do not just say that i am an idiot, please back up your response with a logical argument from your own understanding NOT SCRIPTURE!

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell. God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you. God can only save less than 35% of his creations. It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity. But he loves us all....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


The devils believe in the Holy Book, The Holy Bible and they tremble. You must believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and shed His Blood for the remission of sins. Without the shedding of blood their is no remission of sins. Salvation is very easy to obtain, you do not have to work for it,
Romans 10

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Yes God loves everyone of us:

John 3
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No, we are to accept Christ (his son), as a substitute for our sins. What goodness? Even our good deeds are like dirty rags to a holy God.
God cannot protect us, if we reject him, as that indicates to him that we do not wish to know him.
Now, would you force someone to know and love you?
He wants to be absolutely certain of our love, as that is why he created us, because he loves us.
Yes, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, because they decided with their free will to go against God.
Lucifer wanted to be like God, and was able to assemble one third of the angels to mutiny against God. So, he was cast out to ultimately receive punishment for his betrayal.
Yes, he uses Satan to prod men from time to time to test their alleagence to him.
Ultimately, he wants mutual love between him and his creation, but he loves us far more than we could ever love him, so he will not deny us our choice.

Your spouse has a choice not to love you, but if she decides to love you...you know its genuine.
 Quoting: Nobody... 1189609


What kind of an evil motherfucker gives its children free will just so he can sift through us and pick out the ones he likes? He obviously doesnt love all of us if he pre planned to fuck most of us over...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


well... if people are fucking other people over.. why should they go to heaven?

pretty basic really. I don't belive in pre-planning who goes, there isn't any scripture that says that. It simply says those that accept Jesus/God, as their one true God go to heaven. The bible also mentions those that haven't heard the word of God to go to heaven too. It also talks about those that are aware of God's word, but don't adhere to it to endure God's judgement..
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God is All Powerful
God is All Loving and
God Is All Just

If we turn from God, we are deceived by the evil one, satan, We remove the Grace of God from our lives. God does not wish to lose anybody and He is going to bring The Warning. We all will see ourselves where we would belong if it was our judgement. This is God's Mercy. When this happens, ask Jesus for mercy and He will give it to you


Two comets will collide, My cross will appear in a red sky
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My dearly beloved daughter time is near. The Warning is close now. It is with great sorrow that I must tell you that many souls will not heed these messages about The Warning. My word falls on deaf ears. Why won’t they listen? I am not only giving them My great gift of Mercy when I will shower My graces over the whole world, I am also trying to prepare them for this event. Many millions of sinners will rejoice when they are shown My great mercy. Others won’t get a chance to redeem them selves in time because they will die of shock.

My daughter you must do everything you can to warn the world. Because this great event will shock everyone. They will see great signs in the skies before The Warning takes place. Stars will clash with such impact that man will confuse the spectacle they see in the sky as being catastrophic. As these comets infuse a great red sky will result and the sign of my cross will be seen all over the world by everyone. Many will be frightened. But I say rejoice for you will see, for the first time in your lives, a truly Divine Sign that represents great news for sinners everywhere.


See My cross then and you will know that My great mercy is being given to each of you, My precious children. For it was with the deep abiding love that I held for you that I died, willingly, on the cross to save you. When you see the crosses in the sky during The Warning you will know that this is a sign of My love for you.

Pray My beloved followers that your brothers and sisters can rejoice when they, too, are shown the proof of My existence. Pray that they will accept that this is their chance to redeem themselves in My eyes. That this great act of Mercy will save their souls if they will allow Me to help them.

You will be shown what it is like to die in mortal sin

The Warning will be a purifying experience for all of you. It may be unpleasant in part especially for those in grave sin. Because for the first time ever you will be shown what it feels like when the light of God disappears from your life. Your souls will feel the abandonment felt by those who die in mortal sin. These poor souls who left it too late to ask God to forgive them their sins. Remember it is important that I allow all of you to feel this emptiness of soul. For only then will you finally understand that without the light of God in your souls you cease to feel. Your soul and body would be just empty vessels. Even sinners feel the light of God because he is present in every one of his children on earth. But when you die in mortal sin, this light no longer exists.

Prepare now for this great event. Save your souls while you can. For it will only be when the light of God leaves you that you will finally realise the empty, barren and darkness that Satan offers which is full of anguish and terror.

Replenish your souls. Rejoice now for The Warning will save you and bring you closer to My Sacred Heart.

Welcome the Warning. For then you will be given the proof of Eternal Life and know how important it is.

Your Beloved Saviour

Jesus Christ

King of Mankind

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Why is that any different?
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Satan wouldn't have been able to deceive Adam. Adam ate because husband and wife are one flesh rather than him wanting to be like God. BTW Adam did die the same day as before the exodus time was under the 1,000 years for a day so 930 years was 70 years short of being more than 1 day.
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NOT SCRIPTURE!
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Why "Not Scripture"? 99% of the faith is based on scripture. Impossible to explain or defend absent of scripture.

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell.
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Free will. I guess satan/devil/...whatever you want to call him/her, is walking with us. Or maybe not...haven't thought about it much. I can say this...after 10 years in the Marine Corps, I've seen my share of things to lead me to believe that there is most certainly "evil" in this world. I don't think he/she so much "drags" us to hell...more like a lot of people decide to go down that path of their own free will....there's that thing again, "free will".


God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you.
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We kinda have to believe that the "men" were divinely inspired. We also have to believe that God would not allow men to corrupt the only instrument we have to base our faith on.


God can only save less than 35% of his creations.
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This is the first I've heard of this....I'm Baptist...nowhere in the Bible does it give a number of those that will be/could be saved.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Not 35%...Not 1/4....Not 144,000....WHOEVER.


It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity.
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Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned"

John 3:18,36 - "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already .... He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him".

Acts 16:30-31 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house".

Romans 10:9 "If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved".

Galatains 2:16 - "A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ".

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast".

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost".


But...there's more. Because, if you truly are saved, your actions will reflect it. Pay attention to this next one...it's very important:

Matthew 7: 21-23 - "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

But he loves us all....
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Yes....He does. Amazing isn't it?

Carry on.
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So god gives us free will but sends us to hell if we make the wrong choices? He puts those choices in front of us on purpose and allows satan to rule over this world. He offers no help besides dying on a cross and whispering words into a few mens ears.

What kind of an asshole gives his children free will with the possibility of two destinations. One being eternal love and the other being eternal hate, torture and fear?

This whole religion is sheep control by TPTB yet you sheep cant realize it no matter what.
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No, we are to accept Christ (his son), as a substitute for our sins. What goodness? Even our good deeds are like dirty rags to a holy God.
God cannot protect us, if we reject him, as that indicates to him that we do not wish to know him.
Now, would you force someone to know and love you?
He wants to be absolutely certain of our love, as that is why he created us, because he loves us.
Yes, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven, because they decided with their free will to go against God.
Lucifer wanted to be like God, and was able to assemble one third of the angels to mutiny against God. So, he was cast out to ultimately receive punishment for his betrayal.
Yes, he uses Satan to prod men from time to time to test their alleagence to him.
Ultimately, he wants mutual love between him and his creation, but he loves us far more than we could ever love him, so he will not deny us our choice.

Your spouse has a choice not to love you, but if she decides to love you...you know its genuine.
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What kind of an evil motherfucker gives its children free will just so he can sift through us and pick out the ones he likes? He obviously doesnt love all of us if he pre planned to fuck most of us over...
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well... if people are fucking other people over.. why should they go to heaven?

pretty basic really. I don't belive in pre-planning who goes, there isn't any scripture that says that. It simply says those that accept Jesus/God, as their one true God go to heaven. The bible also mentions those that haven't heard the word of God to go to heaven too. It also talks about those that are aware of God's word, but don't adhere to it to endure God's judgement..
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So you are saying ghandi and buddhist monks are fucking people over?

I welcome gods judgement for i am a good person and have nothing to fear...
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Actually, regardless of how 'good' a person you are, you're still a sinner and deserve hell, like we all do. Or are you saying you are above sin? If not, then you can repent and turn away from those sins, and have faith in Jesus. The real question is, why do you continue to doubt Jesus, when all recorded history and prophecy points to only him? You think muhammed is a btter candidate, or are you just a believer in the puddle of slime?
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Sounds like we can't have free will? Guilt trippppingggg
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If 1/3 are left alive and 2/3 destined for hell for the 1,000 years free will is removed, just like it was removed from Pharoah when God hardened his heart so all the plagues would happen. The time of free will is when the ones resurrected to life at the GWT are offered a drink of living water, even then the deck is stacked so only one answer would be chosen.
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NOT SCRIPTURE!
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Why "Not Scripture"? 99% of the faith is based on scripture. Impossible to explain or defend absent of scripture.

God loves us. God banishes Satan to live on the same planet as us and gives him the ability to corrupt us and drag us to hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


Free will. I guess satan/devil/...whatever you want to call him/her, is walking with us. Or maybe not...haven't thought about it much. I can say this...after 10 years in the Marine Corps, I've seen my share of things to lead me to believe that there is most certainly "evil" in this world. I don't think he/she so much "drags" us to hell...more like a lot of people decide to go down that path of their own free will....there's that thing again, "free will".


God sacrifices himself so that if you believe in him and do what it says in a book that was written by men you will be spared and satan will not get you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


We kinda have to believe that the "men" were divinely inspired. We also have to believe that God would not allow men to corrupt the only instrument we have to base our faith on.


God can only save less than 35% of his creations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


This is the first I've heard of this....I'm Baptist...nowhere in the Bible does it give a number of those that will be/could be saved.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Not 35%...Not 1/4....Not 144,000....WHOEVER.


It doesnt matter how good of a person you are, if you dont believe in the holy book, you will burn in hell for eternity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned"

John 3:18,36 - "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already .... He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him".

Acts 16:30-31 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house".

Romans 10:9 "If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved".

Galatains 2:16 - "A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ".

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast".

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost".


But...there's more. Because, if you truly are saved, your actions will reflect it. Pay attention to this next one...it's very important:

Matthew 7: 21-23 - "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

But he loves us all....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699


Yes....He does. Amazing isn't it?

Carry on.
 Quoting: salty1


So god gives us free will but sends us to hell if we make the wrong choices? He puts those choices in front of us on purpose and allows satan to rule over this world. He offers no help besides dying on a cross and whispering words into a few mens ears.

What kind of an asshole gives his children free will with the possibility of two destinations. One being eternal love and the other being eternal hate, torture and fear?

This whole religion is sheep control by TPTB yet you sheep cant realize it no matter what.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992699



As with threads like this and people like you,
Your true motive is to blaspheme God, for your heart is full of hate against Him.

What is the point of making a thread like this if you only attempt to be angry with God and blaspheme Him?

Do you not understand that everytime you do this your sins are counted against YOU? That you are given over to the dark heart that is inside of you?

You grow deeper and deeper into despair for you have rejected hope and soon you will not be able to recognize it, even if it was in front of your face.

Is it not like that now?

How can you ever turn away from your sin, when sin has consumed you and your heart within?

First YOU MUST BE WILLING TO LET GOD IN.
First YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ADMIT YOUR SINS TO JESUS CHRIST AND ASK FORGIVENESS.

If you are not willing, there is no point in telling you any of this is there?

For you have chosen your own road to damnation and eternal punishment in hell.

In Jesus Christ.
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Actually, regardless of how 'good' a person you are, you're still a sinner and deserve hell, like we all do. Or are you saying you are above sin? If not, then you can repent and turn away from those sins, and have faith in Jesus. The real question is, why do you continue to doubt Jesus, when all recorded history and prophecy points to only him? You think muhammed is a btter candidate, or are you just a believer in the puddle of slime?
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No... i love christ. I also love buddha, krishna and horus for they shared the same consciousness. These were being on earth who had complete acces to the akashic records. Christ tried to liberate us from the bloodline that ruled over humanity and still does today but they killed him off and turned him into a god that they could control and manipulate through stories. Wake up.

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